You have to hand it to Michael Lewis. At least he doesn’t try to cover up by calling it “expansion” or “prosperity” or “getting at cause.” He just comes right out and announces it is all about money.
The Scrooge McDuck image I guess is how he sees the successful person in scientology. Someone with enough money to be able to afford it (which is accurate) — or else it’s an artist’s rendition of David Miscavige doing what he loves most.
He idiotically claims that he “thought people had somehow outgrown this subject.” If you are a scientologist, it is impossible to “outgrow” this subject as you are being constantly harangued to pay for more services, buy more books, donate to the IAS, Ideal Orgs, CCHR, WTH, Applied Scholastics, Drug Free World, Youth for Human Rights and to keep the lights on in your local org or mission. It literally never ends. It’s a hallmark of scientologists to always be needing more money to meet the demands — and with the exception of Bob Duggan and a few other whales — they never have enough.
Scientology claims the word means “The science of knowing how to know.” A more accurate definition would be “The science of getting money out of marks.”
Roger Larsson says
Money, money and money is funny in a rich mans world. Abba. If money hadn’t existed sacks of wheat had existed in trade. We are all living in a time of when sacks of wheat aren’t needed only money. Money compared with sacks of wheat weight nothing but the value is the same.
jere Lull (40 years recovering) says
I suspect he was trying to JOKE with the “Money, Money, MONEY” but accidently told the TRUTH of the matter. Money is at the center of their operations; and scrooge McDuck couldn’t be a more suitable mascot for them.
You know … I don’t think you should use words like “Mantra” because most of the unfortunates who are still in that cult would have never heard of that word before. I would guess they may think it is some kind of Pagan Wog sexual thing.
Oh wait! They would not have heard the word “Pagan” before.
Shit! My bad!
I’m feeling kind of giddy these days – what with the return of Mike and Leah to the public airwaves and informing the general public just how big a mistake it would be for anyone to take any kind of offer from these slave masters.
I wonder if they will soon change the name of their scam so that people who are a little informed could be suckered into falling for their bullshit. Maybe they might change the name to, “The Children of Love & Happiness”? That would sound pretty harmless.
But, maybe they should stick something about money in the name. Like fer instance, “The Children of Infinite Wealth and Prosperity.”?
Oh, fuck! Maybe I best shuddup before I give them any ideas they can use.
In all seriousness however, I got this feeling that the end of that piece of POOP is coming sooner than anyone might think possible. I certainly hope so, in any case. There is a penitentiary cell available with his name on it – actually – there two adjacent cells. Both have signs saying …
“RESERVED FOR MR. D.M.”
It is unclear just who will get which cell.
This flyer with a infantile cartoon figure diving into a bed of coins and cash which Michael Lewis is using to entice people to his seminar reminded me once more that Scientology is, among other things, embarrassing.
Now, I know I’ve said this before and I don’t want to beat it to death and in so doing bore you all to death, but the truth is that Scientology has never not embarrassed me. And after 25 years in and 8 years out, I still get embarrassed. I still cringe, looking at some of the things Mike posts, and remembering some things.
Here’s a list of what (and who) embarrasses and has always embarrassed me, not necessarily in sequence or order of importance but just off the top of my head:
* Today’s flyer.
* Flyers of Org Fundraising events showing pictures of food.
* Flyers of Org Fundraising events showing Scientologists dressed as chickens, cowboys, pirates, etc.
* Tom Cummins – his huge fake white teeth + stupid foul mouth
* Kirstie Alley – let me count the ways.
* Danny Masterson – self explanatory.
* Reed Slatkin
* Jay Spina
* Mappin (the owner of Tintagel Castle, forgot his first name) – his obliviousness to all the awful feedback he gets about his hotel AND how he argues with and insults anyone who criticizes his hotel! Amazing and embarrassing!
* Tom Cruise “mocking up” great enthusiasm as re his love for Katie Holmes via OPrah’s couch.
* Standing and clapping at LRH’s portrait in the Courseroom after class. Not that I didn’t want to acknowledge LRH but I would have preferred to do so privately in my thoughts when I was inclined to do so.
* All the photos of LRH throughout my org.
* The bust of LRH in the entrance of my org.
* Sea Org uniforms
* Sea Org members wearing Sea Org uniforms.
* For years, the unclean, slummy looking bathrooms in the orgs.
* Some of my fellow Scientologists who bragged about declaring bankruptcy.
* A few of my fellow Scientologists who fancied themselves singers, who weren’t.
* Having to applaud them when they’d perform and were just awful…which reminds me:
* Joy Villas & Stacy Francis neither of whom I ever had the misfortune to listen to in person, but…oh… God, give me strength.
* Having to always shout, “Hooray!” when someone shouted “Hip hip”. SO hokey.
* The poor grammar and semi-literacy of many Scientologists who were American born and not ESL
* The attitude of the Scientologists I knew who were financially irresponsible and proud of it.
* Ditto those who declared bankruptcy and bragged about it.
* The attitude of Scientologists I knew who were ignorant and and untrained for any profession or line of work, and proud of it.
* Ditto the youngsters who bragged about being high school drop outs.
* Their lack of embarrassment at having so many moonlighting jobs.
* Their lack of embarrassment at the shiftless way they lived, some of them, job to job, crash pad to crash pad, long after youth was gone and the hippie era was over.
* Being asked by fellow Scientologists for loans in order to buy something by Thursday at 2PM. I knew the pressure, but it was embarrassing, mostly because they were not embarrassed! I would have died asking a mere acquaintance to lend me money!
* Going up to strangers on the street when doing course drills outside.
* Selling books on the street or in malls.
* The bright red booksale tablecloth. What can I tell you; it made me cringe.
* Approaching people and asking them if they wanted a stress test and having them look away and not even answer me.
* Desperately trying to find their “ruin”.
* Finding their ruin and then pushing them to buy DMSMH.
* When we were selling books, people rushing by and slitting their eyes at us.
* Events. Just about everything connected to events embarrassed me.
* In particular, the cartoon-like graphs, visuals and sound effects at events.
* In particular, being required to constantly stand up and applaud.
* When the refreshments were served, the way most rushed the buffet table and crowded around it instead of forming a line to serve themselves and be served.
* The way many of them would eat, like it was their last hot meal.
* That many staff, Sea Org and Public Scientologists smoked and thought it fine, as if they were living in the 50’s & 60s instead of the 80s and 90s.
* THE BIRTHDAY GAME…just the whole concept was embarrassing, besides engendering other undesirable emotions.
* That this organization called itself a “church”. I would have MUCH preferred that it not be a church.
I’m running out of things for now. I’m sure I have more. Some of the items I’ve listed make me sound like a superficial snob and/or a total introvert. So be it. I’m leaving them in. I am what I am. I feel better after naming these things. I’m sure I’ll think of more. If you think of anything, feel free to add to the list 🙂
Same here Aqua. It ALWAYS embarrassed me. THAT should have been THE sign…
Thanks, Wyn. But I just thought of the most embarrassing aspect of all, the worst embarrassment of all, namely:
My own pretenses.
For years and years, my own pretenses of approval, of being totally OK with things that I wasn’t Ok at all with.
I pretended constantly about so many things. Pretended with so many people. I was under a self compulsion to pretend – to myself and to others.
And that isn’t my nature. I mean, I’m not an unkind, tactless idiot. I know what manners are. I know how to get along with others and not hurt their feelings unnecessarily, etc.
But pretending all the time is embarrassing and disgusting and unhealthy and that’s what I did, all the time, and when I remember how I constantly pretended, I cringe at myse
Back then there was always a double-cringe; first in the objective sense, and and then, subjectively, at myself, at my own false response, my own fake approval and phoniness stemming from – I don’t know – fear, I suppose.
When I recall how I went along with things that turned me off, how I pretended, and was false to myself for so many years, my embarrassment is deeper and more serious than anything I witnessed externally in the cult.
Yes Aqua, true. . Guilty here too. Lots to recognize and realize…
Loosing my Religion says
Aqua. Good comment indeed. Reading it I felt that embarrassing sensation on most of the points. Because I had to do those things (but feeling a sheep) or even worst I got others to do it.
Nice job Aqua. A few more come to mind:
*The Frazetta Paintings …… all of em.
*Mission Earth …… all of em.
*Battlefield Earth – the Movie ………..all of it.
*Dave (the dildo) Miscavige ….. everything about him but especially His MOUTH.
*Author services and the great titanium disc project
*Bracelets – all of em!
Ha ha! Excellent! Each MUCHO embarrassing indeed.
And, wow, reading yours just made me remember another one, a BIG one:
* The Eye A Ass..I mean Ess 🙂
Can’t believe it didn’t top the list. Too much embarrassment to confront, maybe? Have to build up to it on a gradient 🙂
Yep, It should have topped the list although TC on Ophra is also right up there too.
So much of an embarrasment $cientology is.
Except for you good buddy, You definitely top that list. And here is your standard listing question of the day:
“Who or What is the most embarrassing aspect of $cientology?” Get a good auditor Dave cause its a fricking loooooong list! It’ll require hours in the chair and many new cans to replace all the crushed ones. I suggest copper rods …….. weld em on yer nads ….. good buddy. When it’s over there is only one reading item. Wonder Who?
:), Newcomer. I wish we could get a collection of your “Yo Dave” messages over to Him. I’m thinking that some day the Ideal Punishment of Him would be to hold an Event with Him strapped in a chair on a stage in front of a large live audience. There’d be a voice on a microphone reading all the “Yo”s with everybody laughing. A loooong Event with excellent refreshments and regular, comfortable intermissions for us. But not for Him. He would have to remain in his little chair the whole time. Well, maybe we’d give him a little water. And a Port au Potty.
Ms. B. Haven says
Nice list Aqua but it ‘restimulated’ the shit out of me. I have a lot to add to it, and I’m sure others have even more to include. I also have to admit that even to this day I’m embarrassed to even hear the word scientology mentioned amongst acquaintances. I just don’t want to bother with having to explain my stupidity and gullibility for getting involved and even worse staying involved when all of the items you mentioned above were so glaringly obvious and staring me right in the face.
I’m sorry I restimulated you, Ms. B. Go for a walk, and please forgive me 🙂
Seriously though, I’ll share with you that shortly after writing that long list out I realized that EVERYTHING in Scientology ALWAYS embarrassed me except for two things: my auditing and my courses.
Amazing huh? I liked my auditing, pre-GAT. It helped me. And I ran out of money when GAT appeared. Lucky me, right? I wasn’t subjected to the gruesome 3-swing FN torture. When I managed to save enough again for auditing the IAS vultures and the Ideal Morgue vultures descended and cleaned me out, pretty much. So all my auditing was pre-Gat l in the mid-90s. I liked it. I wanted more, but it was not to be.
I liked my courses too, in the Academy. They helped me.
I realized last night that all I EVER wanted from Scientology was auditing (again, pre-GAT I, and due to simple twists of fate I never made it to Flag thank God) and my course and my courses.
Auditing and training did not embarrass me. If I could have just gone into my org and been audited and or trained I would have been happy.
And, (deep breath) if there hadn’t been all those other THINGS – and if there had been no fucking BIRTHDAY GAME – if I could have just been audited and trained and done courses etc. at my own pace without extreme pressure and without having to deal with all the other stupid shit, the likelihood is high that I would still be a Scientologist, because I liked the auditing I got and the courses I did – and that’s ALL I liked.
That’s what I realized last night along with the coincidental fact that Hubbard has a policy letter somewhere stating that “Orgs are auditing and training factories”.
Someone might want to tell David Miscavige. I don’t think he’s aware of this 🙂
Jane Doe 2 says
Aqua, Be glad you didn’t make it to Flag, the Mecca of Perfection. It is the mecca of crush sell regging. Where did you make it to on the processing side of the Bridge?
I think the Freakwinds might top Flog Jane. Sharron the Web keeps Teddy Bragin on a tight leash to be the final hammer for Oh Tea Ates. Wanna git off the ship? It’s gonna cost you. Make a dono or buy a couple hundred hours of sec checking to find the why!
And that is WHY the place is empty.
Figured it out yet? I recommend selling it fer scrap and head to Columbia with yer Captain. Screw Dave.
Oh, you already have? Oops!
Good comment Coop. I think you win–the Ship is the ultimate nightmare experience. You can’t hide from registrars on the ship cuz you’re out at sea and can’t swim. There’s no getting away from them. And I hope also that Sharon escapes to Columbia. Then she can see and experience for herself whether the Way to Happiness booklets dropped there actually lowered the huge crime and drug rate. Ha! See the fruits of your labor, Sharon, live in the safest place on earth in Columbia!!!
Oh, indeed I am glad! Ironically, for years I considered my inability, for one reason or another to make it to Flag a “failed purpose”. Today its high on my gratitude list.
Yes, count your blessings. I am grateful that I never did OT VIII on the Ship.
Another OT VIII just died of cancer, Divona Lewis, RIP.
“What is the one thing about money you should always and continually do?”
GIVE IT TO US YOU MINDLESS SHEEP. YOU HAVE NO IDEA HOW TO HANDLE OUR…YOUR CASH, SO JUST GIVE IT ALL TO US AND BE THANKFUL. PRAISE BE TO COB.
On a side-note:
Largely Rotted Hulkard gets, in a roundabout way, gets a mention in a Russian SF film called Coma. Some of the acting isn’t great but overall I rather enjoyed it and reckon it’s worth a look.
I read a lot of posts and don’t comment because either someone else has said what I would better, the OP says what I would better or I don’t know enough about the topic to form an educated opinion.
The image of Scrooge McDuck diving in gold coins fits the mindset of the Grant Cardones of the world so well, I think it should be a part of standard tech!
It is tragicomic how greed and selfishness based Scientology is while telling the slaves er staff and Sea Org members it is all about spiritual freedom.
It is the ultimate bait and switch, clearing bank accounts -about the most materialistic thing imaginable – while selling the counterfeit dream (to quote Jefferson Hawkins) of some future spiritual utopia that ain’t never gonna happen.
When you finally wake up from the euphoria based diminished independent and critical thinking that Scientology induces and realize it took your money, youth, family, friends and hopes and dreams and left you with trauma and CPTSD you know Scientology got the gold mine and you got the shaft, or as the kids say, “you is ass out.” Meaning your ass ran out of luck.is
And that is if you are lucky enough to wake up from the euphoria based dream and face reality.
Jens TINGLEFF says
“Mary Sue, who was the course supervisor, also held out the prospect of material rewards: ‘I want you to make money. If any one of you cannot conceive of an auditor driving around in a gold-plated Cadillac or Rolls you had better reorientate yourselves. I like the idea.”
HCO News Letter, 7 May 1962
Well he is up front about it. Lol. I can’t believe anyone goes. The must know they can’t walk out unless they pay. Mortgage your house again! Spend your IRA! It’s all positive postulates. Like nobody ever works for money. Ugh.
The CO$ does not know how to make “Positive Postulates” work, otherwise they wouldn’t be so obsessed shaking down your own money tree. According to the CO$, you can make things go right … they can’t, so they have to leach off your “Positive Postulates”.
Todd Cray says
Fooled me! After reading it I sincerely thought this poster was a parody. Something that RB had come up with.
Then I read your comments and it turns out…
OMG! I almost always start my day by checking this one news site called, “The Drudge Report”. I have no idea how many people here may have heard of it before. Many people don’t like it because they think it is too far to the “right”. But I like it because everything is so short. All their stories are shown in one line headlines and that makes it quick and easy for me to see what is going on in the world.
Well, imagine my surprise today when the first name I saw was “Leah Remini”. The headline was, “Leah Remini Wants to Expose Tom Cruise Dark Side…”.
For those of you who may be interested, I will post a link so you can read the story if you like.
I haven’t read it yet. I wanted to post it here right away so that you all could see it first.
But it sure does sound kind of tantalizing. I have always wondered just what Tom Cruise had been up to before he appeared on that episode of Oprah.
It reminds me of a funny line that goes like this, “For the longest time, I have been trying to drown my sorrows with alcohol. But the fuckers learned how to swim. So what do I do now?”
I think the phrase “I had thought people had somehow outgrown this subject” — i.e., money — is a subtle and perhaps passive-aggressive dig at his audience.
The use of the word “outgrown” is significant and powerful.
To me it feels like the message is that his audience should have outgrown the subject of money by now and moved on to more spiritual concerns.
Given the above, the introduction of “I am delighted to let you know…” may or may not be sarcastic.
I think the new definition of Scientology is dead on. “The Science Of Getting Money Out Of Marks”.
Mark has two meanings.
John McMaster says
It should also be the true OT8 cognition. Said after you leave the ship so they don’t kidnap you.
Golden Era Parachute says
Trace the money, and you will find the source of inflow into Scientology. That is probably the most dangerous statement I’ve ever written about Scientology. Mike knows all about the whales, but I do not recall hearing about the numerous Scientology businesses.
Leah Remini talks a bit about working for one of the companies in her book, and everyone knows the infamous EarthLink. What about ABC Mouse and the WISE network? What about the hundreds of state-listed drug abuse clinics?
If you really wanted to find out what props up Scientology, you would start by compiling a list of all Scientology run businesses.
Leah is my hero! No doubt about that. What a brave lady! I will love her until my dying day because she said,
“You picked the wrong fucking girl!”
Wasn’t that just divine? What a lady! Super Lady! For sure!
Loosing my Religion says
Skyler. Just two words: Absolutely correct!
Zee Moo says
I don’t see how anyone, with the exception of Tom Cummins and the Dugans can afford to be Clams. Structurally, the pyramid is an incredibly stable edifice, but a pyramid scheme is the opposite. How many upper levels can vampire off on a shrinking base? We are watching that shrink in real time and the pyramid is actually shaped like a pole these days. A pole that could blow over in a strong wind.
So I’ll huff, and I’ll puff and I’ll blow the whole rotten thing down.
Old Surfer Dude says
The science of getting money out of marks. What about Bobs & Garys & Roberts. They want to be fleeced too! Don’t leave them out! Do I have to do everything???
Sadly the answer is YES!
Catch the wave dude and enjoy the ride!
Old Surfer Dude says
Every wave is a blessing!
It’s come a long way from a HASI membership and payment for ACTUAL services. Now it’s little more than a total donation racket, a waste of time and colossal irritation even if you like SCN.
Totally spot on description of the cult today. Totally!
Well said Foremost. So true.
Formost, wasn’t payment always really for IMAGINARY “services,” anyway? Other than maybe the communication course and a bit of basic book one auditing, that might produce some real improvements (largely because they plagiarize earlier, effective psychological techniques) – which can still be done for just a couple hundred dollars on a free 6-month IAS membership.
Further up the “bridge” it’s mostly ILLUSIONS like auditing to produce false memories of early infancy or supposedly being in the womb, and imagined past lives – the sort of messing with the mind that when it goes wrong makes people get worse or even go psychotic (which I think is why Miscavige clamped down after Lisa McPherson’s breakdown and death).
They now say something like that donations can produce as much case gain or bridge process as other “services.” But what if they’re actually right – and just unintentially revealing the ruse? If it’s all just placebo effect and feelgood, a rah-rah event with a rush of adulation on stage and maybe a big trophy could in fact result in more or less the same effects as auditing BTs or reading about Piltdown Man in History of Man.
I’ll argue that Miscavige has simply refined the practice of Hubbard’s principles, in part due to changed circumstances in the real world that make recruiting for a dated pseudo-science nearly impossible (and relying on high turnover impractical): invent or modify “tech” in order to try to explain away consistent failures and to keep followers interested in the “latest and greatest”, ruthlessly maintain the loyalty of members through whatever means necessary like ramped-up use of disconnection (as it says in KSW, “You’re here so you’re a Scientologist….We’d rather have you dead”), and make money (which Hubbard followed up with “make more money”).
Here’s a bit more background on the power of the placebo effect, for anyone interested – and recent research into pseudo-science like homeopathy, is showing that its effects are heightened further when combined with social reinforcement (such as an auditor, or the community environment of an org – or a fundraising event – provides):
Foremost, no scamology “service” was anything but a con. In FACT, it was worse than just donating. It ate your money AND your time. Sitting studying useless drivel or sitting holding onto a Wheatstone bridge
I’ve been running that “scamology “service” for better than 6 years Solo, and if it were a con, I wouldn’t put another hour in. What YOU say matters not, what I deem a benefit to ME … is all that matters. Go suppress a rock.
We have a rubber room case here. Formost, seek REAL mental help. Before you die of some disease. BTW, let us know when you become cause over all life. LMAO!
Just about every Psycho will suggest mental help for anyone receiving benefits from religious/spiritual/self-improvement practices … which better than 70% of the population of this planet is involved in. According to Dr. Wynsky, 5 billion people need to be placed in rubber rooms.
Are you oblivious to the fact that better than 50% of the posts you make around here are little more than “Ad Hominem” putdowns of others? Nothing like some Psycho giving pretentious authoritarian advice on religious/spiritual/self-improvement practices. If anyone ever had any remaining doubt what a true NCG is, your posts are perfect examples.
Wow you ARE insane Formost. There are not 5 billion people in scamology.
Don’t worry, every time you try to lie about the dangerous cult, its founder and the insane brainwashing I’ll be there to correctly label you as mentally deficient. and or criminal.
WOW, are you ever stupid and illiterate. My post clearly referred to 5 billion people on this planet involved in religious/spiritual/self-improvement practices.
The LIES, mental deficiencies and criminalities are all yours if you are trying to suggest I do not get benefits from Scientology auditing. I never claimed SCN is not a dangerous cult, so stop fabricating horseshit. I DO NOT AUDIT IN THE CULT, I’ve nothing to do with them, or their insane brainwashing.
To your credit, I’ve seen much dumber trolls on Christian blogs.
I know that. I replied thusly because you, as most scamologists do when cornered and losing an argument resort to the Straw man logical fallacy.
In this case you changed the argument from scientologists to ALL people involved in ANY religion on the planet. Typical criminal behavior, using that logical fallacy.
Do not forget you need several intensives if you had a critical thought (NOT action) about the leaders of the Church.
Your Sec Check will be veeeeryyy long and veeeery expensive.
Loosing my Religion says
When I was still in these events wouldn’t tell the person how to make real money?? No! Because nobody would give you the trick for free how to make real money.
There would be some hubbard quote here and there about money etc but then would be turned on the person attitude about money. Wrong thinking, must – have, what is really money all about and the person’s mental associations. Few cognitions and the guy knows is just his condition. But now he is ‘positive’ and can be taken in reg interview because is less resistive.
But the money he will ‘magically’ find are what he needs but it is gonna give them to the cult. Ironic isn’t?
Joe Pendleton says
By the way, when Michael Lewis had the nerve to do a Second Dynamic webinar, did he cover how-to successfully raise children?
Michael telling others how to make lots of money is a joke. HE was a trust-fund baby when he married. That meant that his money didn’t come from his own production; it came from his dad in a trust fund he set up for him. Then decades later the rich dad died and Michael inherited a ton of money from his dad. Again, he may be rich now, but it wasn’t off his own production. Plus he is probably also getting royalties from his dead son’s acting career, plus whatever FSM commissions his wife earns.
Joe Pendleton says
In case you missed the webinar …
Three things about money you should NEVER ever do …
1. Deposit your savings in the National Bank of Afghanistan
2. Use it to buy those hideous Battlefield Earth posters
3. Tell the full truth to a reg about your savings account, IRA or credit cards
What is the one thing about money you should always do?
*Make sure you still have all of it when you get the hell out of California and Florida (and leave the CoS no forwarding address)
#3 reminds me how I once confessed in session that I had withheld from my Reg that I had hundreds of thousands hidden away.
After session another Reg came up to me asking for money for the IAS or something. I told them I had donated everything already I had so couldn’t help them out. The Reg stared me straight in the eye and said “oh come on, I know if you looked hard enough you could find it”. I had heard about the “look in system” used at Flag that records every session. I have actually seen it. The reg had obviously watched the session just ended and came grazing for $$$$.
I left a few months later.
TT Greco says
Just to clarify the above, No Reg would ever watch nor be allowed to watch a video recording of a session or a live session. Some technical personnel would and then tip the reg
Loosing my Religion says
“Now that ain’t workin’ that’s the way you do it
You play the guitar on the MTV
That ain’t workin’ that’s the way you do it
Money for nothin’ and your chicks for free
Money for nothin’ and chicks for free
Money for nothing”
I would feel ashamed being part of this ‘money fixed idea’ crap.
No new members since long time. This is now turning into cannibalism!
Komodo Dragon says
“This is now turning into cannibalism”… I would actually, well possibly, feel bad for the cherch member that has to eat the flesh of the Drawfentroll. I am guessing his flesh would taste of evil with a Scotch aftertaste.
Loosing my Religion says
Yes, but he must be put a few days to marinate in the scotch to be ready to be cooked”.
I could comment on this, but it would require obscene language.
Old Surfer Dude says
I say go for it!!! Obscene Language. BTW, Obscene Language is the name of a rock band.
Off subject OSD but, my husband’s favorite band name is Back Yard Tire Fire. Love that one!
Old Surfer Dude says
What a great name!!! I love it too!!!
LOL 🙂 Don’t hold back… 😉
jere Lull (40 years recovering) says
Otherles, you can’t really get more obscene language than is used routinely within the subject of scientology, what with Hubbard’s uncensored opinions of people not enslaved by his techniques OR about sub- Africans, or Chinese, or any other non-Caucasian peoples. I wonder what he thought of the Irish, or scots, or British…. No need, they were at BEST “wogs” to his method of “thinking”. Any who rejected his teachings, or hadn’t yet become TRUE believers were labeled SP on the flimsiest of evidence and summarily destroyed utterly.