Anything is good reason to hand over your cash in the world of scientology…
A disaster. A new building. Ron’s birthday. Your birthday. The end of the year. Thursday at 2. The Super Bowl…
But this one, from Mr. CCHR himself, the Financial Investment Advisor, Author, IAS Freedom Medal Winner, Keynote Speaker, IAS Reg and all around homo novis, is over the top even by scientology standards:
Bruce Wiseman is pitching people to give $20 a month for the “majestic” commercials (this last one was anything BUT majestic — confusing drivel more like, with a condescending “we thought so” to top it off) but he gives himself away “And let me know, would you…” and then “this will help — you, me the IAS, LRH and your fellow man”.
Obviously he is planning on trying to establish a steady stream of income for himself — 10% of $20+ a month for every person he gets signed up. He need do nothing more. He wants people to “let him know” so he can make sure to claim the commission on the money they fork over.
And then there is this: “Thursday, of course, are days or particular devotion in our religion”… OMG. It is true, Thursdays should be set aside as a special day of EXTRA devotion to the dollar. Worship the cash. Pray that it comes in before 2pm. This is the holiest of holy days and the credit card is the sacrament of the religious services so devoutly performed each Thursday lunch time and shortly thereafter.
Let’s not even mention the last guy that forked over $10 million was told it was to finance “planetary dissemination”, and so was every other sucker that did the same, whether it was 10 mil, a solitary mil, 100K or $100. In the last month they have collected AT LEAST 10 times what they spent on these ads. They only run them so they can have SOMETHING to show the people that give them money. And they will keep hammering away for more and more and more… Scientology can NEVER have too much money. Even if they have nothing they are willing to spend it on.
It’s a sickness of the scientology organization built into its DNA. Greed.
Hanniam says
Long time lurker, first time (belated) poster just to share a true story about the ad when it aired during the Olympics opening ceremony.
I’ll preface it by saying I entertain myself during commercial breaks by mouthing off at the commercials, so this is what it looked like in our house on Friday:
Scientology: Curious?
Me: Really not. No.
Scientology: We thought so.
Me: Well, that was prescient of you for once
I can say with complete certainty that their ad didn’t help our particular audience’s view of the cult at all. The few people in the room who didn’t already know about Scientology were curious enough about the rest of us bursting out laughing to pause watching the ceremony to ask for a “what’s wrong with Scientology?” Brief.
Those of us in the know cheerfully obliged.
Christina Coad says
I love how he says “It doesn’t have to be much” but then later on says to make sure its AT LEAST $20 a month
peterblood71 says
These fundraisers will only help the COB Cabbage Man live the life to which he has become accustomed as thousands (Is it hundreds yet? Dozens?) of others make sacrifices for his continued large living and funding of SS style offensive tactics. I love the irony of just who exactly is trying the save the planet (from the likes of $cientology).
Aquamarine says
I get so FUCKING sick of their “Saving The Planet” crap.
Wanna save the planet? Ghandi gave each of us a one sentence solution:
“BE the change you want to see in the world”. One basic concept, probably expressed in hundreds of language over thousands of years.
Its the Golden Rule, if you prefer. Ancient wisdom. Workable and simple. Not always easy. Do it whenever possible.
That will be no charge. Planet saved. Have a nice day. Thank you, next?
mwesten says
Exodus 20:11 “For in six days the people barked their orders, screamed at their subordinates, crush regged huge sums of money, emptied bank accounts, abused themselves and their dwindling public, dressed up as pirates, and stuffed envelopes with useless junk. On the seventh day, just after lunch, they counted their pennies, compiled their stats, amended their graphs and rested…with a cigarette…for a couple of minutes; therefore the Lord blessed Thursdays at 2.00PM and made it holy.”
Beautiful.
CO$ Money Doc says
Wisemann was shilling about offshore investment some time ago, and the Hollywood Reporter exposed him for some of his “promises”; I posted the following at TUB in response to that article and it seems appropriate today, given his latest BS:
“Given Mr. Wiseman’s statement that the purpose of off-shore entities is “to take some of one’s assets and move them out of and beyond the reach of the US banking system and its regulations, not to break the law but to give one the freedom to protect and do with one’s assets as he so chooses,” if he’s doing so, he’s essentially admitting to facilitating illegal capital flight, and could indeed be breaking the law, if those assets are owned by a US citizen, and are US-derived or overseas income, regardless where domiciled.
Alarmingly, it appears he’s glaringly ignorant of, or willfully blind to the Foreign Account Tax Compliance Act (FATCA ), as well as numerous other anti-money laundering and tax avoidance regulations. Signed into law by Obama in 2010, FACTA is an unnecessary answer to a variety of reporting loopholes, work-arounds, and other accounting tricks revealed as a result of the UBS-Warburg Swiss banking scandal. In 2009, UBS, Switzerland’s largest bank, agreed to pay a $780 million fine related to allegations of concealing identities and assets from the IRS, illegally allowing high-net worth Americans to exploit Swiss banking secrecy laws and overseas income reporting requirements.
FATCA adds further irritation to an already onerous tax reporting regime, as the government now requires offshore bank account holders to fill out forms in triplicate to report their income, above and beyond Form 1099. In having an offshore bank account or offshore earnings, US citizens already have other reporting obligations, including a form called FBAR, (Foreign Bank & Financial Records) for their annual report to the IRS. In keeping with the 1970 Bank Secrecy Act (BSA) reporting threshold, should you have $10,000 or more in a bank account overseas, you must file a FBAR.
Mr. Wiseman appears to be either fiducially negligent or criminally complicit, in stating he can keep the Feds at bay, because as an American citizen, there’s no legal way to anonymously open a legal bank account anywhere in the world. 9/11 changed that for ever, as US and EU regulators, along with the Financial Action Task Force (FATF) essentially outlawed the vast majority of numbered bank accounts as an anti-terrorism measure. Certain nations such as Switzerland, Austria, and Luxembourg still allow for strict bank secrecy laws, inclusive of numbered, anonymous accounts, though these countries are under extreme pressure from both EU and US authorities, to eventually eradicate these freedoms.
Furthermore, “Know Your Customer” (KYC) and “Enhanced Due Diligence” (EDD) regulations require any financial institution to verify who they are accepting money from, and the provenance of those funds, before opening either an on-shore or offshore bank account for anyone. Subsequently, banks face costly fines and onerous enforcement oversight for any violation of these complex laws. Wiseman should know better, as he must undertake the same measures as banks, in fully verifying the origin of his client’s funds.
As FACTA was effectively the final stake in the heart for Americans seeking anonymous banking, I can’t see him reconciling FACTA with his offering his clients alleged anonymity, free of regulatory scrutiny. I’m extremely suspicious of his underlying motivations and methodology. His promises are indicative of the all too typical, “too good to be true” vein of financial planner scams, but more so, reflect the usual disingenuousness that defines the convergence of Scientology and money.”
Cece says
He could just take the money and send out fudged/fabricated statement like Reed did. Thank you for your post.
CO$ Money Doc says
The banks were the money is kept would have to be in collusion with him, which would be remote at best. Faking forms doesn’t provide adequate cover for the crime, given the current electronic tracking of inter and intra-banking funds transfers. But given the hubris of many Scns, that’s not to say he couldn’t try. If caught, the Federal penalties are significant, with prosecution coming from a variety of agencies.
Joe Pendleton says
Yeah … $20/month …
Hello, Patrice ? The IAS is saving another million people from starving in Africa this week and all we need is another $10 a month . That’s two lattes a month to save millions of people … Are you with us on the fourth dynamic Patrice? Just another $10 a month …
Hello Patrice ? Did you hear what the psychs are planning now in Slobbovia? With just another $10 a month from you and other TRULY dedicated Scientologists, the IAS could …
Alex Castillo (ex Flag Evaluator 1975-1981) says
Off topic.
Mike, do you remember some years ago you came to London where we met? Your phone had been hacked and the PIs sent by Miscavige knew exactly where we would meet. We went to Buckingham palace to see the change of the guard where the PIs were overtly following us, videoing and photographing our every move.
We then walked to Trafalgar Square with the PIs in tow, walked into a cafe and then we managed to give them the slip!
You were with a lady ex whom I liked but never got her name or who she was in the scheme of things. So I wonder if could tell me who she was?
Mike Rinder says
See email Alex
Alex Castillo (ex Flag Evaluator 1975-1981) says
Got it Mike, thanks for the answer:))
Imnewhere says
The thing that gets me is not just the grossness of taking money from people who probably don’t have it. And that is gross. But what truly bothers me is the money that people so willingly hand over for a commercial for their “religion” when that money could do so much more to actually help the impoverished, the sick, and the abused people of this world. So many charities do so much and people are handing their money over for this garbage. All the money this “church” has and they don’t actually do anything to help people. Makes me sick.
Ammo Alamo says
Brucie, did you clear your claim that “Thursdays are days of particular devotion in our religion” with the little boss? You make it sound like donations to the IAS are the sole official religious sacrament and purpose of Scientology. Of course, we all know the truth of this, but letting it out to the public is a major no-no. For shame. Little DM may be sending you greetings on goldenrod paper any moment now, especially if your little scam fails to bring in the bucks.
Tsk, tsk, you should have taken a lesson from the time Tommie Davis made claims that infringed on DM’s prerogatives. Now the former spokesman is selling shoes to people with stinky feet at a near-defunct mall somewhere in the midwest.
The little big guy has drowned bigger whales than ol’ Brucie, I’ve no doubt. Sounds like it might rain goldenrod, yes sirree, unless someone comes up with a big religious devotion, cash, that is, and preferably before Thursday at 2 PM. .
Teen says
It’s repulsive that their religious “day of Sabbath” is based on accounting practices. WTF? Where the hell is the FBI? Hello? Are you out there? Are you listening? TAP TAP TAP! HELLO!!!! Crimony!
Peter Norton says
The FBI currently has far more problems to deal with than scio! LOL More than a little scamming going on there, too.
Hnnng says
This whole money scheme proves to me that the CoS is most definately a “church”.
The prosperity doctrine shysters have it down to an artform.
One question: do they have bank machines right in the sanctuary of worship?
PS. When official reasons for requiring $ runs out – the chorus of “let’s get to the next level!” is sung.
10% = tithe
Welcome to the economy of mega church religion.
Smmity says
Hi Mike hope things are well w you,what gets Me was Hearing that TC was making a Movie about Drug Runners,back stabber & Liars and whatever else Huh squeaky Clean TC making a movie about Drugs Yep he’d be High on that list of actors for that role NOT then this Cult was OKAY w it oh wait TC gets prob a big paycheck if ppl wanna watch that &gotta Luv a Church/Cult who Pride ? they are w anti Drugs of any kind but ok with this sure I buy that Pfft are U kidding me do they see how absurd that is smh…
Anyway ? told me there’s a Movie out there about RLH but the movie says nothing about him most likely so they don’t get sued & the person who told me couldn’t remember the name but sure U Mike or someone here knows this movie Now That I wanna see.. TY & Mike I Luv yah keep up the Great work…
#1 Son says
Mike, you write so well. I so enjoy your blog. What I love, probably most of all, is this amazing group of people who comment here. I am in awe of their clarity, depth of understanding and the pure joy with which they approach life. Thank you for blessing us and thank you for the work you do.
Golden Era Parachute says
Greed. It is lack of empathy, compassion, or remorse that drives the greed.
They get you down to Basic Personality; ergo, wiped identity, brainwashed, blank slate. It can be a euphoric state, but it’s also dangerous. One is easily manipulated into either being a target or a facilitator for the Church’s fundraising; either way, a SO or veteran staff member will always tell you that you’re helping your 3rd ‘Group’ Dynamic. This is the Cult aspect of Scientology.
You are right, Bruce Wiseman is a pro at commissions. I am pretty sure I attended one of his seminars at a Class V org. They pushed fundraising pretty hard, used a football theme (<– I think) to get everyone 'up-tone'. Set a specific target goal and wouldn't let anyone leave the chapel until the goal was reached. #ruthless
Richard says
Mr. Wiseman might make a few “clams”.
Richard says
clam – 4. Slang. a dollar or the sum of a dollar. “I only made 60 clams a week.” dictionary.com
Richard says
He obviously hopes some people will respond. He might “take in” a few clams. (a slang word for scn-ists) Or is it a few clams might get taken in? At any rate, some people will try anything for a buck (clam).
Richard says
Mr. Hubbard suggested we have genetic memories about being a clam. Something like that. Mr. Hubbard was ahead of his time in genetic research.
Old Surfer Dude says
Just remember, when you’re eating your Clams, your eating your family.
Aquamarine says
Uh, oh! We had linguini with – you know what sauce tonite. And I made it…I guess I’m in Liability now on the 2nd Dynamic…kinda taking on the color of an enemy, eating my family…tasted good though…oh, dear…
Aquamarine says
Another problem. Because of course I take full responsibility for my overts. But help me out here. Because after sauteeing my family with a little fresh garlic and extra virgin olive oil, and then tossing them with al dente linguini, and little freshly ground pepper, and then eating every last one of them – I mean, there wasn’t a damned clam left after we go thru – the family was totally wiped out – how the hell will they be able to sign off on my Liability Formula and let me back into the group? Gosh, I wish I had known, OSD. I would have made meatballs instead. I think I’m really screwed.
Richard says
Aqua – “…oh, dear…” Laughter! See below in case you didn’t look back.
Richard says
Clackety Clack!
(that was clam laughter to OSD and Aqua – they’ve accepted their place on the food chain)
Richard says
Happy clams live by the motto, “Live for today, for tomorrow you may get eaten.”
Aquamarine says
🙂 Yes, Richard, I’ve accepted my fate. I realize how I’ve been throwing myself down the chute. If one day, I find myself chopped in half and coated with olive oil and tossed into a pile of pasta, on someone’s dinner table, well, what can I say other than I pulled it in?
Nevertheless, I’m taking steps to turn this around. Forget Liability, I’ve just done my Treason Condition on the First Dynamic. “Know THAT you are”…a clam. A clam is what I am. And, whereas before this realization my life never made sense, now it does. Everything is falling into place because I’ve applied the proper condition..
I’m really looking forward to getting out of Lowers. Non E is going to be fun. I want to make myself KNOWN and find out what’s needed and wanted.
Hnnng says
And do people remember being clams?
Richard says
I didn’t but maybe someone else did. It would be a stretch of Darwinian evolution but who knows.
An area of science is attempting to track human behavior to genes. My genes made me do it, so to speak. Maybe someday they’ll isolate the Great Mother Clam gene.
Hnnng says
I think THE GREAT MOTHER CLAM is a fantastic diety for a new cult…
Unless that’s been taken already.
Let us form a giant golden mother clam.
Each of you send me $50 a month – I ain’t messin around …
; )
Richard says
Be careful. Shit happens when you make golden idols. Think Moses.
Shorpy says
Oh my, just saw this.
Honest Scientology Super Bowl commercial.
You will love it.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=22&v=WOa39XRq7fM
Mary Kahn says
This is GREAT!!!!
mickie says
Oh that’s what it was we were all going crazy trying to figure out what was the black box for makes sense now loved it.
Lynda Castell-Blanch says
ok wait, i’m so confused….did they actually have any commercials on super bowl? i didn’t see any….
bobxtm says
They only bought spots in particular markets so if you live in the wrong place you didn’t see them. I’m in Detroit and we didn’t get the ads here either.
BKmole says
Yes, that’s the accurate commercial.
Shorpy says
Mike avoid using the terms “ultimate” when referring to any Scientological.sleaze.
Because there will always be one that tops the last one.
Maybe “the latest ultimate”.
Skyler Dumbrofsky says
I plan on giving money for sure!
But not to this filthy creepy cult. That would be much worse than a terrible decision. Much worse than throwing that money away.
Much worse than helping this cult to enslave people who think they are helping this planet. Much worse than helping that little creep (the creepiest creep of them all) to beat on men who are much larger than him. I bet that makes him feel real good. Like he accomplishes something.
At any rate, I said that I plan on giving some money for sure! But not to this creepy cult. I will give it to this blog instead. Because I think that is the very best way I can help bring down this terrible curse on our planet.
You go Mike! I’m just transferring some money into my PayPal acct. It’s not a huge amount because I am a pensioner living on a fixed income. But it’s enough to help you pay for the cost of keeping up this blog.
Mike? I don’t know how you are able to put out a new edition every single day. You must be working too long and too hard. I think I understand why you would do that. It’s kind of like what a slave who is freed needs to do to help other slaves get free.
God Bless Mike and Leah. What a great fight they are making of this. I don’t know of anyone else who gives as much time and money to fight this scam. You go Mike!
Shorpy says
Gee, if they would just get Scientology Media Productions in operation they could run all the infomercials they want.
This one is especially good:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UnUbdAw9V4Y
dwarmed says
That is some awesome footage of the most half-hearted applause by Katie Holmes, next to Tom Cruise and Bart Simpson clapping like idiots.
whatareyourcrimes says
I love this very truthful spoof ad. Gads, Miscavige is the biggest douchebag I think I have ever seen in my life. Or smallest, take your pick.
statpush says
hmm…coffee…scientology…coffee…scientology…
COFFEE!
Old Surfer Dude says
Statpush, I have a full pot of Columbian coffee just waiting for you!
Rick Pyle says
And when you ask them, ” How much should we give?” Ooh, they only answer More, more, more!
CCR
Shorpy says
Nice.
Balletlady says
Seems to me they’d be much wiser & better off to run TV ads like we see for other agencies that need money with the lead line being the standard:
“For only $20 a month, YOU can help us save the planet”…..”that’s like giving up your “Mugabucks Latte” one day a week to benefit so many others”……
J. Swift says
“Don’t call me Captain!” David Miscavige and his IAS regges like Bruce Wiseman are now digging under the cushions of your sofa for loose change. How soon before they’re going after any dental gold in your mouth? The titanium pins in Tom Cruise’s broken ankle may not even be safe from the depredations of the IAS.
I just did a piece “Scientology: Save the Planet with Monthly Installment Payments!” when I too spotted this new Scientology trend of begging for monthly donations: https://scientologymoneyproject.com/2018/02/01/scientology-save-the-planet-with-monthly-installment-payments/
IMO, monthly donations reflect extreme donor fatigue in the Cult. This is how financially strapped rank and file publics have become: Can you spare $20 a month? Even Grant Cardone was offering steep 70% discounts to seats at his latest 10x event.
The IAS has, it is believed, $1.5 billion in cash reserves. The IAS doesn’t need anyone’s $20 a month but still wants it because the future of the planet is at stake.
Here at last is Truth Revealed: Armageddon approaches and only you can prevent it by sending the IAS $20 a month — and if you can get it to Bruce Wiseman by this Thursday by 2PM why that would really show the Four Horseman of the Apocalypse your Tone 40 intention to salvage this wretched mudball.
Aquamarine says
Much laughter, J. Swift 🙂
And, yeah, the Armegeddon Angle, the Apocalypse / Another Dark Age Angle. The HellFire Everlasting Angle! Call it what you like, its tactical effectiveness in prying money out of people, in making them obey, in making slaves and suckers out of people has been unparalleled. Just keep pressing that “fear of the unknown” button and you can make people do anything!
BKmole says
J.S., great work. I have noticed thanks to your work and so many others that more and more exmembers are regaining their self determination and willingness to speak out.
More people are recovering from the toxic brainwashing. And they are stepping out into the light of day again.
TrevAnon says
HEY!
Greed is good!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VVxYOQS6ggk
whatareyourcrimes says
Hey, it’s John P. Capitalist!
exbritscino says
“Don’t you sometimes sit in international events and wish the world could see what we do to help our fellow man?”
No Bruce, I don’t. When I did, the only thing I could see was the IAS helping fellow man to clear his bank accounts…….
In fact I could feel my will to live draining away by attending these events! Looking back on it I could derive more pleasure by sliding down a giant razor blade using my balls as brakes……….
“It’s one latte a week”.
Bruce, with the amount that I’ve been regged my latte consists of some luke warm water, (heated up before the kettle switched off due to non payment of the electricity bill), mixed with some earth out of the garden………
“So if you could do this Thursday (preferably before 2 PM), that would be terrific.”
What’s wrong with 2:05 Bruce? It’ll still be before 2 PM, just 6 Days 23 Hours and 55 Minutes before next week’s 2 PM Thursday…….. It’ll give you almost 1 weeks head start then………..
Bruce, if these commercials are designed to give $camology unprecedented, vertical, stupendous, ginormous, never envisaged, sky rocketing, stratospheric, galaxy busting expansion, then why do you need donations to finance them?
Surely with the extra millions of people clamouring for services, the commercials would have paid for themselves quadrillion times over before the first one even finished??
Or maybe it’s all bollocks……….?
WhatWhenAllWho says
My mouth dropped open further and further in unbound incredulity of this letter/email. Then I saw the signature and all flipped back to normal. Of course. Bruce Wiseman. Still pumping away like the Energizer Bunny as the arrogant, criminal tool he is.
Yuck. Now, if you’ll excuse me, after reading his letter, I need to go take a long hot shower to try to feel clean again.
Doug Parent says
Thursday @2. Another held down 7 in Scientology which inserts perhaps the biggest lie since day one; “It’s not about the money”. I’ll answer your Superbowl Ad question, no….. NOT CURIOUS. But we are determined. Tick Tock.
Aquamarine says
…all around homo novis…” 🙂
Your bon mots aid quite a bit in the digestion of unpalatable cult nonsense, Mike.
I Yawnalot says
Vomit!
Aquamarine says
I hear you, Yawn, but the reason I don’t vomit reading this stuff is because Mike can make it funny. Just like Mel Brooks got us to laugh at Hitler and the Holocaust. Different styles, same concept.
I Yawnalot says
My cat vomits every now and again, it isn’t sick and the food was OK, it’s just what they do sometimes. It’s where she does it that pesters me most, like on top of the sofa. Or the fun way to find it squishing between the toes at night while going to the bathroom – wakes you right up it does!
Scientology’s vomit… well, that’s all they deal in 24/7, regurgitating the same stuff over and over. I like a good chuckle too but I’ve hunted for a single word that expresses my revulsion to Scientology, at the moment, ‘vomit’ works for me.
Aquamarine says
🙂 on all, including the cat vomit, Yawn.
Zola says
The perpetual call for money…god, it’s exhausting to watch, even from afar. For those still in…what a never-ending nightmare!
Hey, it’s only a latte a week, your kids education fund, your dilettante night at the movies, your wog retirement fund, or your groceries for the week….whatever it is, just give it up for devotion to our religion. And oh yeah, make it before Thursday at 2 because that’s got special religious significance written all over it.
Pathetic and unconscionable.
Valerie says
Wait! We can fundraise for our own birthdays? My *mumble mumbletee’th* birthday just passed and I did not know that so I am now announcing the *mumble mumbletee’th* annual Valerie’s Birthday Fundraising celebration. No amount too great. All amounts too small. Do I sound scientological yet?
Does Bruce understand that need not raise any more funds for commercials. The last one is the winner. When you produce a commercial that actually commands people to google scientology, you’ve driven the last nail in your own coffin. Buh BYE scientology.
Aquamarine says
Valerie, at what TIME were you born? This info is necessary so we can play the Valerie Game. Please advise.
Valerie says
I thought it was obvious to everyone at what TIME I was born.
I was born
When the moon was in the Seventh House
And Jupiter aligned with Mars
Then Peace did guide the planets
and love did steer the stars.
Now everyone can begin playing the Valerie Game to the Age of … (Take her away OSD)
Old Surfer Dude says
This is the dawning of the age of Aquarius the age of Aquariussssss. Aquarius, AQUARIUS.
I just got in. That’s the best I could do.
Aquamarine says
🙂 Valerie and OSD. That’s definitely a tune we’ll want for our Cult Down / Party Down!
Old Surfer Dude says
Yo, baby!
Meryl Weiner says
After what scientologists already pay for IAS membership, this approach takes more balls than brains. Unfortunately, he’ll probably get a number of contributors. Although why anyone would want to contribute at all after seeing that asinine ad is way beyond me.
Dan Koon says
To my everlasting shame, I gave Bruce Wiseman his first intro auditing session at the Berkeley Mission in early 1973. At the time, I tried to do things right. Now, I wish I had made this one exception.
jim says
Dan,
I, for one, give you a pass on auditing ANYONE. All the more so given your many successes at auditing. Hard to see 30 years into the future for another, especially given the likely hood that extensive auditing beefs up the ego-persona in some folks. I saw bad end results in several friends as their social veneers peeled off during the briefing course and revealed some real….. pieces of work. Plus, totalitarian cults do draw in those individuals with totalitarian tendencies: Hungry ghosts and all of that.
I Yawnalot says
Like that French soldier in WW1 who felt sorry for a German soldier after a long gruesome battle and didn’t shoot. That soldier was Adolf Hitler.
Shit happens!
Old Surfer Dude says
What a damn shame. If only he had shot him.
Cousin says
LMAO! “Thursdays are a day of particular devotion in our religion….Yeah uhh…it’s like uhh..our Sabbath or whatever. Yeah! That’s the ticket. We have a Sabbath day too! We’re totally a religion. Just think of forking over your hard earned money as our version of ‘taking communion’.”
I’m sorry, that’s just too funny. What a line. Personally, I wouldn’t be able to give up my lattes. They make me so theta!
Outraged in Oregon says
Good grief!!
No wonder he is pushing so hard to get donations so he can get his 1% commission. If he is paying $20 for his latte then is a DUMB @$$. Anyone who donates because of the BS is a Certified Dumb @$$ who REALLY needs to get out of the bubble and start thinking for themselves.
ctempster says
I share your outrage, OIO. But correction: Bruce gets 10%, not 1%, all the more reason to reg his friends and family and coworkers for money. Bruce is a whale with lots of money, so why the big need to make commissions on everyone? Well I guess the old make money off your friends thing is ingrained into him by now by the church. But this asking for money to pay for the ads which already ran? What a stretch that is! The ads were already paid for. So is this money to pay back the IAS? No because they never spend any of their money on anything. They just send it uplines to DM. So with all his billions DM needs to be reimbursed for the price of the ads? The ones that ran on cheaper local markets rather in the expensive actual Super Bowl? Shameless.
1984 says
10%, not 1%.
RK says
Is this the Bruce Wiseman who promotes hiding income in off shore accounts to avoid paying taxes? So, contribute money supposedly to buy commercials promoting a cult, but avoid helping to pay to maintain roads and parks, schools, and public health. Go ahead. With each commercial, there are articles decrying the commercials and Hubbard’s fringe religion.
Mike Rinder says
Yep, one and the same…
Aquamarine says
RK, shame on you.
Roads, parks, schools and public health are very important to the cult!
After all, without roads, how would floods of people get to their orgs, and where would the cult do their stress tests which are bringing in floods of people to their beautiful new orgs, and my goodness what about tax exemptions for cult schools like Delphi!
As for public health, the cult is totally and so compassionately on board with an elderly, disabled Sea Org veteran, an old man or woman who is now a “useless eater” tbeing offloaded directly into a state run taxpayer funded nursing home ?
And last but not least, when a Sea Org girl needs an abortion, what would the cult do without the free taxpayer funded clinics? Paying for her would be so “rewarding a downstat” !
whatareyourcrimes says
RK, not a day goes by that I don’t learn yet one more loathsome fact about scientologists.
They really leech off humanity don’t they? Let’s pour some salt on those disgusting parasites, shall we?
The world would be so much better off if scientology was just eradicated for good. The public also sees through all their bullshit.
Carolyn says
Why O Why is this so called religion still going on !!!!! Makes me SICK !!!
Mary Kahn says
Me too. Boggles the mind.
Skyler Dumbrofsky says
I want to take this opportunity to salute Mary Kahn.
When the story of this scam if written, I believe Mary will emerge as one of the Heroes of this struggle. I salute you Mary and send you my admiration and respect. Your story was one of the key reasons I began to follow the TV show “Aftermath”.
I wish I knew of some other ways to destroy this scam. Seems to me that sending money to Mike to support his work on this blog is a good first step. If anyone can suggest any other steps to me, I sure would appreciate it.
Mike Rinder says
When the story of this scam if written, I believe Mary will emerge as one of the Heroes of this struggle.
True that.
Skyler Dumbrofsky says
Mike and Leah will also be seen as Heroes. The one difference is that Mike and Leah have already become heroes. No matter how long this fight may take, IMHO Mike and Leah are clearly heroes and they deserve a big Hero Medal. Of course, since Little Fuhrer gives hero medals to his dupes, we will need to think of something more fitting for Mike and Leah.
I need to write an email to the FBI. Surely some of the newer FBI agents would be interested in shutting down a scam that enslaves people and commits many serious crimes in America. They routinely engage in Torture, False Imprisonment, Unlawful Confinement, Kidnapping, Extortion and the list is very long. If you are an FBI agent, just think of how much America will respect you if you seize all of DM’s money and empty buildings so that all the victims of this scam can launch a class action suit and get all that money to help them rebuild their families.
Please? Mr. and Ms. FBI. Haven’t you heard and seen enough to put an end to this horrible criminal cult?
Mary Kahn says
Thank you SD. There are so many who fight this fight – so many who have exposed so much with just their story. Thanks for your support and supporting Mike’s blog is great.
I’d say write the IRS or your rep but I’m starting to give up on them – but do it anyway – I guess.
Nicole says
Agreed 100%!
TomUfer says
$20 lattes? Maybe (4) $5 lattes. Either way, caffeine before Co$ !
Cre8tivewmn says
Well to be fair Bruce was talking about giving up a latte a week , or 4 a month equalling $20.
pluvo says
Bruce Wisemann is pushing the “help button” heavily to rake in the bucks.
And let me know, would you, as you deicide to play.
He even substitutes “pay” with “play”. It sounds much better and so up-tone.
Teen says
Pray tell…the anti-psych did a Freudian slip?
Mary Kahn says
“Thursday, of course, are days of particular devotion in our religion.”
Oh My God! If I were to guess who wrote that, my guess would have been REGRADED BEING!
Dave F. says
QUESTION : What’s so “magical” about Thursdays, in Scientology ?
Isn’t that when “STATS” come out ?
Dave F.
Cre8tivewmn says
Week closes Thursday at 2.
I imagine money coming in the rest of the day causes resentment for not counting. Of course it counts for next week, but that’s ages away.
BKmole says
Bruce Wiseman once a dedicated advocate for psychiatric abuse, a shill for one of the most corrupt, greedy and criminal organizations on the planet. I truly believe he thinks the IAS spends money on magnanimous projects and causes, so of course in all good conscience why shouldn’t he collect ten percent.
He is an icon in the cult so let’s say 500 people donate $20 a month. That’s $10,000 every month $1,000 extra cash to him for writing an email. And that means $108,000 per year robbed from the clueless members.
Bruce will sleep well at night because he is “saving the planet”. How many other despots and scammers have used that justification? “Curious?”
Mike Rinder says
He won’t get 5, let alone 500.
But he is trying….
jim says
I can see Bruce on the podium now;
Do I hear 5,… 5 once more, anyone here for 5….
Do I hear 4, going for 4, someone for 4…..
OK 3, lets get going folks, we need 3,……..
Mary Kahn says
Bruce Wiseman knows better than any (or should know) what a sham the IAS is. CCHR has had to not only “reg” for their own donations (such donations don’t even go to CCHR in part or sometimes in whole) but also he and others that DO actually WORK for CCHR have had to fork over their own money for what they are doing. I think Bruce knows this first hand.
BKmole says
Mary, I know this first hand having worked for them. When I found that I was furious. Yet the people at CCHR see nothing wrong with that.
Newcomer says
Yo Brucey Woosey,
I assume you send out a commendation for every sign up as well good buddy? Seems like the most important aspect for any clam giving up a latte per week would be some form of ethics protection. That is really the most valuable exchange the cherch can offer these days.
I’ll bet you don’t even have to buy the paper to print it on. Lets do the math here Bruce;
(the semi colon is so Dave will notice when He reads this)
You get 1000 kool aide addicts to donate a latte each week so figure 52 x $5.00 x1000 = $260,000/year going to your Don (short for Dave). You get 10% or 26k/year which you use to cover your sec checks and retrains and which is tax deductable and Dave has the Outethics officers print up the commendations with cherch resources.
Whats not to like about this Bruce? Everyone wins in the good old $cientology way. Maybe those commendations will be so valuable that you can coerce 4000 clams and net over 100k!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Yo See Ogre staff, surely you to can afford one measly latte a week and get a como too. Thinkaboutit.
Glenn says
Ah yes, bowing to the almighty dollar sign again. The cross atop all cult buildings should be replaced with a $. It would be more truthful and honest don’t you think?
azhlynne says
Dear Bruce,
Concerning your passive aggressive demand for “donations” to cover the costs of your majestic commercials. I have some news for you; thanks to Leah and Mike and so many others who are introducing countless millions to exactly what you and Scientology are doing, the message is absolutely getting out there. Without all the greedy grab for “just $20 a month” might I add. Further, I can assure you that there are NO programs being put out by Scientology that are “vital”.
-The Real World
Skyler Dumbrofsky says
The more often I see these criminals beg for money, the more determined I become to send that money. But not to them! I want to send it to people who are fighting this curse and who I believe may very well succeed in destroying this cult. It needs to be destroyed. We all need to see it destroyed.
Dena Solomon says
I don’t know where this guy gets his lattes from but jeez $20 really?!
Marc D. says
That’s $20 a month…hence $5 a week. Lattes are around $5.
Dee Findlay says
Outrageous!
SILVIA says
Yes, I do remember an FSM that stopped caring for people going up the Bridge and turned his full attention to act as a Registrar for the IAS. He was making lots and lots of money and, working or producing was not longer a concern. IAS Commissions allowed him to have a lavish, lazy life.
Miscavige, set the example. He really does not create anything, does not produce anything of value. Just ‘give me the money’ and, as all cowards, he feels safe and powerful by amassing it.
ctempster says
You hit the nail on the head, Silvia!
Old Surfer Dude says
I hit the nail on my head once. It bled like a motherfucker!
Skyler Dumbrofsky says
But doesn’t he need our money to support his habit of drinking the very finest whiskey? If we didn’t give him our money, how would he ever be able to afford that whiskey?
For example, Michter’s Celebration Sour Mash Whiskey sells for $164,000 for a single bottle. The Pope surely deserves to drink nothing less. I’m reminded of the scene from Gave of Thrones where the tiny king (more parallels to the the tiny Fuhrer DM). ordered one of his guards to put a funnel into someone’s mouth and then they poured whiskey down his throat. It may not be very nice to wish that treatment on the Tiny Fuhrer. But doesn’t it make for a lovely fantasy? Seems to me that if anyone ever deserved to be treated that way, it would be Tiny Davey Boy. The following is a link to that whiskey. Please feel free to delete this link if you deem it to be inappropriate.
http://www.businessinsider.com/the-10-most-expensive-whiskeys-in-the-world-2015-7
Sarita Shoemaker says
Wow. More proof that scientology is full of crap and so are the members. Feeding off each other. Eventually there will be no more flesh to nip, rip, chew and swallow.
I thought Salt Lake City was an Ideal Org. No ad was played here.
Aquamarine says
“Feeding off each other. Eventually there will be no more flesh to nip, rip, chew and swallow.”
This.
Scientology, the autoimmune disease of religions.
#1 Son says
Can I put THAT on a shirt?
Now that’s a slogan.
Aquamarine says
Feel free, #1 🙂
Ms. B. Haven says
I think Mr. Wiseman has a good point here, Thursdays are indeed scientology’s sabbath. This is the day that scientologists worldwide concentrate their attention on the holiest of all sacraments, cash. This one-pointed focus culminates in a frenzy of activity just before 2:00pm. It certainly rivals the frantic contortions of even the most devout Sufi whirling dervishes. The spiritual gain is orders of magnitude beyond what ordinary WOG religions offer and this spiritual gain is available to all scientologists from GAT II New OT VIIIs down to raw meat just walking thru the doors of their Ideal Org for the first time. Scientology is certainly the world’s coolest religion for this fact alone. And if you thought that last Thursday was exciting, just wait for this Thursday. Every week is huger than the last with a constant flow of highest evers!!!!!
Wynski says
In the Star Trek series of TV shows they created a race of scientology execs. You can see a sample here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UIBT-JYiCuE
Student of Life says
That clip is even more hilarioius viewed in the context of scamatology as led by the mustard seed sized brain of David Miscavige. My favorite is obviously the first rule scientology: First Rule of Acquisition: Once you have their money, never give it back. Ha ha!
Wynski says
Yes, student, the 1st Rule struck me too, in light of scamology.
Chicken says
Exhausting. Never ending demands. I can’t imagine being “devoted” to system that was never satiated in any way at all. Also I thought Sundays were for religion….they better get their stories straight.
Zola says
Chicken…I just made the same comment re ‘exhausting’ and then read your entry – we are on the same page, I toast you with my latte.