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They’re Blowing Smoke Up Valley

July 17, 2014 By Mike Rinder 64 Comments

Circle Jerk

This is like witnessing a massive, LA wide circle jerk.  Not only are the Valleygirls and boys engaging in their usual self-pleasuring, they are getting it from all sides.

Jon Lundeen stroked them with this: “Valley is the most important Org in all of Scientology. It is the solution for the youth in Los Angeles. As an Ideal Org, it will deliver GAT2.”

And he called them “Magical Beings” ? (I guess one’s magical ability as a being is in direct proportion to the size of the check you write to the church).

Baseball fan and Captain AOLA, Cal Cole bestowed on them the coveted “All Star Team!” moniker. All star whats? They are certainly not all star scientologists or all star staff. They are apparently incapable of doing ANYTHING to deliver dianetics and scientology.  (Oh, wait, they cannot “do GAT 2” until they have a renovated building — it’s part of “KSW.”)

And Quinn The Eskimo, the Affluence Aficianado, chimed in with his proclamation: “Our affluence is our new expectancy.”

And there was more. Unfortunately, attendance was down, so a bunch of people missed out on all the good news, but they can now read it here.

Date: Mon, 14 Jul 2014 
From: Valley Org <valley@scientology.net>
Subject: Valley OTC Minutes, July 8, 2014

MINUTES
VALLEY ORG OT COMMITTEE MEETING
July 8, 2014

Note: The minutes are for the sole use of Valley OTC members. All members receive a copy. Please do not forward the minutes to anyone else for any reason.

ATTENDEES Kathy Welch, Kathie Heard, Mary Lee Krackow, Mary Elizabeth Glosup, Diane Temps, Ralph Temps, Karen Brown, David Nunez, Carol Loweree, Charlene Thorburn, David Wilson, Irad Ron, Tamara Dahill, Kevin Dahill, Kathy di Galbo, Dean Glosup, Alicia Kreisberg, Scott Kreisberg, Mark Anderson, Rochelle Goodrich, Chuck Jacobs, Bob Welch, Colleen Bigler, Vered Ziv, Donna Greisen, Jill Halverson, Larry Marshall, Nancy Parodi, Kathy Foster, Diane McPhee, Alan Gilbertson, Ben Ghiora, Heela Cohen, Linda Massey, John Massey, Lauren Perreau, Bob Brooks, Sue Kattoo, Jill Kirsch, Tracy Andruscavage, Marty Kassowitz, Bobbie Kassowitz, Jeanette Douglass

Quinn Taufer, Valley Ideal Org project I/C opened the meeting at AOLA.

Continental Finance Director Austin Nickels gave his updates: and can see the decisiveness of the OTC members in getting the Valley done! What Valley does influence on the rest of West US orgs.

Target is to have all WUS orgs funding in by Mar 13, 2015.

MV1 and MV2 are creating a drive to complete Valley and West US.

Int fundraising is at highest in 7 years.

Valley is #1 org and WUS is #1 Continent. Valley is thinking big, in action and moving faster.

Target is to beat last week with $1,500,000 invoiced!

Valley Org has the most $million weeks. Added effort is needed now. Keep your eye on the mountain. Persist.

CFD read from the LRH data “What Does It Take”

Valley is the most crucial Class 5 Org in this field. This is the center of the most Scientologists in the world.

Quinn Taufer introduced Captain ASHO Day Mr. Lundeen. He said I have felt the Valley cause a rumble around here. The ground is not completely secure.

Valley is happening. All of the Captains are with you! Valley is the most important Org in all of Scientology. It is the solution for the youth in Los Angeles. As an Ideal Org, it will deliver GAT2.

A most important datum from LRH is Having a basic purpose and doing something toward it. We appreciate you (OTC members and Staff) Magical Beings taking it on. Please get those pledges in this week!

Captain AOLA said, as a baseball fan, this group is like an All Star Team! Valley sends lots of people here for OT courses. We are totally behind you. Let’s pull this off!

Quinn Taufer covered the realities involved in reaching the target: At current invoices of $270,000, we must change something in order to get there! Today (Tuesday 8 July) there are 127 status increases and 400 individual donations for the week.

We changed the International demand for GI. We are inducing more activity and more fundraising internationally. If current pledges all fund now, we’ll make this week’s target. The match game has been extended!!

Next big Valley event is July 27th at the Country Club in Sunland.

“Our affluence is our new expectancy.”

OTC members went into production sending out letters and invoices to last week’s donors!

Reminders:
Kathie Heard is Overall I/C
Kathy Welch is Humanitarians I/C
Carol Espinoza is CC OTC I/C
Mary Elizabeth and Dean Glosup are Premiere Benefactors I/C
Susan Jacobs and Nancy Parodi are the I/C’s for Alumni


STATS

Division 1 – Karen Brown

Active Members – Down from 75 to 64

Division 2 – Mary Elizabeth Glosup

Gross Income $964,360

Division 4 – Tamara Dahill

# of Volunteer Hours – down ever so slightly from 383 to 282.75
# of all GAT2 starts – Up from 5 to 8
# of Events & Briefings Held – Even at 2
# of Service Starts – Even at 15

Division 5 – Kathy Welch

New stat forthcoming…

Division 6 – Kathy Welch for Joan Roeschke

Meeting Attendance – Down from 59 to 38

ANNOUNCEMENTS:

Reminder: Vered Ziv is organizing and preparing the next OTC dinner: Friday July 11th at Irad and Hagit Ron’s home at 6:30pm

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Filed Under: Fundraising, Idle Orgs Tagged With: Church of Scientology, Corporate Scientology, fundraising, Ideal Orgs, Scientology Idle Orgs

Comments

  1. Espiritu says

    July 19, 2014 at 5:30 am

    Every time I get involved with helping others and don’t read this blog for a few days and then come back to it again and read what is going on in the COS, I say “Wow”. Or, more accurately, “Huh?”
    I remember when one used to go into a Church of Scientology and they were doing… guess what? Scientology of all things! Auditing people! Teaching people how to audit others!
    So then I read about the crap that is going on in the “church” today and I think, once again in a new unit of time, “What the f— is going on here?”.
    It is just sobizarre that these people have corrupted the original purpose of enhancing the lives of others into something as shallow as “fundraising” without exchanging the services. And then they get lauded as “Superheroes”??
    “Super-circlejerkers” would be more accurate.
    If a scene like this was found to be going on a few years ago when orgs were a bit more on-policy and in-tech, these jokers would have been comm eved in a New York minute.
    But these days the cancer has already metastasized from DM to infect the whole system.
    To anyone still “in” I advise: Best bet is to give oneself a churchectomy and get on with the original purpose of improving and enhancing lives.

    Reply
  2. theholedoesnotexist says

    July 18, 2014 at 1:43 pm

    “Valley is the most important Org in all of Scientology”

    Translation: Valley has the most important whales in all of Scientology.

    Deduction: Money is the most important item in all of Scientology.

    I sure hope the IRS is getting a copy of every fundraising and “international demand for gross income” promo pieces, emails, and notes.

    Reply
  3. Pepper says

    July 18, 2014 at 2:52 am

    The Valley Org “is the solution for the youth in Los Angeles”.

    Really, how so? I haven’t seen a single activity with the youth in Los Angeles done by the Valley OTC. Not in the past or the present. If they were so interested in working with children, wouldn’t they be doing some sort of community service with kids right now and then plan to incorporate that into the new space? I don’t mean using kids for fundraising for Ideal Orgs either, guys.

    There is no activity being done with the youth in L.A. by the Valley Org period. I haven’t seen any service with kids by any Ideal Orgs, for that matter. Not now and not in the future. The only kids that will be in the Valley Org when and if it ever gets finished will be the children of Scientologists only.

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    • Sir Upticious says

      July 18, 2014 at 10:44 am

      “The Valley Org “is the solution for the youth in Los Angeles”.

      Wrong! The NOI mosque #27 that Scientology built and named the Inglewood
      Community Center is the solution for youth in the LA area. Check out the video of
      the para-military girls group which was filmed in the hall there.

      Reply
  4. Anon says

    July 18, 2014 at 2:15 am

    Down “ever so slightly” by a HUNDRED volunteer hours.

    If it were up by 100 hours, it wouldn’t be “up ever so slightly.” They would celebrate with an exclamation party.

    Brain games.

    Reply
  5. Aquamarine says

    July 18, 2014 at 1:27 am

    Kim Q. I can’t. After having read all the policies in the Green Vols, I got a sense of who LRH was and about that which he cared, and nowhere, nowhere in any of those PLs did I get the message that he had attention on buildings except in the tacitly obvious way of being necessary to house the activiities of auditing people and training people to be auditors. That’s all the man cared about! All of his HCOPLs clearly communicate that its ALL about the auditing, ALL about the training!

    Reply
    • Foolproof says

      July 18, 2014 at 8:56 pm

      Yep! Very true. Well said.

      Reply
  6. Gus Cox says

    July 17, 2014 at 11:43 pm

    “OTC members went into production sending out letters and invoices to last week’s donors!”

    Production?

    And last week’s donors are now finding out that whatever it was, it wasn’t good enough. See, that was *last* Thursday at 2. So what are you gonna do for us by *this* Thursday at 2?

    And, if someday they ever get that stupid building paid for, they’ll get harassed for the CCI remodel. Or the Ideal Org in Deer Lick North Dakota or somewhere.

    Scientology is over, but it’ll stumble along until the last of its adherents go bankrupt.

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  7. edge says

    July 17, 2014 at 11:27 pm

    They don’t even pretend it’s voluntary now, do they? What kind of charitable organization (let alone one with tax-free status) sends invoices to their donors? If they are sending out letters to people who contributed money the previous week it isn’t hard to imagine how those letters read:

    ‘Thanks for last week’s gift, but that was last week. What have you done for us lately? Here’s how we think you can help THIS week. Any amount would be nice, but we strongly feel that any amount less than what you gave last time would be CI to COB, and you don’t want to be that, do you?

    Blows my mind. Thanks for posting this, Mike. I hope someone at the IRS is looking. If I donated blood to a hospital I don’t expect a letter demanding I give more blood the following week.

    Reply
  8. Doug Parent says

    July 17, 2014 at 9:24 pm

    Let me get this straight. According to these guys, Scientology organizations are not “Keeping Scientology Working” if the buildings are not up to “IDEAL ORG” Standards. Thats like saying the auditors certs mean nothing because the wall paper is the wrong color. If it’s not one thing it’s another with these goofballs.

    Reply
  9. Hiatus57 says

    July 17, 2014 at 4:20 pm

    I wish these money grabbing vulture pigs would W/C the meaning of “GI” and “Fundraising”.

    GI ( there is no other route to this than via CF. LRH) usually involves money paid = books, tapes, meters, courses, or auditing.

    Fundraising is donations and what you get for this and I have seen this with my own eyes is a bloody great overdecorated poor taste empty building.

    I know which I prefer.

    Oh how many of these OT’s on this committee get 10% of all this dosh paid in by the clubbed seals?

    This truly is the worst money making cult of all time and no longer has anything to do with the writings and discoveries of LRH.

    Mr Dwarf Mismanage you truly are the most evil being that ever walked (er I mean crawled with those tiny legs) on this planet.

    You aren’t very good looking either are you?

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    • hei88008 says

      July 17, 2014 at 6:06 pm

      Dear commenters can you PLEEEASE stop being sooo counter-CI??? 😉

      Let them play THEIR game and let them feel/be important in their bubble.
      Let’s grant Beingness to those BIG BEINGS!
      t has something to do with Flow 3.
      Let them have their wins!
      Let them BE/FEEL BIIIIG!
      GRANT IT TO THEM!!!!!!!
      But PLEASE DO NOT FORGET your personal power and strength.

      In the meantime go out and TALK to “wogs” and have a good time.

      The very moment when you are so lucky to have PERSONAL knowledge from some BIG WHALES, that everyone who comes from the org/Int/IAS to their home to “pick up” some more money will be F*#$ed OFF politely and with high ARC… well, THAN YOU KNOW THERE IS HOPE AND JUSTICE!

      And PLEASE GRANT YOURSELF ALSO THE IMAGINATION, of what is about to happen, when more of those BIG WHALES start to realize, what is REALLY going on AND THAT THEY AREN’T THE ONLY BIG WHALES UDR!!!!

      Whitout getting into details and names yet… there will be some shit hitting the fans pretty soon. 🙂 (…and is already happening… :-))

      And those BIG WHALES WILL START/CONTINUE LOOKING around (as they are mostly men/women of good intent!) AND THEY WILL CONTINUE TO DONATE MONEY. And most surely they WILL HAVE TO ACT 1.1, until THEY HAVE THEIR PERSONAL CERTAINTY that they will NOT loose their eternity and friends – BUT THAN DM WILL START TO GET REALLY REALLY FRIGHTENED, BECAUSE HE KNOWS THAT MONEY IS NO REAL ISSUE TO THOSE BIG WHALES AND NEVER REALLY WAS…

      Let’s DM get away with all that money… BUT PLEASE DO NOT LOOSE THE PERSPECTIVE!!!

      It happened perhaps already a couple of times to all of us – but just look at the history.

      What happend to the Catholic Church?
      The inquisition?
      All those dictators?
      Tyranns?
      Hitlers, Napoleon & Stalins?

      IN THE LONG RUN THEY ALL LOST.
      ALL OF THEM – DESPITE THEIR AMASSED MONIES ETC. THEY LOST EVERYTHING!

      So please let DM continue getting his OWN ETHIC IN AND PUSHING HIMSELF DOWN THE CHUTE HARDER/FASTER/BETTER THEN WE ALL CAN DO.

      Even LRH let his first organisations die and started something new…
      We (or those who want) will build something new – BUT THEN WE WILL HAVE THE SUPPORT OF THOSE BIG WHALES WHO HAVE COGNITED!

      Nice perspective, heh… ?

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      • Archie 10 says

        July 17, 2014 at 9:27 pm

        You will have the support of the whales who’ve cognited?

        Not necessarily.

        People change and it’s going to be very, very difficult to find enough points of agreement to build a lasting post-CofS Scientology organization

        Earlier in this thread someone wrote that the indie scene is alive and well. It’s a claim I often see, but not one I’ve seen any evidence for.

        The Indie 500 has still not reached its target after many years. I signed it when it started, but my views have changed and I wouldn’t sign it now.

        Milestone2 is trying to draw a line in the sand by rejecting critical examinations of LRH and his work. That’s how they were born, by rejecting and nattering about Marty and the free speech on his board. It’s a version of the Amish approach – refusing new viewpoints and data, rejecting people who have those ideas, and with the flock always at the mercy of the leaders.

        It worked when LRH could research/try out/make up new stuff to keep it all going. The same approach can’t work with (a) no LRH and (b) instant access to the internet via everyone’s pocket cellphone.

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      • Ken says

        July 18, 2014 at 12:05 am

        hei88008, very nice perspective !!!

        Reply
      • KFrancis says

        July 18, 2014 at 9:36 am

        Archie 10, There are plenty of places to go to do “critical examinations” of LRH. Lana and Milestone Two don’t have any obligation to anyone to be “open to all viewpoints”. I support Lana’s decision to create a place for those who are tired of the LRH bashers and tech haters. It’s her blog and it will either survive or fail on its own terms.

        ESMB will give you all kinds of room to voice your opinion on how bad LRH was and how worthless Scientology is. Does Milestone Two have to become another ESMB?

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      • Archie 10 says

        July 19, 2014 at 5:01 am

        K. Francis:
        Lana is free to have an organization and to set the rules for her own board, just I am free to discuss them. Despite the straw men in your comment to me, I am not opposed to either LRH or to independent Scientology.

        Reply
  10. flyonthewall says

    July 17, 2014 at 3:57 pm

    Check it out – http://www.mysanantonio.com/news/local/article/Court-rules-Scientology-leader-won-t-have-to-5628557.php#photo-5629037 . Our esteemed proprieter taking care of business in a TX courtroom! You won this round Mr. Scabby but it’s not over yet!

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  11. flyonthewall says

    July 17, 2014 at 2:38 pm

    Obviously Miscavige is a misanthrope and a sociopath with no regard for the survival of the tech he is entrusted with but I think there is a sane and logical reason for the shift to pure fundraising. My theory is…legally, fundraising is a safer activity than selling services.

    Think about it, with the exception of the Garcias and Headleys most all the suits against CoS originated from people being damaged by the “tech” and/or not getting what it promises. If CoS largely stops delivering a product that leaves them open to lawsuits and instead focuses on taking donations, which are largely insulated from lawsuits, then they are in a much safer position legally.

    I listed the benefits as I see them of fundraising instead of delivering services below.

    1. In terms of exposure to lawsuits, donations are a MUCH safer bet than delivering services. Yes, the Garcia case is over donations but time will tell how that will pan out.

    2. The relentless push for donations has shrunk the flock so that the only remaining members left are those who are so mentally/emotionally cowed they wouldn’t dream of bringing a lawsuit as a result of the toxic token services they do still deliver or for any reason for that matter.

    3. Fundraising doesn’t require investment in people for training etc.

    4. Fundraising creates the illusion of momentum. An obviously weak one but effective enough for the remaining sheeple.

    5. The obvious necessity of having a warchest of cash available to pay the literal army of lawyers and PI’s that keep the wolves at bay.

    6. Keeping Miscavige and a chosen few at the top in the style and comfort they are accustomed to cannot be left out.

    Reply
    • Foolproof says

      July 17, 2014 at 4:53 pm

      Very good analysis flyonthewall! Says it all in a few sentences.

      Reply
  12. Hingle McCringleberry says

    July 17, 2014 at 2:26 pm

    Another adventure in english vocabulary! “Our Affluence is our new expectancy.” -Quinn “Q-Tip” Tauffer

    Did he really mean ‘expectation’? The word ‘expectancy’ simply means hoping that a certain situation is going to turn out in a specific (usually positive) way. So what he’s literally saying is ‘we hope that all of these things we’re up to will result in a condition of Affluence’, which I’m pretty sure doesn’t convey the same tone this statement was meant to have.

    Unlike most of the linguistic shenanigans from the Co$, however, this one has a potentially dark Freudian slip aspect, assuming that Q-Tip actually knows what the word means and isn’t just a dumbass that thought it sounded cool. In behavioral analysis, Expectancy Theory describes the situation in which a person chooses a behavior or action based solely on the expected outcome and ignoring other considerations. For example, if my motivation this morning was to get as much cash in hand today as possible, I might decide to knock over an armored car, provided I thought I could be successful. Expectancy decisions wouldn’t take into account things like it being illegal, people might get hurt in the process, etc.- just that the best possible outcome would be achieved. So, while I hope he was just trying to slip in a $10 word to pad his ego, if he chose the word on purpose it basically means they’re admitting to chasing the Affluence and damn the cost. Considering their track record, that was going to happen anyway. If he knew it though, there’s your proof positive that the hype and the drama is not only bullshit, but that a lot more people are in on the scam beyond DM and his immediate cadre.

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  13. gato rojo says

    July 17, 2014 at 2:24 pm

    “A most important datum from LRH is Having a basic purpose and doing something toward it.”

    Sure, that would be true, if you weren’t allowed to read information from others. If LRH is the only place you read this from then yes, he’d seem really smart to have stated this.

    But after I left and started reading work of other successful business people and other leaders of good causes, non-profits, etc., they ALL say this!

    I’ve seen overelapping ideas like this all over, yet the LRH administrative theories are supposed to be followed to the letter and in doing so it’s always “what would LRH do,” thus making all the ideas his alone. Then you don’t see anything else from any other writers so to you it IS his alone. And off you go, around and around in another circle jerk.

    It’s a huge fault in his own thinking to publish something like the Data Series, where one of the important ideas is to do comparisons, yet in his own policy steer people away from comparing his own stuff to other philosophies, religions, administrative practices…..you name it.

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  14. SILVIA says

    July 17, 2014 at 2:12 pm

    They are global, now they include an International demand for funds. The scam has no more ‘careful’ reach, now is ‘lets go wild and rip off as much money as you can from wherever in the world’.

    True, is out of sequence: I need a building and THEN the planet will be saved. But, the only ones being ruined are themselves by following the illogic’s of only collect money, the rest – as evidenced by their production stats – has nothing to do with Scn Inc. anymore. Poor blind should following a decadent leader.

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  15. KFrancis says

    July 17, 2014 at 1:21 pm

    The other day I read from someone that with 1.5 billion in the bank David Miscavige doesn’t need more money but that he now works to see that others don’t have any.

    This stuck with me and I’ve had to look at the idea that I may not understand how deep the depravity goes here. What this person wrote may be true, Dave doesn’t really need more money or assets, he is bloated with wealth. So having won the game of accumulating wealth then denying others theirs must be his sordid intention at this point.

    If this is true, it’s like a tick that attaches itself to a dog and once it’s gotten all the blood it needs to survive it continues to suck with the intention to extinguish the life of the dog though it doesn’t need to.

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    • thegman77 says

      July 17, 2014 at 1:43 pm

      My take on David The Gross is that he is an uneducated and very frightened individual who stumbled over an opportunity for power/money and, so far, has gotten away with it. His spiritual future has a very deep hole waiting. The Universe balances things. 🙂

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    • Cindy says

      July 17, 2014 at 2:00 pm

      I think you may be onto something, Kevin. It is hard to confront that much depravity and evil, but you’re right. DM has more than enough money, more than he’ll spend in the rest of his LT. So now the game is to bleed everyone else dry so that no one else has money.

      Mike, I loved the picture and caption at the start of this article. You come up with doozies that make us laugh. Thank you!!!!

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    • KFrancis says

      July 17, 2014 at 2:06 pm

      I wonder if someone were in the room while Dave was reading reports of the fundraising progress in the Valley, might they hear Dave say in a barely audible voice, “stupid bitch” when Dave lays his eyes on Nancy Cartwright’s name and her enormous donations.

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    • Valerie says

      July 17, 2014 at 2:12 pm

      If the others have money, they will be able to pursue him if he absconds with the money he already has, therefore he has to ensure he has decimated them both emotionally and monetarily so they cannot come after him.

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    • McCarran says

      July 17, 2014 at 3:28 pm

      K Francis, I think it’s hard for social personalities to really understand what the “intentions” are of this particular sociopath. I personally believe, with his sociopathic mindset, that HE has been conditioned to believe (by the accolades and “yes, sir” of others over the last three decades) that he is entitled to be revered, entitled to power, entitled to infallibility, entitled to KNOW. I don’t think it has anything to do with money/power in and of itself. These are just by products of what he IS. He is a soulless THING that has been created by true believers.
      That is my psychobabble for the day.

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    • Foolproof says

      July 17, 2014 at 4:47 pm

      Hi K Francis – I think now a major part of why he continues this line (of fleecing) is keeping his main lieutenants (Regges, OTCs, COs involved in reg cycles etc. and basically anyone who makes a living (sic) from the 10% commission scam) – with his program. If he changes tack and starts doing something else (like er, auditing and training) then he more or less loses their main reason for being the assholes that they are – the 10% commission on all donations, reg actions and book sales. So to keep his fortress of supporters ringing him around he can’t change tack now. He has to keep them on board – apart from the idiots and supplicants who don’t think (who support him) they are the only ones that are maintaining his power base.Saying that I would think that he also sewn up the corporate legal scene decades ago that prevent anyone else taking over, which Mike has no doubt covered elsewhere and before. The only way then is to strip the Orgs of public and staff but he is ironically the one doing that. The field are only providing a prop for those who leave in terms of support, and of course – auditing and training – those long lost products of Scientology orgs.

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  16. Gerhard Waterkamp says

    July 17, 2014 at 12:45 pm

    “We changed the International demand for GI. We are inducing more activity and more fundraising internationally. …”

    ROFL. The church of fundraising is now going 100% on purpose. This is hilarious. No wonder the attendance is down. The ones that see the signs on the wall pack their wallets and run.

    The way this is stated without any effort to hide it, maybe an indication DM is preparing for the endgame: Squeezing the last drop of money out of the remaining blind ones before he takes off with the Freewinds and a real estate holding into International waters…..

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    • thegman77 says

      July 17, 2014 at 1:40 pm

      Mene mene tekel upharsin!

      “The writing on the wall”, or “the handwriting on the wall”, or “the writing is on the wall” or “Mene Mene”, is an idiom for “the future is predetermined”, and is generally implied that a bad event is imminent.

      I wonder what that bad event (or series of them) might be?

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    • zana says

      July 17, 2014 at 6:26 pm

      “…maybe an indication DM is preparing for the endgame: Squeezing the last drop of money out of the remaining blind ones…”

      That seems to fit perfectly, Gherhard. !!

      Reply
  17. Ken says

    July 17, 2014 at 12:42 pm

    It looks like it’s getting hard to spew BS faster than Co$ is imploding.

    It must be a gleeful hectic place these days. No product and ridiculous money demands. It’s no wonder so many insiders are on the fence.

    I wouldn’t be surprised if a large majority of public were really doubting Co$. People do talk at home, in bed, while making breakfast, ect.

    Listen up sheeples, You are in a PTS Situation. Just stop supporting the insanity. Stop agreeing with non-survival actions. Hate to be the one to break it to ya, but management hasn’t a clue what they are doing. Davie and his cronies just are afraid of losing YOUR support !!!

    IMHO, You could just walk, and be a lot better off. The ball is truly in your court.
    Good luck!!!!!!!!!!!

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  18. cre8tivewm says

    July 17, 2014 at 12:18 pm

    Volunteer hours “down ever so slightly from 383 to 283.”
    -26% is ever so slightly?

    I wouldn’t have given it a second thought except for the obvious attempt to thought – stop.

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    • Valerie says

      July 17, 2014 at 2:14 pm

      The funny thing about the “ever so slightly” comment inserted in there is that I probably would have skimmed right over the hours without even noticing the numbers, but it was the “ever so slightly” that drew my attention to the numbers. They put a bright red flag on the fact that their numbers were not ever so slightly down by trying to misdirect people into believing they were.

      Reply
      • ME says

        July 17, 2014 at 4:51 pm

        I think it may just be a typo and it was meant to read “383 to 382.75”, as that would be slightly down.

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  19. Kim Quigley says

    July 17, 2014 at 12:09 pm

    Can you imagine LRH only letting orgs deliver the Bridge “correctly” if their building was big enough? This nonsense has to stop.

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  20. VolunteerMinisters (@VolunteerMins) says

    July 17, 2014 at 12:07 pm

    It’s all about money with these filthy fucking criminals. Always. Human rights crimes, massive frauds, their “NarCONon” frauds killing people… fucking filthy parasites!

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    • Foolproof says

      July 17, 2014 at 4:34 pm

      Yep – correct tone level towards these filching criminals, although “filching” as such implies petty theft, which this is not. They have stolen and perverted the whole Scientology religion and subject and that is the most valuable commodity there is.

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      • w. martin says

        July 17, 2014 at 11:26 pm

        They’ve stolen money, people’s lives and sanity. The real theft. Scientology, in hubbards own words, is just “blue sky”.

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    • thegman77 says

      July 18, 2014 at 11:45 am

      Very low toned humans. 🙁

      Reply
  21. Potpie says

    July 17, 2014 at 11:47 am

    The true All Stars of Scientology are not affiliated
    with the current COS.
    This group does not come close.

    Reply
  22. Draco says

    July 17, 2014 at 11:43 am

    OTC seems to be bleeding members; attendance down by 1/3. Looks like some people can take only so much blatant grab for bucks. “Valley is the most important Org in all of Scientology. It is the solution for the youth in Los Angeles.” Why would the youth not go to any of the other LA Ideal Orgs that are already open? Why would people even believe this crap?
    Seriously, it seems they are not even trying to make sense of what they are saying.

    Reply
  23. Old Surfer Dude says

    July 17, 2014 at 11:41 am

    You’re not going to believe this, but, I’m so shocked, I have nothing to say, except MEST tech never worked and never will work. McCarran, I answered your last question in the previous post. Thanks for reminding me!

    Reply
    • McCarran says

      July 17, 2014 at 3:34 pm

      OSD, thanks for answering my question about Jesus. I’m glad to read that he has a sense of humor.

      Reply
  24. hgc10 says

    July 17, 2014 at 11:40 am

    From the Department of Useless Observations:

    – Austin Nickels … can see the decisiveness of the OTC members
    – Mr. Lundeen … said I have felt the Valley cause a rumble around here.
    – Valley is the most important Org in all of Scientology.
    – A most important datum from LRH is Having a basic purpose and doing something toward it.

    Something you can sink your teeth into:

    – At current invoices of $270,000, we must change something in order to get there!

    Here’s the change I recommend: Get the hell out of there!

    Reply
  25. McCarran says

    July 17, 2014 at 11:38 am

    This whole email makes me cry over the loss of the Scientology I got into and a loss of the innocence in believing it could have done so much good.

    Reply
    • thegman77 says

      July 17, 2014 at 1:34 pm

      No loss. It’s alive and well in the indies.

      Reply
      • Odd Thomas says

        July 18, 2014 at 5:20 pm

        Thegman77 — you’re right, it is alive and well in the Indies. Yet, it was alive and well in 1972 when I got in, and everything about SCN – its people, its tech, its spiritual presence, were all evolving, and becoming something very cool. Now … it’s all just glitz. An expensive boondoggle, where empty rooms wait expectantly and the ghosts of old staff walk the halls at night, wondering what went wrong.

        Sorry — it’s just my lament for what could have been, slipping through. I saw such potential, felt it for years. Now, all of this altered activity is just a warped version of Groundhog Day. Each morning at 6:00 am, the members of the Valley OTC awaken and start their new day as they ended their last, thinking – why is it never enough?

        Odd

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        • Cindy says

          July 20, 2014 at 4:30 am

          good comment Odd Thomas

          Reply
    • Bobbo says

      July 17, 2014 at 1:57 pm

      Isn’t that the damn truth! Loss of innocence would be the perfect term for what happened to most of us. Not such a bad thing, once one wakes up and stops the delusions of grandeur. I am reading “The Sociopath Next Door.” I highly recommend it for everyone who has ever been in the COS.

      Reply
      • thegman77 says

        July 18, 2014 at 11:42 am

        Indeed a terrific book. And I’m now well into another book by Dr. David R. Hawkins, author of “Power Versus Force: The Stairway to Enlightenment,” a marvelous work. This one is subsequent to that but includes the same “scale of entlightenment”, similar to Hubbards “tone scale”. A very worthy read, IMHO

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    • Foolproof says

      July 17, 2014 at 4:30 pm

      Yes I am with you on that McCarran. Don’t worry – we will get it back. One day. Don’t know when but we’re all working on it.

      Reply
    • Carcha says

      July 18, 2014 at 1:59 am

      It is alive and well, but a bit mangled from all the attacks from various sources. Many, many, times in the course of human history, this a weird thing happens, really, that someone comes up with a fact, and it seems like half the world goes into a some sort of mad dog frenzy to absolutely deny it. A new fact takes a bit of time to grasp. There is the necessary observation of it, then the readjustment to realign things correctly. Scientology is as alive as individuals understand it. That understanding comes in bits and pieces on a gradient like any other subject.

      The loss of a Malaysian Airlines jet over the Ukraine is an interesting study. Some individual reporters (most people’s only source of information) are trying to get the facts down right, first, comparing and conferring, before arriving at conclusions. But in the turmoil of trying to get the facts right, there are the assignations of “who did it” even before knowing the facts of what happened. The job of reporting has been around for a long time, and there are a lot of rules and oversight, but still you see competing news agencies using different terminologies, and trying to get the better story, and you have sources twisting facts around to what they perceive as their best interests. The facts of the story will come out, but it will take some time to sort out.

      The fact that man is a spiritual being isn’t a new fact. Maybe the shocking new fact – the basic – of Scientology is that “life” is “your” responsibility. That applies to everyone.

      Reply
  26. Robin says

    July 17, 2014 at 11:33 am

    Volunteer hours are “ever so slightly down”?? There’s a 100 hour difference! I can’t help but hope that means some are coming to their senses. It’s heartening to see attendance down as well. Gonna be real magic to up the ante from $270K to $1.5 million. (Nancy Cartwright, hang onto your hat!)

    Reply
  27. NOLAGirl says

    July 17, 2014 at 11:29 am

    “Captain AOLA said, as a baseball fan, this group is like an All Star Team!”

    Major League Baseball is not amused.

    Reply
  28. Valerie says

    July 17, 2014 at 11:26 am

    OK, the first and most obvious comment to anyone reading this. What does any of this have to do with spirituality?

    “Int fundraising is at highest in 7 years.”

    Fundraising – always a very spiritual activity, especially highest ever fundraising.

    “Target is to beat last week with $1,500,000 invoiced!”

    So they invoice you now? I thought if you did a fundraiser, people wrote a check. Now they write an invoice and then what, they can sue the person who didn’t pay the invoice? That’s gotta be all sorts of illegal on several levels.

    “Valley Org has the most $million weeks. Added effort is needed now. Keep your eye on the mountain. Persist.”

    Sad, just sad.

    “At current invoices of $270,000, we must change something in order to get there! Today (Tuesday 8 July) there are 127 status increases and 400 individual donations for the week.”

    Invoices, it just makes me nervous to read that. What? What?

    “Our affluence is our new expectancy.”

    In what world does that make sense?

    “OTC members went into production sending out letters and invoices to last week’s donors!”

    Once again – invoices. And last week’s donors are automatically invoiced – wow! I guess if you donated once, you donate for life??? Well, stupid me, yes, that’s the way it works in the Church of Miscavology.

    “Gross Income $964,360”

    We all know that at least $400,000 of that was from Bob and Kathy Welch donated at least $50,000 and Nancy Cartwright at least $350,000. But I guess if they want to make it sound like they have a lot of $. . . .

    “# of Volunteer Hours – down ever so slightly from 383 to 282.75”

    Down ever so slightly????? In my world a 27% decrease in anything is NOT ever so slightly.

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    • thegman77 says

      July 17, 2014 at 1:33 pm

      Damn! you said everything I had to say. LOL Spot on!

      Reply
  29. William Randolph Hearst says

    July 17, 2014 at 11:20 am

    You can see the site of the OTC dinner here:

    http://www.frequency.com/video/irads-tuscan-house-clearwater-florida/100668848/-/Facebook

    Reply
  30. KFrancis says

    July 17, 2014 at 11:19 am

    “Number of Volunteer Hours – down ever so slightly from 383 to 282.75”

    No that is not a slight drop at all, that is a 26% drop and is pretty substantial.

    It doesn’t really matter though, just get another free million into the cash register and this can be glossed over and forgiven.

    Reply
  31. KFrancis says

    July 17, 2014 at 11:03 am

    “We changed the International demand for Gross Income. We are inducing more activity and more fundraising internationally.”

    They are not even shy about openly admitting they are moving further and further from LRH policy which clearly states not to engage in fundraising activities.

    This free money is like crack though; once you get hooked on it it’s very tough to go back to having to produce a product (Auditing and Training) in order to create an honest income.

    Dave and his crew are all addicts suffering from an insatiable lust for money.

    Reply
  32. DollarMorgue says

    July 17, 2014 at 11:03 am

    Love bomb the money out of them. Then leave them to die in the smoking wreckage of their lives.

    So grateful I get to keep what I earn. I share it with people I love and bona fide charities.

    Reply
  33. Cooper J Kessel says

    July 17, 2014 at 10:25 am

    “Note: The minutes are for the sole use of Valley OTC members. All members receive a copy. Please do not forward the minutes to anyone else for any reason.”

    ………………………especially those apostates over at Rinders blog who rip us a new asshole every time our minutes are leaked. God damn those guys. Now who in the hell is leaking those god damned minutes. It’s gotta be one of these loser OTCers. COB is going into the stratosphere over this sit and something has got to be done about it. It’s cutting into our GI and our whales cannot keep coughing up millions to backstop the rest of the losers. And how come those fuckheads over at OSA can’t get this thing handled? Shit ……..it’s Thursday. God damn it I hate Thursdays. Gottta find Nancy or my ass is going to be mothballs………………

    ‘thoughts from Quinn’

    Reply
    • threefeetback says

      July 17, 2014 at 1:35 pm

      Hey Dave, Re: FRAUD. Irving Picard, trustee for the Bernard Madoff Ponzi scheme, is still mopping up Bernie’s mess. He may well be selected to clean up your mess. The pay back will be based on the weighted amount of NEGATIVE benifits you have doled out to individuals throughout your reign of heinous inhumanities. The legal beagles are sniffing your ass to make the hard chrome steel case that guarantees you loose. When you pull your head out long enough to gasp a breath, be sure to pause long enough to kiss your ass goodbye.

      Reply

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