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Scientology’s Disdain for Law Enforcement

March 15, 2023 By Mike Rinder 5 Comments

This is an earlier post I am updating, along with a new YouTube video today.

In the wake of the Danny Masterson rape trial (soon to be retried after the jury ended up hung), many are curious about scientology’s position with respect to reporting crimes to law enforcement.

Scientology responded to reports they forbid this in typical fashion — quoting the LA Times:

The Church of Scientology declined to comment on the pending criminal matter, but said the religion has no policy against reporting crimes committed by Scientologists to law enforcement.

“Church policy explicitly demands Scientologists abide by all laws of the land,” spokeswoman Karin Pouw said.

Though most people reject scientology’s denials about disconnection, breaking up families, abusing people etc etc and thus reject this lie, one has to have an understanding of scientology and the words of L. Ron Hubbard to understand what scientologists believe and how they act.

The first thing to know is that what L. Ron Hubbard says is to be taken literally and followed to the letter by all scientologists. His words are not parables and are not to be interpreted or used as mere guidelines. They are specific instructions on what to do. In scientology, one follows the words of Hubbard EXACTLY.  Scientologists believe that if they are not followed precisely they do not work. But they work “100% of the time” when implemented exactly. His words are denominated “the technology.”

Let’s begin with the first Hubbard quotes, taken from the list of Misdemeanors, Crimes and High Crimes that he lays out in his scientology “justice system.” The “Justice System” is one the component “technologies” of scientology.

In the book Introduction to Scientology Ethics, the “bible” of scientology “ethics and justice technology,” Hubbard lists the following as High Crimes (there are hundreds of transgressions listed in the book, High Crimes are the very worst category that can result in being excommunicated from scientology):

Delivering up the person of a Scientologist without defense or protest to the demands of civil or criminal law.

Reporting or threatening to report Scientology or Scientologists to civil authorities in an effort to suppress Scientology or Scientologists from practicing or receiving standard Scientology.

Public statements against Scientology or Scientologists but not to Committees of Evidence duly convened.

Bringing civil suit against any Scientology Organization or Scientologist including the non-payment of bills or failure to refund without first calling the matter to the attention
of the International Justice Chief and receiving a reply.

As I have said, these things are to be read and followed exactly. The plain language leaves no room for doubt. Though scientology claims it “has no policy against reporting crimes,” these words from Hubbard make clear it is exactly what they demand from their members. Of course, if challenged they will claim “this is how we interpret the language” and know that no court can second guess their “interpretation.”

There is a second element to what scientologists believe based on the words of Hubbard: indoctrination into the worldview of Hubbard.

He had a very low opinion of everything outside the scientology bubble. He coined a term for it; the “wog” world. Wogs are non-scientologists and it is a derogatory term widely used in scientology.

Hubbard claimed that ONLY scientology, only his “technology,” could save mankind. He reserved some of his harshest criticism for “wog” law enforcement and courts. In fact, the last chapter of his ethics book is titled “A New Hope for Justice” and it expresses his utter contempt for all things outside the scientology “justice system.”

Here are a few choice quotes:

As they themselves are contaminated by their criminal associates, the police and court systems are, in the main, composed of downstats who couldn’t make it in life any other way.

Societies traditionally cave in through their police and justice systems, since these provide a channel of contamination between the vicious and lawless, and decent people.

There is little thought of administering justice so that individuals can improve. There is every thought to punish and create misery.

Justice systems thereby become a sort of cancer which erode every splendid ambition and achievement of the decent citizen. 

“Justice” apparently cannot be trusted in the hands of Man.

You can see the full document here: NEW HOPE FOR JUSTICE 

To a scientologist, turning someone over to “wog” justice is a cruelty.

Scientologists believe that someone who commits a crime can only be cured by scientology auditing. Hubbard admonishes scientologists:

All evil stems from aberration. And it can be pretty evil. And awfully aberrated. The only road out from evil is processing. 

Aberration here refers to non-optimum conditions or conduct. Processing is scientology auditing. Turning someone over to law enforcement prevents them from “receiving standard scientology.”

Finally, the overriding concern of every good scientologist is the well-being of scientology. Anything that detracts from the image or “good work” of scientology is bad, and anything that assists scientology to raise its profile and reach in the world is good. Negative media stories about scientologists committing crimes are very bad for the organization. And thus bad for all of mankind, because if scientology is unable to get “the tech” applied broadly, every man, woman and child on earth is doomed to a dark, painful future. This factor guides all scientologists’ decisions about what is right or wrong, even if there were no specific rules covering a circumstance.

Scientologists who do not report crimes to law enforcement are not merely “following the rules,” they are doing what they have been taught is the “right” thing to do.

 

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Filed Under: Legal, Public Relations Tagged With: Danny Masterson, FBI, Introduction to Scientology Ethics, Karin Pouw, L. Ron Hubbard, wog

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  1. Richard Plick says

    March 15, 2023 at 9:45 pm

    I sincerely hope y’all will join in with me in a message to all of the members of this filthy criminal cult.

    F! SCAMATOLOGY!!!

    WHAT A BUNCH OF CRIMINAL CUNKS!!!

    By The Way … there is a real stupid comedy historical TV documentary series by a British lady whose first name is “Cynthia” and whose last name is “CUNK”. What a stupid name!!!

    I kid you not! That is her real name. At least that is the real name of her TV show and she puts her name out there as “Cynthia Cunk”. No Shit! No kidding! Can you believe that?

    You will not believe just how stupid this quasi comedy quasi historical documentary is. It’s really worth taking a few minutes to watch some of it … just in case you may happen to have some really stupid friends who just might enjoy something as ridiculous as this TV show.

    Her last name is realy “Cunk”. No kidding!

    Some people may actually enjoy this stupidity. I watched 2 episodes and that was plenty for me.

    Her first name is Cynthia and her last name is “Cunk”! Can you believe that?

    What a perfect name to go along with such a stupid TV Show! Cynthia Cunk!

    I wanted to find a way to make fun of her name. But it’s just too easy. Too easy to make fun of such a stupid name!!!

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  2. Karen de la Carriere says

    March 15, 2023 at 8:48 pm

    Very important video.
    Twittered to Law enforcement who should know about this
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  3. PeaceMaker says

    March 15, 2023 at 4:28 pm

    “Laws of the land” does not necessarily mean local, state, and federal laws. “Acceptable truth” Scientology-style?

    Laws of the jungle would be more Hubbard’s style – or the Darwinian sort of “might makes right” in the story of Bolivar and his consort Manuela extolling ruthlessness, that is part of the “scripture” of Responsibilities of Leaders.

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  4. Los Angeles Anonymous says

    March 15, 2023 at 11:03 am

    Just left a comment on the L.Ron birthday post that talks about a case of reporting a crime against another member.

    Basically well connected, mostly public, semi-famous family had a domestic violence incident on Feb 19th in Clearwater. The 2nd gen son called the police at around 1am. Reporting that his wife (also a member) brandished and swung a kitchen knife at him. The report also states that the “victim” the 2nd gen son called the wife a derogatory term and that a “tussle” occurred. Then she ran to the kitchen to get a knife. The police had the audacity to call it a “tussle” but not state who touched whom first. The wife is about half her husbands weight and most of a foot shorter. He had charges pressed against her and a no contact order was put in place. Felony domestic violence and aggravated assault. He claimed to be in fear for his well being.

    A few days later, he tried to take it back and filed a motion saying he didn’t want her to be prosecuted and wanted to be able to have free contact with her again. They were only suppose to have contact to discuss their infant child. The judge denied his request for communication with the “suspect”. Did allow her to move home to their shared residence. It’s assumed he’s moved in with his very Clearwater connected parents. Who raise money for the IAS. His mother went CLEAR a few years back and managed Superpower Run Downs, last TruthAboutScientology’s record has vern updated. The judge on this case by happen stance handled his divorce with his first wife about 13 years ago. First spouse was also a member. The judge now handles felony cases in criminal court.

    What is strange is that the police took his word in the incident, even though he has a drunken disorderly arrest in the past and she has no record at all. Tried to call a physical altercation between spouses a “tussle” and paint his wife in the worse light. Seems like the son let his emotions get the best of him and pressed charges without thinking of the violation he was committing. His parents have had some involvement in his family court cases before like paying court fees etc for him. So it’s very doubtful they wouldn’t have had a talk with him and get him back on the “right” course.

    Now the Suncoast Narconon location has followed the wife on social media and vice versa. After their contact hearing in court. The son’s father, a string puller has also started to follow them. Looks like she is going to get blamed even though he is the one that broke L.Ron’s rules. By involving Clearwater police and Pinellas County. The wife has a public defender assigned to her case at this time. She works in early childhood care so her husband may have actually ruined her career with the charges. The 2nd gen son has a semi-famous sister who was arrested on a plane a few years back for an altercation with her husband. Where she allegedly assaulted him according to eyewitnesses. An off duty air Marshall detained her. She called her father to “fix” the situation after asking for her phone back while still in custody. Not a lawyer but her father. She was released from custody after her husband failed to press charges. Last thing she was heard saying in the video recording obtained by TMZ, was that her husband had “put her” in this situation. Victim blaming and “pull in” logic on display. She changed her artistic name two years ago after the arrest largely ruined her music career in the rock industry and now most people don’t realize who she is. Her connections to the church or the incident. The family are very good at strategy, you have to give them that. Two 2nd gen kids with domestic violence issues in ONE family.

    I should mention for context a former partner of the son, has domestic violence and stalking injunctions filed against him in a child custody case. The former partner was never a Scientologist, so she was willing to file.

    The son likely really messed up as far as his parents and Scientology is concerned. They likely don’t want the incident out as it would bring up his sister’s past who has tried to relaunch her career with an album release, successful festival appearances and radio play.
    Most of all, he betrayed the tenets of dear old L. Ron.

    Handing the situation over to wog justice. Now the family looks to course correct into Narconon ….again.

    Random fact about this family they have quite a few connections to the Masterson’s and the Masterson’s support system. Danny’s sister follows most of them and does the rare social media engagement with them. The semi-famous daughter used to be employed by Vanessa Mooney. Named in the case. Is close to Urbanati also named in the case. I believe Urbanati attended the daughters publicized wedding. As did Chris Masterson’s wife. The third “ second gen “ sibling in their family is now engaged to one of Danny’s close friends and the person who was credited in leaking photographs of Ashton Kutcher attending that big Scientology wedding a few years. After the allegations against Danny were out. The newly engaged couple just released a film together at SXSW. The family runs a little self empowerment jewelry company. Selling their items to often young impressionable rocknroll fan’s using popular names. The fans have no idea who they are actually giving money to with each purchase. It’s believed some of the funds end up back in the churches hands. The family doesn’t really have much money after a decade of merchandise sales and the son was nearly evicted with the wife (now suspect) last fall. Claiming he couldn’t work and didn’t have any money. Yet was listed as the President of that merchandise company? What kind of President of a company do you know works for free? Maybe they use the Seaorg model even with their own family.

    Going Clear is expensive, Super Power Run Downs and ultimately time wasted in Narconon.

    So a big mess up for a family with a lot of ambition and connections to those higher up than themselves. Not a lot of funds for the bridge though. So much winning going on!

    The patriarch of the group had to retake a basic Scientology course. So that’s often not a great sign either. According to the TruthAbout running database. He spends almost all of his time in California away from Clearwater, doing what no one knows and his wife the fundraiser back in Clearwater…doesn’t want to comment about publicly when asked by friends on social media. He’s suppose to be in “dentistry” business consultation. Had a very interesting former business partner in the early days of the 90s. Follows surfing and the athletes in it. He also travels a lot. Often to all of the cities with Ideal Orgs. According to the IAS wife’s own statements it’s a “big thing” for their family that he is working on. He use to be WISE listed so that really could mean anything.

    PS: Totally unrelated of course haha…..If you ever see a guy in Fedora and sunglasses outside your house, place of work etc or a baseball cap with a bear on it….well you figure it out. Haha.

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  5. Glenn says

    March 15, 2023 at 10:57 am

    Hubbard also penned a Flag Order titled Rules and Regulations, Obedience To. It mandated that everyone obey the laws and not seek complicated and dishonest ways around them. Because doing that only brings risk and lengthy battles which can be lost by us.

    But you and I both know this Order was never followed. Only complicated, fraudulent, dishonest means were used in dealing with governments or any law enforcement agencies. In my decades I found no one who followed that FO if they even knew of it. No one, ever. Lies and “shore stories” fabricated and sworn to government officials in complete disregard to the very good and workable advice that Flag Order required. The most common justification for the fraud and misrepresentation was always “it is in the greatest good for the greatest number (Scn)”

    No wonder the cult has so much trouble.

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