It’s getting wackier. If that’s possible.
Now anyone’s crazy scheme is being tagged onto the crazy scheme of “Ideal Orgs.” And the orgs are even promoting it.
It used to just be the blind leading the blind.
Now its the crazy on the coattails of crazy.
There are so many things wrong with this it is difficult to comprehend. Including his kid? He wants to row across the Atlantic to “back up Chairman of the Board”?
Hey, I have an idea. I want to build a house. How about an “Ideal House” program. Give me $500,000 and I will make my dream come true and make it to the level of Humanitarian (I will get Tony Ortega to give me a cert). Maybe I could get some orgs to promote my fundraising campaign to become a Humanitarian.
Hello! My name is Danny. I have had an idea for a long time of rowing solo across the Atlantic Ocean. I kind of got a failed purpose on it as I thought it was impossible.
So when I was talking to Surinder and Aaron (UK Ideal Org Fundraisers) at Saint Hill, they asked me if I wanted to do my Humanitarian so I said “it’s impossible”, but when talking to two Sea Org members, “impossible” doesn’t exist!
I looked at some ideas of how this could be done. I remembered that I had the Atlantic rowing cycle which I really wanted to do so I thought I would combine the two.
A solo crossing to raise funds for the Ideal Org!
The crossing is from Grand Canaria to Barbados and is 3,000 miles in an ocean rowing boat. It has been completed by a few dozen people, but hundreds have tried. The record is 42 days.
Please see the pictures below to give more mass on the whole project.
|Ocean row boat||Kit for solo trip|
The standard operating basis for an ocean row is 2 hours rowing and 2 hours resting. It is quite a gruelling challenge, but can be done. I am not a stranger to adventure sports. I was skydiving for 3 years in the UK and USA and regularly jumped from aircraft at 13000 ft and 18000 ft. I have even tried my hand at bull riding – however nothing as adventurous as this!
This has been a dream of mine to do, and it is also a dream of mine to become an Ideal Org Humanitarian!
I want this for all of us, and especially for my son Trin who is 7 years old and we have come down from Manchester so he can study at Greenfields (an Applied Scholastics School at the other end of England). I have included a picture of me and my family at the bottom of the email so you can get mass on us.
My wife is the ED Manchester and just came back from an ED’s conference at Flag and we really want to back up Chairman of the Board and the release of Golden Age of Tech Phase II with the aim of getting Ron’s postulate of a Clear UK done!!!!!
I want to do the Humanitarian this week! I think if I can do this, then anyone can and so want to do it now and I hope this will inspire others.
I need help from Scientologists to sponsor me in advance so I can do the Humanitarian and also fund the project itself.
I am sure many will think I am crazy, but if you are reading this communication now it is because I feel that you understand this craziness and see it for what it is, which is a real, burning desire to achieve and win! You have to be willing to be crazy and adventurous to get anything done and we live on a crazyplanetwhich tells us that we can’t and should not and I disagree with that.
I need 75,000 to complete my Humanitarian as well as fund this project. If you can share my dream of opening Ideal Orgs and share my ideas on how this can be used to create huge interest, then please consider sponsoring me. Sponsors will be advertised on the boat I row in and on merchandise produced for the project.
My idea is to get 15 people to sponsor me 5,000 each. Any amount is welcomed however.
Please email me back and let me know how you can help. You can also click on the donate botton below to sponsor me. Please note in the space provided that it is sponsorship.
I feel sorry for his innocent, very cute son.
I don’t know what the laws regarding guardianship of children are in the UK but this child will be cherry-picked into the Sea Org in a handful of years.
Something is up in California. A friend of mine who has a daughter in CMO at PAC base told me that when kids are recruited and they are under the age of 16, they are immediately taken out of state and sent to Florida. Seems Child Protective Services or some ‘State Agency’ is sniffing out Child Trafficking.
Funny Greta 🙂
Alex Castillo (Flag Evaluator '75-'81 says
Hi guys, today I had nothing pressing to do, so I called the UK Orgs to get some info. I called first Manchester, then HAPI (Edinburgh Org),then Plymouth, and last the London Org. When I called Manchester I was greeted by a nice, 21 year old French girl who was happy to answer some of my questions. I started by saying I was OT3 and wanted to talk with a tech person. I managed to ask who was now running the CoS and she said there was no one person running the “church”. She said there were a number of people making all decisions.I said is it like a board of directors” and she said yes I said is David Miscavige COB and she said yes. My shore story was that I had had auditing and courses a long time ago at the London Org and I had just come back to England and wanted to continue on up the bridge. I asked if they had trained auditors and she said yes we have 2 in training. I expressed my concern about being audited by inexpert auditors and asked if they had fully trained, experienced auditors. She said yes we have the qual sec and the c/s. I said I would come to see them next week and she was happy with that.Nice, naive French 21 year old girl.
Later I called again and a guy who could hardly comunicate answered the phone. I thought he was OSA but didn’t say that. I said I had called earlier and wanted to talk to someone who was tech trained. Then he transfered me to another person who turned up to be the ED, Mrs Fitzgibbon.
I can’t reproduce the whole conversation but I did manage to say to her
that I had received the email advertising her husband’s effort to support David Miscavige and she said: “my husband wants to do what he wants to do and it is nothing to do with COB David Miscavige. “Leave my husband alone. He wants to do this all of his own, give him a chance to have some time away from the wife and all”. I said that was a great idea and then asked her if she realized that LRH’s tech had been altered by David Miscavige but all she could do was to say “if you want to discuss what you want to handle for yourself, come and see us”. After I told her my actual backgound and how I was concerned that David Miscavige was all but destroying scientology by altering every bit of tech in the book,she managed to say “thank you for the call, I hope you manage to resolve the issues you have” She sounded like a not so brainwashed intelligent
person, so there is hope on that one.
Then I called the Plymouth Org and ran into the ED (holding everything from above-including reception. He bought my initial deceptive statements and when I told him about me, my background and the purpose of my call, he listened like with good trs, let me finish and then told me I could come and talk to someone and there would be an answer to my problem!!!!
Similar thing with HAPI (Edinburh Org. Once again, the ED was holding reception (hint,hint) and by gosh he was receptive. I told him who I really was (except my name) and how they are being duped by Micavige, etc and he listened to the whole thing without interrupting. Don’t know if I got throughto him.
Last I called the London Org and the receptionist just listened and when I finished just said the stock answer: “Just come to see us and we will try to handle your problems”.
I have the feeling, after talking to 4 different people, that, although they wouldn’t admit it, they are not so sure they serving the righ master. Every time i spoke, I highlighted the wonderful work LRH had done for the human race and I could not get an answer to how come such effective tech had been altered by David Miscavige or how come instead of expanding scientology, Miscavige is expanding MEST and destroying Scientology. Clearly the people I spoke with, including Fitzgibbon’s wife,are very, very ignorant of the original OEC (none of them have read or study it), none of them were “Clear” or “OT 3” ( I introduced myself as an old OT3 from the 70’s).
I can clearly see that the orgs people are Tone 40 duped into believing that Miscavige’s criminal actions are the acts of an Extraordinary Humanitarian Being all out to save the world. That’s all I can gather from this little excercise. The really sad thing is, they are all fine, decent people, not dirty but ignorant and naive, some hanging on to the “LRH is source” thread, which gets thinner by the second. I feel sorry for them.
Yuck, get me outahere.
Alex, it has nothing to do with COB. If poor Fitzgibbon dies, you can’t trace it back to COB, got that? COB is innocent in advance and must be protected at all costs. His arse is precious.
Good job on communicating to them, Alex. Every seed planted has a chance to grow. If I might suggest, a good thing to use is the youtube video that shows that PDC #20 has had parts taken out of it. That seems to stop people in their tracks if they feel strongly that LRH shouldn’t be altered for any reason.
It seems that they all have been drilled to say, “Just come to see us and we will try to handle your problems” if anyone calls with originations like yours. Route them directly to the DSA for the Dead Agent handling. 🙂
I agree with you about the people. Most, even the old-timers, are just so determined to “Carry on for LRH” no matter what, that they forget that they should look now and then to see if others are continuing on like LRH would want them to or not. Trusting souls.
IQ seems to have something to do with it, as does responsibility.
Chris Mann says
He is giving 9 billion fish their first introduction to Scientology. Thats got to be a stat somewhere. I guess fish are “beings”, so it could be worded like that at the event. Or just leave it at “9 billion given their first introduction to the tech..” etc. This is big.
I don’t want to put a lot of pressure on you Danny, but you must do this. By reaching Humanitarian, COB will be one step closer to clearing the planet. I know COB is probably busy but maybe he could accompany you; not to row silly, but to provide you with the inspiration you will need to complete this and not have a big failed purpose hanging over you. He will be your COCKswain (he has a handle on the first part), reminding you each stroke will bring you closer to this brass ring. I don’t want to keep you so I will end off by saying that just as soon as I find my checkbook, I am going to seriously think about contributing to your cause.
Jere Lull (37 years recovering) says
And with Dwarfenführer as COCKswain, there’s almost no additional weight, NO added windage from his height, and an inexhaustable supply of hot air. Put him in a seat facing aft and he might just help your progress… until you axe him with one of the oars in frustration from his constant stream of commands/unhelpful suggestions.
Rowing for IAS Dollars.
If you caught them in the middle of the most heinous crime, they’d probably demand some money from you in response. That’s all they see.
Ocean Rowing Boat £13,000
Alex Castillo (Flag Evaluator' '75-'81) says
Dan, Steve If Fitzgibbons’s wife is the ED Manchester and she has recently “briefed” at Flag along with however many EDs are left in this world, it kind of makes you think what kind of “briefing” these poor people were given. Maybe they were put against a wall, slapped a few times to bring them back to PT and told by their beloved COB how bad they are making him look and how treasonous they are being by not raising enough funds for the next building. Perhaps they were given an ultimatum: “go back to your orgs and RAISE lots of money or you will be declared suppressives because by being CI you are suppressing me at a time when I am busy trying to save this planet”. Or something along those lines. Desperate times call for desperate measures. And Miscavige knows that FEAR is the KEY to dominating people. Maybe the KOOL-AID is more fear than anything else. Now this poor Manchester ED has convinced hubby to help before she gets sent to oblivion (RPF).
I can see more insane shemes (scams) being developed by Org EDs after their “briefing”.
Cool boat. If anyone knows this guy, tell him I’d like to buy it when he’s done with whatever it is he’s doing.
Madora Pennington says
And the Moonies only sell candy, flowers and cheap religious artifacts!
Sarah James says
Danny, row away from the cult.
I can only quote Jerry Garcia: “Get back home where you belong”
Humanitarian – 100 PCs C/Sed through Solo NOTs
Platinum – 20 PCs audited to Solo NOTs level
Gold – 20 PCs audited from Life Repair through Grades to Solo Clearing Course
Silver – 1,000 VWD auditing hours Life Repair to Grade IV
(Oh, I know – what a crazy idea.)
Kha-Khan – 200 PCs C/Sed and audited through original OT VII
Emeritus – 100 PCs C/Sed and audited through original OT VII
Humanitarian Training – 100 students Supervised through Class VIII Course
Platinum Training – 20 students Supervised through Briefing Course
Gold Training – 20 students Sup’ed through Class IV
Silver Training – 1,000 Supervising hours
(Medals and ribbons available on request for dress occasions – totally nuts, but I’d donate to that before donating for some suicide blister mission. “The first Scientologist to climb Mt. Everest” – uh-huh, headline news.)
Jose Chung says
Great concept that is on Purpose.Public going free
Mt.Everest Climb is almost a Disneyland ride these days
I love your list of status’!
It brings to mind a question too. Where are all the Kha Khans? How many of them are declared now? Was that cancelled too? Sheesh.
Jose Chung says
Should be an Indie awards system
When you post there may be posts from others that have not been moderated yet so you cant see them. Then when everything gets put on your post will appear to have changed positions. Maybe thats what happened.
Chris Mann says
I thought I posted this below Alex. I’m not sure what I’m doing wrong, or if it’s WordPress.
Mary Rathernotsay says
As nuts as this rowing across the Atlantic may be, there is an upside. Somebody who is out on the sea thousands of miles from civilization and doing something as monotonous as rowing is bound to enter into a state of meditation. I believe there is a good chance that when that happens this fellow is likely to have an “Aha moment”. He is likely to realize for himself that the propaganda of the CoS is full of horseshit. It’s almost inevitable that he will have some sort of realization once he’s so many days away from the lies and PR.
He may come back a changed man, leaving the cult far behind. If I were COB, I’d be concerned this would happen.
On a lighter note, yeah, I’d rather support Mike’s Ideal House. Lol.
I can’t even read the whole thing. Can anyone spell, “Bake sale?”
Ok. So what if Danny boy dies out in the middle of the big, blue ocean, God forbid. Is the IAS going to support his family the rest of their lives?
Wife looks worried. Kid’s pretty small. Dad’s pretty old. I don’t forsee good.
Jose Chung says
I would not endorse “Pirate Base Jumping”,”Free falling from Outer Space”
“Rocket Car breaking the Sound Barrier’ “Ocean Rowing”
“Rocket Motorcycle jumps over the Grand Canyon” and the likes
thereof for Church PR, any Church.
Joe Pendleton says
So in addition to be being asked by CoS people to “up your status” (no, up YOURS buddy), you’re asked to give to another guy so he can up HIS status ….. it never ends. Why? Because the brain dead (“finance” brain dead?) KEEP FREAKING GIVING!!!!!!!
All this guy is doing, ALL he is doing ….. is trying to tap into the gravy train. Why not? As long as the idiot “marks” are so easy, get some of their moolah for yourself. (yes, I realize it is getting harder and harder for the IAS and the “ideal regges and fsm’s” to con people who are running out of dinero, but now is the time to get on the train before it runs off the rails and con as much money as you can before the scam collapses).
Ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh. It’s nice to have my money in the bank away from these blood sucking vultures. “Honey, who is it on the phone? ……. Tell Bridget I’m in the tub. Yeah, I’ll call her back ….. when? ….. uhm ……how about never.”
Jose Chung says
What jumps out at me is “Unusual Solution”
and what about Scientology resolving Scientology.
I’m not knocking Ocean Rowing but I’ve been in a couple Hurricanes
and Cyclones at sea. Not something for a 9 to 5 job I can say.
Making Auditors and auditing public to Clear
seems to be more aligned with Humanitarian PR.
The question is will Little Davey see him off Blessing his sturdy craft
with sprinkles of the sacred scotch.
Unusual is the new Affluence.
Dave might piss on it in blessing.
He’s gonna need a LOT of niacin…
What manipulation and what blindness; to see good people fall for this shit again and again is horrible.
Still on your side says
Accenture sponsors boat races, but I doubt a US government contractor is sponsoring a Church of Scientology fundraising effort. Is taking the name off the boat one of those “little” things this fellow forgot to think about (like forgetting he has a beautiful son who needs him more than the church needs his money).
Still, the boat in the foto is entering us waters. Please allow me to interpret the flags in the foto.
Union Jack on the stern. Vessel is UK registry and could be making an international or a coastwise voyage.
US flag on cabin top. Called a courtesy flag, flown by a foreign ship entering any country’s waters. This is universal.
Yellow, or “Q” flag. Sometimes called the quarantine flag it is a signal to customs and the health authorities that he wants clearance to land. Also universal for foreign flag ships entering a harbor.
It’s a foolish thing to try, but I’ve gotta wish him all the luck.
“I’m sure many will think I’m crazy…” That would be correct. And yet, underneath, I perceive an incredibly well meaning, earnest, brave and able yet utterly misinformed individual doing his best to contribute the only way he knows how, or the only way he can. What a waste. God Damn these lying bastards, God Damn them.
Kevin Bloody Mackey says
I actually understand his position, there is only so much pressure to ‘donate’, ‘give’, ‘contribute’, ‘save mankind’ and ‘sacrifice’ for the Cof$ that it gets exhausting to keep deflecting the desperate reges who seem to have the impetus to hit again and again each time with new angles until they ‘crack’ you, then after that bleed you dry and take everything. I’d seen it happen to many others and holding out was getting to be an untenable position.
Under that pressure, and in an attempt to salvage what I had of my own life I also hatched a desperate plan to hike the ‘Great North Walk’ from Melbourne to Cairns for TWTH.
At least it would get me out of the reach of DM’s vultures.
Exactly! And this way, he gets to accomplish his lifelong goal, and not be accused of having other fish to fry. He found a way to make lemonade out of all that koolaid.
Yep. He wants to contribute and “do the right thing” but he’s been bled dry (or damp, maybe). Propitiation in full swing. Is he ex-SO? (no offense to those who are. Just that that can set him up for propitiation since he’s not “saving the planet” 24/7)
Danny, the real world record would not be for you to cross the atlantic in 38 days. The real world record would be if you are able to find 15 scientologists left in the uk who still have 5000 pounds each…
Soon you’ll be broke like them if you dont change your mind
Cat Daddy says
Dan: SAVE YOUR KID, SAVE YOUR KID
gato rojo says
It’s incredible how much effort is being put into avoiding training as an auditor. It’s like a plague!
Exactly, gato. It’s some kind of suicidal delusion.
Morris Adams says
You ever hear about the “Theta Posse”? A group of fund-raisers in the San Fernando Valley descending on people en-masse to get money for the Valley Idle Morgue? I just ran across this musical group called “Insane Clown Posse”. Here is their web-site. You may want to use one of their pictures at the top of one of your posts.
John Doe says
Rowing across the Atlantic? That’s like sweeping the floor of a bathroom with a toothbrush.
…or licking it.
This is wacko! The only similarity to other Scn Inc promo, emails is in the begging kind of whine. What is appropriate for that is classic music from Beggar’s Banquet – Sympathy for Miscavige, oops I mean: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pkXIYgsvO0c
The IAS is desperate. They have been easily ripping off money for years with bullshit PR, but now that truthful bad PR has crashed their stats (commissions), they need to figure out new ways to con the clapping seals out of their money… Their bright idea: why not let the koolade drinking, chump parishioners come up with their own lame ideas on how to rip off their fellow parishioners and then split the booty with them! These are acts of desperation… these IAS vultures are going have to get a real job or get thrown out in the street by their landlord… The days of easy IAS money have gone…. they’ve gone dancing with the stars.
Just Me says
This isn’t funny. It’s just sad. Truly sad.
My thoughts precisely. It’s utterly sad.
It’s been years since I’ve spoken to a scientologist — but I’m afraid he’s probably not a great deal different than most of them. Crazy to the bone.
This would be funny if it weren’t so deadly serious. This is a dangerous thing to attempt, particularly without the proper safety precautions and backup from nautical associations.
This man has a 7 year old son.
I suppose we can look at it this way, at least his wife went to Flag for an ED conference and WAS ACTUALLY ALLOWED TO GO HOME.
And what happens if he dies at sea? Well someone in the church will wash their hands of it all stating that he was PTS (…he pulled it in…) and a result of the bad PR he will be declared posthumously.
As for his wife she will be denied the OT levels as a result of the flap. That is how Dave will show he has your family’s back.
Should he make it the church will happily take the check and award him some “big being” status.
Chris Mann says
This can’t be real. The term “LOL” gets tossed around a lot, but I did literally LOL. LLOL.
I mean, I don’t want to tell the guy to not do it if it’s his dream, but just the way it’s written and the pic of the rowboat- it’s like something from a Wes Anderson movie.
Jose Chung says
David Miscavige is no doubt tickled pink because it involves
nobody getting auditing and going Clear. I can find a better
“How I spent my summer vacation” and for far better humanitarian causes.
Best of luck for the rowing at any rate.
Isn’t it totally against policy for someone to be fundraising for ANYTHING other than Scientology through Co$ channels? He’s fundraising for his little dream/hoby to row across the Atlantic Ocean. The whole Humanitarian crap is just a ruse to get money from Scientologists around the world. The fact that this email has come out through Scientology channels IS crazy. Total breakdown. The end is near. Chaos is afloat.
I want to produce a movie. Please send me money so that I can create this movie about growing tomatoes inside a volcano in Alaska during the winter! It will show that everything is possible — I only need $75,000. Anything extra I will give to the IAS. Please send now! I promise to strap the e-meter on to the tomatoes as well as a camera focused on them broadcasting out to all you in cyberspace 24/7. You can send your good and bad thoughts to the tomatoes and we can measure – per LRH tech – how your thoughts affect them. Again… it sounds crazy, but it’s really sane. Send $75,000 NOW. You’ll be a part of history.
Jose Chung says
The Bank of Nigeria has your money ready !!!!!
Lecture 12 November 1959 THE RULE OF THE WEAK VALENCE explains how a person goes into the valence of a LOSER. I wonder if this guy’s heard it.
Over on Tony Ortega’s site today is another installation on Scientology Ethics. But at the bottom is a video from Tory Magoo and Mark Bunker where Mark describes the absolutely abandoned desert that is the Phoenix Org. Too bad he didn’t supply Tory with footage.
Main Man says
An incredible task he has set himself. To find 15 scientologists in the People’s Cult that still have 5000 (dollars or pounds?) to their name. If that is indeed the case, then those regges aren’t doing their jobs properly and heads will need to be thrust onto pikes as per cult policy. Would be a lot easier if he just takes the money and hands it over to the Idle program instead of undertaking his rowing adventure and thus proving that he has “other fish to fry”. Instead of wasting time, get down to your local cult franchise and volunteer to spend 42 days cleaning the toilets with your toothbrush – a particular favourite of one sadistic ED I am glad I no longer know.
Tony DePhillips says
Man, that’s deep.
Mike, Off topic. Looks like Davie, I mean RTC, I mean CSI, or Bitter People over Bitter Apostates have parked mikerindersblog.com while the TX case is boiling over…
They can’t let him do that! 42 days out of Scn’s control? There’s no telling.. he might
have time out there to start thinking for himself. Very dangerous stuff.
That shows you can be up ‘Shit’s Creek” with a paddle!
“The Why is God”.
In dm´s church, He is God.
Johannesburg ideal prospect says
Danny you are full of it. I KNOW someone who completed this race.
You are not crazy, just ignorant. You need years of training, stamina,commitment, high pain threshold, good sea legs and heaps more money than you state.
Seriously Danny, get off the cool aid! That shit is gonna kill you!
Forever Lurker says
Contrast with the old days (early 70’s) when people would simply “man up” and train to be auditors within 30-60 days, go find their own pcs out on the streets, and audit them.
Nowadays, all people can do is go to events and work on silly projects. Agree to endless, endless, endless theory studies. No one is gonna become an auditor anymore.
It’s really pretty pathetic.
“I have included a picture of us at the bottom so you can get mass on us.”
It’s hard to believe I used to say things like this, even though I tried not to. The sad thing is most Scn don’t know what it is that’s coming out of their mouth. How do you know he’s jacking your TA? Which rudes, exactly, are out preventing you from having a simple conversation? I’m assuming you saying he’s PTS means you’ve done an interview w/him? When was the last time you actually looked up the word backflash? The greatest good for the greatest number, unless Dir I&R doesn’t approve, right?
Using secret club words doesn’t make you part of a cool secret club. Sorry.
+1 I’m sure he won’t have a special nomenclature when his legs give out and he gets spilled into the drink by a nasty little, suppressive wave. “Oh SH*T!!!” That’s pretty universal. 😉
Actually any old time Scientologist who knows his stuff wouldn’t express it like that – his use of the word “mass” here to mean his family’s photo is a bit weird and inappropriate. It’s like he has just heard the word being used by others and applies it without considering what he is applying it to. LRH mentions this phenomena on the Student Hat – ah! but of course that course has been dumbed down now! But he comes from a new generation (although he looks to be in his 40s?) that somehow haven’t quite grasped the nuances of the English language , or indeed how words are properly used in Scientology as well. It is as if he just joined a new club and likes to show he can use the terminology as well – even though if not actually incorrect, at least weird and somewhat inappropriate.
Cristian Landivar says
yeah that is crazy….I know that family and I can tell you they are very good people..but is very sad that they dont open their eyes…and keep going with that. If I was them I will go out now..they still have time…and please do something for the fucker of COB is just fucking crazy..sorry for my language but is truth…I wish they realize and open their eyes and become free for the first time.
Maybe they’ll see your post here, Christian. Maybe someone can send them this link. All of the comments might introduce just enough doubt that he’ll stay on dry land. I actually am worried about his safety.
Cristian Landivar says
Yeah..you are right!
that kid has a look of….Help Me! They are craaaaazy!
All he needs are stereo speakers playing Lrons lectures. He’ll row as fast as he can.
Maybe, maybe we could get a team of kool aide drinkers, led by Chris Savage, to climb the Eiger and have $10,000/foot towards an Ideal Morgue! Wouldn’t want to give em any ideas.
Just when you thought things couldn’t get any loonier. I can’t stop shaking my head. Poor kid means well but this is just so stupid on so many levels.
Hey Danny, our “crazy planet” also tells us we “can’t and should not” jump out of planes without a parachute. Sorry kiddo but no amount of disagreement or “make it go right intention” is going to change the outcome of that.
If David Miscavige cared about these people at all he’d reach out to them to stop nonsense like this. It’s pretty telling that he doesn’t.
Well, if he had super powers, he could fly across the Atlantic, so maybe everyone should donate to the Super Powers building.
Chee Chalker says
It sounds to me like reaching Humanitarian is his first goal and the row across the Atlantic is secondary. So, everyone who donates should be aware that they are simply paying for this man’s “status”.
Seems to me that rowing across the Atlantic would take years of training, not just a fervent wish on his part.
I would be willing to wager that his “dream” of rowing across the Atlantic is going to remain just that…..a dream. The Sea Org members were just helping him to scam his way into Humanitarian status for the planet’s most ethical people.
I think you’re right, Chee. So how much money is the IAS reg going to leave him with once he steps up with his takings?
This guy is probably just looking for a way to fulfill his lifelong goal without someone telling him it is stupid, insignificant and he should be doing something “more ethical”.
Alex Castillo (Flah Evaluator 1975-1981 says
Somehow my original post has been deleted while awaiting moderation. Therefore my second post makes no nense. Is it something I said? :))
I saw both your previous posts and wish there was a like button. First you apologized for being a UK Citizen and then you corrected yourself and said it is Fitzgibbon who should be ashamed. Right on! I love it.
I saw both, too.
Devine Comedy says
DM is seating on close to $2,000,000,000.oo in cash and these guys want to give him another $500,000.oo?”
Danny, you are right : many people do think you are crazy. And no one is stupid enough to go along with your scam–er, game. If you somehow DID manage to convince some suckers to pony up for you and you did make your Humanitarian goal you would drop your crazy scheme like a hot potato or an email from an independent Scientologist. That is SOP for the radical church: get paid in advance and then don’t deliver. You have learned well from His High Shortness.
Strange. Used to be Scientology was about making auditors, Clears and OTs. Now it’s about buildings, rowing across the ocean, and begging for money while simultaneously farting the song “Money” by Pink Floyd and balancing naked on a greasy flag pole suspended over a lake of molten lava with a flock of IAS Vampire Gibbons sucking out blood.
In other words, the Church of Scientology seems to have the same effect on people as does severe meth addiction.
The picture makes me wonder if the child in the middle was a past live Scientologist and if so, does he get to continue with his IAS status from last lifetime? Of course there will be some costs to determine your previous status. They could come up with the IAS Status rundown. Heck, any old Scientologist that are ready to drop their body could name the IAS as the beneficiary and improve their status by dying. (What a racket eh?)
None of them really look happy.
This thing about “have to be crazy to understand”. I’ve seen the same line used in an MLM venture. They redefined crazy to mean “see the world from a different viewpoint”. Crazy = good. Crazy = trailblazer.
And “15 people to give me 5000 each” sounds very much like pyramid system. Wow.
Neutron Bomb Dave is a master a redefining concepts. Now Scientology is all about fundraising, and this is the kind of thing fundraisers do. Marathon for Human Rights, Baking for Africa, Knitting for World Peace, Rowing for Eternity.
What can he do, his wife is ED of Manchester org, which apparently is not successful enough to feed them both and provide the extra required for his status.
CSI got people but it’s got no soul. Read, people. Read the crap out of yourself.
I don’t think Manchester Org is successful enough to keep their son in diapers. And his wife being the ED there makes him as well as her mega PTS. He shouldn’t be changing a light bulb let alone crossing the Atlantic in a rowboat.
Ronnie Bell says
Poor guy. If he only knew…
You noticed? The e mails, promo and so on only mention ‘fundraisers’ and its extravagant status. No more talk about “I am a Scientologist”, or “I became an auditor”, or “I attested to Clear”.
It is only fundraising, money, status…you can’t go crazier than this.
The other insanity is the obsessive and blind support for a such call leader who is only ripping them off and cares of nothing but his minute stature. What a pity.
Looking at the family picture all I can see is their son thinking, “Help me! My family is crazy and they put me away in an Applied Scholastics School. I’m not learning ANYTHING I’m just being groomed for the SO. HELP ME!”
Beside that, the rowing idea is totally self-serving. Do it yourself if this is your “dream”! The child-like logic of his plea for money is pathetic.
Jane Doe says
Yes this child-like logic of his plea for money is pathetic, but I”ve seen it done before. If you do Iron Man things or Running things, I’ve seen them wear a Dianetics T Shirt and get tons of donors sponsoring that, and I think the money went to the WTH Campaign. Which is another white elephant.
Jane Doe says
I am reading Jefferson Hawkins’ book, “Counterfeit Dreams,” and it is fascinating. One part that stopped me dead was reading about the Mission Holders Massacre where all the successful msns were desimated, followed by his observation that any past Dianetics Book campaign that had been successful… the person who had made it successful was gone… gone to the RPF or out of the church, or in one case, shot dead in a seamingly unreleated matter. (Marty covers the latter in his book too). The time track changed dramatically when David Miscavage took over (and that is an understatement.)
On a lighter note, I have enjoyed seeing names of people I actually know or knew. It’s like the Who’s Who of Scientology.
Jefferson Hawkins says
“I wanted to do my Humanitarian”…they don’t even speak English anymore.
His letter was FiLLED with bad (you should excuse the word) English! Dreadful communication skills, if “skills” can even be applied in this case.
Alex Castillo (Flag Evaluator 1975-1981) says
Correction to my previous post. I thought it over and it isn’t me who should feel ashamed of being a UK citizen. It is mister Fitzgibbon who should realize he’s giving the Old Country a very bad name! I think he needs help because he is shitfaced with KoolAid.
Idle Morgue says
Another poor sap getting hoodwinked into thinking Scientology is doing anything humanitarian out in the World.
He will be very upset when he finds out what that money is used for and how the Organization is failing at record speed and that the Ideal Org project is just a “front” so that Slappy Miscavige can get assets to drain whilst his cult is sinking.
Watch the Ideal Org’s get sold one by one and the money used for David Miscavige’s lifestyle of the “rich and famous” while he clubs the seals and feeds them propaganda of “straight up and vertical expansion” and the fastest growing cult in the World!
Just mind boggling how they get people to do this anymore! I do feel bad for them – I once was a clubbed seal too and when things no longer made sense (they never really did) I finally “looked”, which of course, blew the entire lie because the truth “as ises” the lie and sets people free! Scientology is a scam!
Jane Doe says
I sure hope someone in the outside world is keeping a list of Idle Morgues and addresses so that we can keep watch as to when he sells one, even if it is one at a time. It used to be that all orgs were listed in the back of the books under “Where to Find Scientology” or something like that. Then when DM came, they never printed the addresses of any orgs and there was not list. Maybe that was so that no one would actually LOOK at the exact address to see if there was still an org there. So now we’ll have address and keep looking to see when DM quietly tries to sell them off.
That’s a very good idea, Jane. It would be great if someone would publish a list of all the actual current RCS orgs. Then tabs could be kept via county clerk’s offices on any sales, and this data broadcast on the internet for all and sundry. In fact, copies of the county-clerks data could be sent to those still in, with no further explanation. Let them Google the address and find out for themselves that is was a Scientology Org, now up for sale or sold.
I heard the San Diego thing was sold. It was a topic here that Hungary was sold (I think – maybe it was Norway or Sweden – may have been two in the EU sold, and I wonder what’s going on in France). Chicago might be the next one to watch. I don’t know – I don’t follow this stuff beyond the blogs.
Jane Doe says
Crazy stuff! If he is successful in getting sponsors and doing the row even if he doesn’t make it, all others will be doing other similar things to get money. I can see people doing Iron Man or Running things, etc and it will be just one more thing to bug people for donations for. Just when you thought it was safe to get out of the water…… (Jaws music here)
“My idea is to get 15 people to sponsor me 5,000 each.” This would be much better than one person giving me 75,000, or 75 people giving me 1,000 each. Trust me on this.
Alex Castillo (Flag Evaluator 1975-1981 says
After reading this post I feel somewhat ashamed of having taken UK citizenship. This man represents what David Miscavige is: Master of MEST, NO interest in Actually Helping Human Kind (Auditing, Training of Auditors, etc) which is what Scientology used to be all about. This guy will now engage in an EGO TRIP that has nothing to do with the Good Old Scientology original purpose(now obviously obsolete). And he is dedicating his EGO TRIP to the KING OF EGO,the man who outrageously destroyed the subject of Scientology by altering it to an unrecognizable point and has been destroying individuals and families for the past 30 years,his Master David Miscavige. Shame on you, mister Danny Fitzgibbon.
You are either a complete idiot, or you have been made so blind that even a guide dog won’t help you. On the other hand, you, like your Master, maybe trying to forward your personal dream by using the name of Scientology (which is now worthless to say the least). You would be more appreciated if you did the trip on behalf of some genuine Charity that actually HELPS people or animals instead of robbing people blind and destroying their families. Once again, shame on you.
I have an idea that is Super-Mega Humanitarian and is guaranteed to raise stats and give wins to ALL Scientologists and non-Scientologists alike. And won’t even cost 18 bazillion dollars to accomplish, though it probably WON’T get the guys boat across the Atlantic. A) Each church member writes a letter to DM telling him that they are asking him to resign and be replaced by a qualified member of the Board. B) After a review, DM can then take a long vacation, accompanied by Federal Investigators and given new quarters. Though his new space will be much smaller, it even has a bar (lots of bars in fact). C) dumping of squirrel tech, D) emphasis returned to well trained students and well audited PC’s. E) fresh reviews and any needed programming done of PC’s cases. F) IAS returns 75% of the billions it’s collected due to being off policy. That’s a start…
I feel so sorry for that little boy. I would like to adopt him into my own family so that he could grow up and have a wonderful life rather than the one his misguided parents have in mind for him.
Cooper Kessel says
Wonder why he wouldn’t train through his levels in the 42 days? Seems like more of a game …….. but alas, it would go counter to what His command intention is. Don’t want any auditor training going on.
Come on, don’t give this guy a false purpose! Will be costly on his FPRD. Also, Acad 0-IV used to take about 10 weeks without internship, that’s more than 42 days! Added Time! Outpoint per Data Series as well. … on the other hand: When he is out there, he will be 42 days without a reg. That’s a plus point.
Man that’s so old school!
Especially in the Government Approved IRC 501Ciii Animal Farm the Church of Scientology has become.
Doncha know that any donation is not supposed to give the donor (as in kidney donor, liver donor, possibly heart donor, but definitely not a brain donor) a tangible benefit of any kind?
Making auditors produces a tangible benefit whereas crossing the Atlantic in a leaky row boat produces absolutely nothing.
That is no tangible benefit of any kind except maybe helping Danny reach his crazy dream of rowing across the Atlantic in a leaky rowboat and creating yet another empty edifice known as an “Ideal Org” which the “Scientology ‘Trust'” will sell at a loss.
Sorta like HALO jumpin’ to clear the planet.
(Maybe Danny Dangerously should stick to HALOs instead of rowing a boat since he doesn’t look like he’s qualified to pull this stunt.
No aquatic background of any kind, like rowing clubs, even kayaking and thinks that because he can jump out of a plane at above oxygen level this makes him qualified to row across the Atlantic.
I’m pretty sure he’ll be pretty safe because sharks and barracudas will give this Loony Tune a wide berth for fear of contaging this guys aberration.
Cooper Kessel says
Man that’s so old school!
Especially in the Government Approved IRC 501Ciii Animal Farm the Church of Scientology has become.”
RV… you nailed it! I don’t know WTF I was thinkin!!!!! Obviously had a relapse back into the days of Cultitis……………….
I’m back now and feeling much better!
Yo Dave ……. you’ve got a boat on the Atlantic looking for an iceberg….get some command intention on that will ya?
Chris Mann says
Cooper, the rowboat is so expensive because it has a Gold A/V system and a clay demo table and all that.
Wow! This is getting to Kim Jong-il levels of crazy! I feel sorry for the guy,I mean he has so much enthusiasm and idealism that could be used to making the world a really better place and instead he’s in a cult who could frankly care less about him.I hope he wakes up one day
Martin Padfield says
My thoughts more or less. Don’t know the fellow personally but if his ability to see a pack of elephants in the room matched his energy he would be doing himself and everyone a great favour.
Aside from this – the UK public, as probably all public around the world, are spent, maxed out, potless and unwilling to put 5 grand together for anything “church”. And if he goes outside the bubble to get sponsors – the first question he will be asked is “what is the good cause?” Try explaining it to your average Joe, Danny. It might just make you think it through. Tsk.
Leslie Stipe says
Wow…they look like a normal family. But let the jokes being…”up the creek (Atlantic)…”
Is this really the way to support COB? I mean that ED conference at Flag must have been out of this world!
i just wet my self laughing………….!!!
Incredible Danny, and yes, even those who are chuckling want to “help” you. Fortunately for you it won’t be in the form of financial support, since that could only sink your ship faster.
You need a cruise alright, but it should be where your wife and son can soak up the sun and smell the salt air and hopefully locate yourself in space and time. Don’t EVEN think Freewinds, the Titanic that will be bashing it’s bottom anytime now. I’m starting to think of some sort of aerosol spray that would bring these fellows around like smelling salts, but it appears their perceptics have shut down. Pandemonium, just what does it look like???