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Here is that “secular” WISE “non-church” organization doing what they do best.

Trying to sucker money out of people for scientology stuff.

Funny, they announced this “SMP” was going to completed and opened in the summer time.

Still not done.

Not because of lack of money — it was one of those projects that was a Miscavige folly that was always going to be paid for by scientology funds.

Almost certainly there is a typical Miscavige story behind the facade — he has been threatening to “close down” Gold for decades. Whenever he is pissed off about something he tells Gold “I am going to shut the place down” (and justifies this as being “on Source” as Hubbard threatened the same thing many times in various piques of disgust about how they were the “most unproductive and criminal organization” he had ever encountered).

One day he saw this place on the market and used it as a threat to Gold.

They didn’t react the way he wanted them to, whatever that may have been — failed to get the Highway that runs through the property closed because the noise disturbed the peace of his favorite late night drinking spot in his “Officer’s (read “Dave’s) Lounge). So he went ahead and then proclaimed “Sea Org Reserves is paying for this – and you had better not let your stats go down of cash in Reserves and make me wrong.”

So, they have come up with various lame fund-raising ploys to try and offset the cost of the SMP.

And everyone is expected to raise money for it — except the IAS — that is off-limits as they are “Dave’s” fundraisers and “Int Management” isn’t allowed to use them to “pad their stats.”

The surreal world of scientology is almost impossible to contemplate….

But it does result in things like this letter. Next you will see the WISE company that is being sued by the woman in California for forcing her to take scientology courses pronouncing to the court that WISE is a completely secular organization. Just like ABLE….

And just as a final note — this was mailed to a declared SP. Someone who has blocked all emails from any scientology related entity. They must really be desperate.

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Where would scientology be without Bob Duggan? No wonder they warehouse his unwanted children for him. He appears everywhere. I heard he is planning on forking over in excess of $25 mil for the L. Ron Hubbard Hall boondoggle. And he was just awarded the newest IAS status — the only who gets his photo taken with He Who Shall Not Be Named at the Annual IAS Gala dinner. He is now a “Patron Diamond Invictus” – and the slimy butt sucking presentation that went along with it is enough to make even the strongest man gag. But that is the subject of another post to come when I get around to covering the IAS event.

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Good old Kevin Wilson. A shill for scientology for decades now. A lot of people have fascinating stories to tell about working at Sterling Management in one of those businesses that proudly guarantees that they are run entirely on LRH Admin Tech and thus are the most ethical of organizations….

Hah.

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Comments

  1. What is this guy Kevin Wilson talking about? The “first global media center for our religion”. It appears that these Sciebots are not only in a bubble. They are in bubbles inside the bubble. What the hell is Golden Era Productions then. With their top of the line media facilities and awesome directors.
    They are other delusional, or unbelievable liars.
    Hey, I think they are both. I’ve come to the conclusion that this organization and these people are not worth a hill of beans. In fact a hill of beans is way more valuable.
    Mike, thanks for keeping me informed. Each new blog exposes the absolute idiocy of the cherch. If you have seen the film Idiocracy with Luke Wilson it becomes apparent that truth is stranger than fiction.

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    • It is a mess. It’s beyond crazy. It’s on the other side, it’s pathetic. I’m still gob smacked that there are still people like Duggan and co. I have no mercy for them.

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      • The Church of Scientology SPECIFICALLY the IAS can be compared to global warming.

        People driving around in their cars all day all over the globe, people flying all over the world in planes and even lawn mowers cause global warming. The East Coast of the United States is currently experiencing it. Today is December 13, 2015 and it was 67 degrees here in New York but it was “so nice out, everybody went out for a ride in their car”. Doesn’t that make sense? 🙂

        It is like saying “If you have lung cancer, a cigarette might help relax enough to confront the situation a little better”. Does that make sense? 🙂

        But, yet the Church of Scientology sounds like this all the time and it makes sense to somebody. Because here they are coming up with the money to pa for it by the millions of dollars. But fortunately it doesn’t seem logical to me. 🙂 I have never been more of an LRH supporter than I am now. I hope he does come back. And I hope I do get to talk to him…….. 🙂

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  3. The deeper one gets into the quasi-religion of Scientology, the harder it is to leave it. I well recall my own hijacked state of being while in the cult, and marvel at the machinations involved in my transformation into a Ron puppet. It took a seismic shift in my world to free myself from the years of thought control. Hubbard states that life is improved on a gradient. I would further posit that it is also destroyed by one.

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      • Hi James Morris, I liked your post. And then The Cheshire Cat keeps appearing and disappearing with that askew grin which reminds me of Ron. So glad those days & nights are over. Always, Ann.

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    • And unless you wisen up, you won’t or don’t get out. Actually, I’m not sure about that. You just need to open your eyes a bit.

      Being in a cult is like being addicted heroin. It’s akin to that, I’d say.

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  5. Oh, Gee, I’d love to make a large donation to SMP! Please call me right away at:

    1-866-973-2674

    Heh heh.
    (1-866-X-SEA-ORG)

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  6. It blows my mind that WISE has – what’s the word- the nerve, the chutzpah – to present themselves as secular and separate from Co$ in their promo, in their PR, in their marketing, and even in the contracts that WISE consultants sign, while at the same time pitching in to sell Emeters – Emeters, which are classified as “religious artifacts” of Co$ and their copywrights say that as well.

    And they see nothing ridiculous, noting ludicrous about this.

    This is could be equated with The World Institute of Catholic Enterprises (I made that up, no such group) purporting to help people in their businesses, stating in all their literature that they’re wholly secular and separate from the Catholic Church, while at the same time, selling statues of Mary and Jesus or rosaries or something.

    It blows my mind when I come across a person or a group that has this kind of gall.

    By the way, “Thou Shalt Not Shill” – very funny, Mike!”

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  7. What the flying hell.. EVEN I saw the bubble burst before then…. Then agqin I don’t have millions to blow away which won’t affect me…. Must be nice to “shill out” 25 millie and not have a care in the world… (WOMP-WOMMP-WOMMMMMP!) ***RICK in INDIANA***

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  10. If you’re like me you were wondering what status could be higher than “Elite Millennium Disseminator”? Boy was I amazed to find out there are three statuses above that! I’m prepared to do prostrations at the feet of an “Elite” but should I find myself in the blinding effulgence of an EPIC MILLENNIUM DISSEMINATOR I don’t know, should I pretend to drop dead? I hope I don’t have to actually drop dead but if that’s what I’m supposed to do…

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    • Well, in my world, Roger, there is a status called “Honorary Surfer Dude.” It’s when you’ve been surfing for 3 decades or more. And let me tell you, that’s quite an achievement! The putzes you’re talking about probably stay in the shallow end of pools let alone venture into the surf.

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      • Hi Ann, thanks. We all know the pleasures of having some little thing that confers status on ourselves, don’t we? Some of us are proud of the Master’s Degree we have in Spelling or of our reputation for making good guacamole so what’s wrong with showing off your certificate as an Epic Millennium Disseminator? Just so long as you don’t let normal intelligent people see it.

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          • OMG!!!! I mean, I had heard whisperings about the EBNEM, but, I never thought it was true. It always seemed like an old wives tale. And here you are, Alfred, telling me it actually exists! I…..I…..I guess I’m at a loss for words……I’m too overwhelmed.

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        • The greatest title you can get out of the COS is Suppressive Person.

          It makes you moar powerful than all those fancy OTs – just a few SPs are capable of cancelling all those OT superpowers somehow. OTs are so scared of SPs they wont even talk to them. And it cannot be bought, it can only be earned through achievement.

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  11. “When a mass movement begins to attract people who are interested in their individual careers, it is a sign that it has passed its vigorous stage; that it is no longer engaged in molding a new world but in possessing and preserving the present. It ceases then to be a movement and becomes an enterprise.”

    The True Believer by Eric Hoffer

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  12. Before they clear the planet, they need to clear their database first, how in the hell they send letter to declare SP people, that means their database regarding members is a mess and complete chaos, they don’t even know who is in who is out, who is current, who is still drinking the Kool-Aid who is spitting it out, etc etc, I bet they are still using those PC’s with a giant hard drive and a giant monitor on the desk, from the 90’s

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    • The problem is that, considering their known backward tendancies in actual, real world technology, that database must be mounted in some legacy language no one sane uses anymore, which means they’d have to find THE guy/girl insane enough to keep a working knowledge of that language and pay them somewhere around $500 an hour to do anything with it.

      IF that person agrees to work for them, because there are plenty of banks with the same problem to provide them with quite a lot of employment for the rest of their careers.

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  13. Aha, but Sterling Management is shrinking too. They used to have a whole 2 story building for the company, now they share it with a couple os Lawyers’ offices and the Org Board that used to be at the entrance…poof, it disappeared, its gone.

    Collapsing as the criminal empire they support.

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    • The scn world is in such a mess, but it can go on like this for some time yet. There’re enough dopey people still in the bubble who lap it all up. There needs to be some catastrophic, noisy, riotous explosion of truth before they’ll wake up. And that still may not do the job.

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    • Robert, this cult has absolutely no SHAME. None. The cult and Salvation Army are at polar opposites. Salvation Army does wonderful things for people. The cult enslaves people. And much, much more….

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  15. Since when has a commemorative edition of an emeter symbolized policy? WTF?

    These people really are waaaaaaay down that rabbit hole.

    So they actually removed the green vols from the orgs, classify them as squirrel editions, and now Kevin Wilson is announcing that it’s a symbol of policy to pay 8 grand for a meter that’s worth about 400 bucks?

    Kevin, you are going to be quite amazed to discover that you are in a cult.

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    • “way down the rabbit hole “.

      I couldn’t agree with you more. Alice in Wonderland wasn’t half as crazy.

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    • Also, according to Blown for Good, the e-meter didn’t cost $40, let alone $400. I think he estimated its true value at something like five dollars for the internal hardware.

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    • Yes that was my first thought – WTF! What does Policy have to do with an E-Meter? Seems DM should dig out the PRD and KTL and get all his staff through it so they can think in concepts. But of course it will never happen as he doesn’t want anyone being able to think around him, let alone do anything (about him). Church Promo has slipped down to the level of disassociated mish-mash. I suppose the numbskulls still in there “see it” though and will fork out some bucks to divert attention from themselves in the hope that their real overts (utter betrayal of the subject) will continue to be missed by the useless confessional auditors now on staff.

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    • As next step we will see a “commemorative edition of an emeter” made out of wood –
      FINALLY EXACTLY the one, which LRH always intended to get into broad public hands. 😉

      http://tinyurl.com/LRH-E-METER

      Just think of it… a MARK Ultra Super Quantum IX in a wooden Mark V E-Meter cover!
      BUT THIS TIME R-E-A-L-L-Y WITH A-L-L THE TECHNOLOGY IN IT THAT
      LRH always wanted every Scientologist to have!!

      Do you get that special feeling of how it was to be audited personally by LRH? WOW!

      Think of it and LOOK for yourself.

      Just to make sure, that THESE LRH instructions ARE TAKEN VERY SERIOUSLY by DM
      please check and verify by yourself this part of this piece of ‘hidden-data-line’ LRH-Tech:

      ————————————————————————————–
      “…
      SO THIS IS SECRET.
      …
      [The first mechanical aide] is reduction of charge by grounding.
      …”

      Source:
      L.Ron Hubbard handwritten
      http://tinyurl.com/1st-aid-original

      Transcribed for easier reading
      http://tinyurl.com/1st-aid-txt

      1st hand experiences by ex-Sea-Org-member piloting this 1st aid & working w/ Mr. Captain David Miscavige
      http://tinyurl.com/1st-aid-DM

      Other experiences by ex-Sea-Org-members
      http://tinyurl.com/1st-aid-Sea-Org

      ————————————————————————————–

      When you have come SO FAR, than you are probably also willing to look at THIS part:

      ————————————————————————————–

      “…
      The fifth [mechanical aid] is another matter.
      It is the fifth [aid] we want to finish this step of the “mechanical aids project”.
      If we spring any of this before I can demonstrate and we can manufacture and supply,
      the squirrels will ruin the entire show with unworkable gimmicks re Howes.

      IT IS ALSO SECRET THAT THE 5th AID, THE ONE REQUESTED HERE
      WILL NEVER BE RELEASED GENERALLY AND MUST REMAIN SECRET.
      …
      Five is the induction in the insane of instantaneous hypnosis and theta clearing
      while tranced – very effective but very hard to do without a mechanical aid.
      The work I am doing here is assisted by the fact that in Spain I have an unlimited
      freedom to practice on the insane.
      …”

      Source:
      L.Ron Hubbard handwritten
      http://tinyurl.com/5th-aid-original

      Transcribed for easier reading
      http://tinyurl.com/5th-aid-txt

      ————————————————————————————–

      Now…
      Do you have any idea, why ONLY IDEAL ORGs can deliver the Standard-Tech as LRH always intended?

      Do you have any idea, Why it took so looooong for SUPERPOWER to be constructed etc?
      And please DO NOT forget what LRH had published himself!

      “…
      Super Power will be delivered at Saint Hills within the next 6 weeks…”

      Ron’s Journal 30 1978—The Year of Lightening Fast New Tech
      LRH ED 301 INT 17 December 1978
      (Tech Vol. XI, p. 383)
      …”

      Source:
      L. Ron Hubbard
      http://tinyurl.com/ST-HILLS-LRH-ED-301-INT
      http://tinyurl.com/ST-HILLS-SUPERPOWER
      http://tinyurl.com/ST-HILLS

      So, Mr. Captain David Miscavige, there is a lot MORE to be done, until YOU
      can state that you are fullfilling EXACTLY LRH’s intentions! S-T-A-R-T !!!

      /end of comment/ 🙂

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  16. The new “wise.directory” site lets you see the RSVPs for upcoming WISE events.

    Let’s see, 2/11/2016 » 2/18/2016 WISE International Freewinds Convention 2016

    All RSVPs
    Luis Montalvo
    WISE International
    RSVP Comments: N/A
    Attending: Yes

    William Moroney
    RSVP Comments: N/A
    Attending: Maybe

    Oh yeah, that’s going to be packed. Better reserve now!

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    • And here’s their list of latest members. I bet that changes like glaciers before climate change.
      T. Warner
      A. Mulligan
      E. Eropkin
      M. Farland
      B. Locatelli
      B. Yan
      D. King
      M. Scheerens
      B. Boling
      E. Godley
      L. Edrich
      D. Polk
      M. Kirkland
      A. Giannoni
      A. Felus
      B. Flindt
      J. Schwartz
      J. Diaz Afanador
      D. Maltese
      S. Galvano
      H. Dia
      M. Cusumano
      C. Johonnesson
      N. Zapadioti
      B. Holz
      G. Farlekas
      L. Caramanna
      S. Soenmez
      D. Strankman
      A. Marzi

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      • Hey, RM! Do you think I can get in? I mean, they call it WISE for a reason, right? I’m figuring everyone coming must be in the genius range. But, I’ll probably stick out like a sore thumb intelligence WISE. Such is my lot in life…..

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        • Old Surfer Dude,

          Maybe off topic, BUT:
          Question, Who called David Miscavige “The little SATAN?”
          Answer, His Mother.
          This is a Jeopardy Question ( not really but soon )

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          • Why am I not surprised to hear that DAVID “LET HIM DIE” MISCAVIGE’S mother called him “The little SATAN.” But, I guess tiny Davy is just taking after Hubbard who declared himself to be Lucifer. Two evil individuals who will and are, going down in INFAMY.

            Thanks for the heads up, Jose!

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            • I found this on Marty Rathbuns site.
              Where D.M. forced his parents to divorce.
              Right when I thought I was shock proof some other
              unthinkable tid bit about the COB surfaces.

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              • Oh yeah! I heard about that long ago! He also MADE is Dad join the SO. I mean, this dwarf just takes the cake. There’s NOTHING that’s below him. Nothing.

              • Laughter! Still laughing! Oh my, now that’s some funny shit! What a way with words you have, Alfred. I love it!

            • Does that sound familiar to you or ring a bell???

              “…
              Does size matter? Is bigger better?
              That’s no small question to Tom Little — the circus midget with giant dreams.
              Tom may be king of the midgets, but he’s got far grander ambitions —
              to become the muscleman at the top, the ringmaster.

              Now, drawing on some dark ancient secrets and mystic texts, he’s about to get his wish.
              Imagine a pint-sized Mickey Rooney on steroids, trading up into a body like Burt Lancaster’s.

              Then imagine paying the biggest price of all….

              Assuming another man’s identity, Tom discovers he must also take on his sins, debts, and enemies.
              He may be living large — but now there are those who want to make him pay for the big man’s sins.
              …”

              Source: L. Ron Hubbard 🙂
              http://tinyurl.com/DM-OW-MWH
              [click on ‘Read more’ for full text]

              or this one:

              “…
              Circus dwarf Little Tom Little is the king of midgets, loved by crowds and carnival folk alike.
              Only he doesn’t just want to be a bigger circus star, he wants to be just like the circus’ tall
              and imposing leader. Trouble begins the moment that a set of ancient books containing the secret of switching bodies finds its way into Tom Little’s tiny hands.
              When he magically trades his small frame with that of the circus chief, finds himself in a giant-sized heap of trouble his craving for height has landed him smack in the center ring surrounded by forty savage cats!
              …”

              Source: also LRH – but this time it’s from ‘THE GOLDEN AGE’! 😉
              http://tinyurl.com/MIDGET-SOURCE-GOLDEN-AGE

              Noone could have put it better then Source… HipHipHip Hurray!

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          • Newcomer, don’t give OSD any ideas – I think WISE falls into the following description:

            In the American Mafia, made man is a term for a fully initiated member of the Mafia. Other common names for members include man of honor (Italian: uomo d’onore), goodfella, and wiseguy.

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          • Well, Coop, it’s tough being me. I mean, I not the sharpest nife…..ahhhhhh….I mean knife in the Chandelier! For the longest time I thought ping pong balls was a Chinese social disease…Hey! I didn’t know!

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            • Time for a trip out to the toolshed OSD where you can grab most any tool and find it could use a tune up! That of course is especially true in Hemet this time of year.

              Yo Dave,
              It’s time for a trip down memory lane good buddy. Cruise on over to Hollwood Blvd and order Your usual faire …… I heard the LFBD item on your list is to SCOHB! Take it to a floating TA captain…,!

              One more thing Dave………… since the red on white and green on white are now considered squirrel ………….are You going to reissue for the new years event package and pull off a buy now get fucked later deal …….. or is their some other plan?

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              • “Yes, there is another plan. i intend to expand The Hole 47x to handle once and for all the CI I have on my lines.” COB

              • No Coop, you got it right! “…pull off a buy now get fucked later deal.” But, regarding the cult, isn’t this SOP?

  17. Perhaps one of THE most difficult “shards” to get rid of is this one:

    LET ME HELP YOU!!! Because of years of scientology training AND years of whatever else we might have gotten involved with AFTER leaving — I find myself still thinking:

    OMG — this person’s life is a train wreck. I can SEE the wreckage up ahead due to 1) drug abuse 2) alcohol abuse 3) infidelity 4) slightly skewered business practices 5) obesity 6) anoxexia 7) workaholic 8) the list is almost endless — it makes up what most everyone is TRYING to “FIX” — be it therapists, herbalists, many different religions new age magazines and doctors etc

    Here’s the deal, in my opinion, help others often and with an open heart — IF THEY ASK FOR YOUR HELP —

    Otherwise you might as well just stand in front of a wall and shout — open sesame and see how far that gets you. Even shouting louder and louder until you fall on the floor exhausted … won’t open that wall.

    Just musings on this gorgeous fall day that seems almost like summer.

    Love,
    Windhorse

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  18. Miscavige!
    I just met a crook named Miscavige
    And suddenly that name
    Will never be the same
    To me
    Miscavige
    I just heard a speech by Miscavige
    And suddenly I found
    How horrible those sounds
    Can be
    Miscavige
    Say it loud and your brain’s decaying
    Say it soft and it’s almost like hazing
    Miscavige
    I’ll never stop mocking Miscavige

    (Apologies to Stephen Sondheim)

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  20. This is another channel to keep money flowing
    into David Miscaviges Bank account.
    John Lobb shoes , huge solid gold buttons for $5,000. tuxedo’s,
    catered meals 6 times a day with imported food, expensive cars,
    scuba vacations on the church cruise ship.
    This all takes money and WISE is one of these money sources.

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  21. Dear Planetary Dissemination Slaves,

    Herewith completed questionnaire:

    1. None

    2. See 1 above

    3. See 1 & 2 above

    4. See 1,2 & 3 above

    Name: Bob Duggan’s abandoned son’s foster-aunt

    Case Level: Clearly unclear about being certain that I am uncertainly Clear

    Years in Scientology: Too long

    Training level: SP Cum Laude

    Occupation: OSA Irritant Extraordinaire

    Address: Same planet you’ve failed to clear

    Phone: 555- EXSCNSP

    email: [email protected]

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  22. Hmm, seeing that it is the World Institute of Scientology Enterprises, I would think it would be hard-pressed to say there is no affiliation. And of course we all know that it is run by SO members housed in all the FOLOs. Yeah nothing to do with Scientology at all — nothing to see here, keep moving along.

    Epic Millennium Disseminators — wow now that is just…. epic.

    Limited edition — only 500 green — hmm, so that means enough for 10% of all scilons worldwide. Not very limited. Where do I send my 25 grand? Can I get one in purple/green paisley?

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    • Let’s do the math…per the WISE promo letter, Kevin Wilson is “the top Chairman and Owner of one of the top WISE consulting companies in the world…” and he feels every Scientologist who has benefited from using LRH Admin Tech should obtain this Commemorative Edition Meter.

      And yet, as you pointed out, freebeeing—per the fine print in the Planetary Dissemination promo piece—there are only 500 of these E-meters.

      Does that mean Kevin Wilson believes there are a maximum of 500 people who have benefited from LRH Admin Tech?

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    • That would be correct, Lurker. But, hey, it’s worth it! I mean, 50,000 times more accurate is a whole lot of accurate! I guess I could purchase two of them…or…head back to Hawai’i for a couple of months. Hmmmmm…what to choose….what to choose…

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        • Ann B, I miss my islands so very, very much! I hope we can move back someday…..

          Wishing you a very blessed Christmas and New Years! And may we be having this conversation next year!

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  25. Kevin, the green volumes have been replaced by green dollars. The only applicable policy for you to apply is GDMC (Get Dave Mo’ Cash). Time to wise up.

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    • Mo’ money, mo’ money, mo’ money (the chant the dwarf hears in his dreams). But, Alfred, I’m not to sure about WISEing up. I hear it’s a scam of biblical proportions.

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  26. There is so much data pouring into the world regarding the plasticity of our brains. Regarding memory. Yet almost everyone I’ve read does offer up a caveat to the HARD WIRING of our brains (mostly we are NOT hard wired) —

    Those who have been sexually abused and/or suffered severe trauma — some include being a member of a destructive cult as severe trauma. THOSE brains are “hard wired” and result in PTS(D)

    It’s a tough road OUT of scientology. Then an even longer tougher road OUT of the glass shards deeply embedded into our “brains” — and our minds

    My wish is that all of us so affected and inflicted and victimized (YIKES I USED THE V WORD — victim 🙂 — step just a tad over to the right or left or forward or backward to view … what IS …

    So thankful this blog and others exists as a mean to LEARN and watch … may 2016 bring to each of us a sense of growth and peace of mind.

    Love,
    Windhorse

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    • I always feel there is a significant distinction between saying someone has been victimized, and saying they are a victim. Most people have been victimized at some point in their life, in some way – though obviously some of us more than others. It’s ridiculous not to use the word victim in its proper context, to admit to having been harmed by another.

      But admitting that someone has been victimized should never paint them as a lifelong victim. If we accept that attitude, then we accept that being a victim carries a stigma; which places blame on the victim and not the one causing them harm.

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    • WH, spot on re the plasticity of the brain. The whole subject has been turned on its ear. I just read Bruce Lipton’s updated volume The Biology of Belief (10 anniversary edition). A gifted biologist and teacher, he takes you through the science which has been recently discovered re the brain…AND the mind. Marvelous reading. 4.5 stars on Amazon.

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      • I’m currently reading that book. I remember one scientist saying we are “Hard wired” to believe in religion (which I don’t).

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  27. The game of HELL. Join the church of scientology; move through the fires and the bowels of the underworld; kick aside loved ones and “co”workers; descend into an Int Management position and you too can stand right next to the Devil Himself, david miscavige. You win.

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  28. I have never entered or contacted a Scientology Church/Center/Org. About 25 years ago, I bought Dianetics out of curiosity. I did not make it past the first couple of pages. But because I purchased this book (the only book I have ever thrown in the trash), I am forever on Scientology’s mailing list. I tried everything: return to sender, writing a letter informing them they are wasting their resources on me, etc. The mailings decreased. Some years I received nothing. That changed, however, this year.

    I have received several glossy ads from the Cincinnati Scientology org this year. Yesterday, I received my first Holiday greeting card from Scientology with love from Jeanie and Chris an the Cincinnati org staff. I know none of these people. I also received a letter that any other organization in the country would have been embarrassed to send. The grammatical errors are abundant. Here is the letter word for word:

    Dear Lora,

    Wish you have a Merry Christmas and a Prosperous Coming Year!
    I see you bought a Dianetics book from us a few years ago, how have you been doing these years? How could I schedule a free session for you?
    Would you mind ask yourself how well you are surviving? How well your health, emotional and relationship you are handling?
    If you have any answer to above is “No”, please take a free personality test online in our website to find out which part of your personality holding you back from pursuing your dream? And I will assist you to find the solution by yourself.

    Sincere,
    Lily Gadbois

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    • OMG — I know everyone that gets that sort of letter thinks to themselves “Wow, Dianetics could make me as able and competent as the person that wrote this childlike drivel…”

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      • Good God, where do I start.

        “Wish you have a Merry Christmas and a Prosperous Coming Year!”
        “Wishing you a very Merry Christmas and a prosperous New Year!” Would be much better.

        “I see you bought a Dianetics book a few years ago, how have you been doing these years.”
        End your sentence at “ago.” Start a new one. Oh, and BTW, it was 25 years ago she bought the damn book! You folks MUST be desparate.

        Would you mind ASK yourself how well you are surviving?” What the fuck is wrong with you! Did they pull you out of the 3 grade to join staff? You never heard of “ing.”

        If you have any answer to above is “No,”……..For Christ’s sake, learn the English language! Is everyone at your Morgue as stupid as you?

        “And I will assist you to find the solution by yourself.” AHHHHHHHH!!!! This is almost too much to take! How the fuck can you assist her if she going to do it by herself? She left your cult 25 years ago. Again…25 YEARS AGO!

        As Mike posted, “childlike drivel.” It’s a wonder that you can find your ass with both hands..

        Ok…I’m done.

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        • It’s pathetic beyond words, OSD. I almost don’t want to throw it out. It’s a gem that should be framed and in a museum for failed religions!

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        • I suspect that Lily the letter reg is a poorly educated, low income, idealistic person who was regged to join staff with lots of bs promises, none of which are ever kept.

          She’ll work15 hour days for as long as her body and mind can hold out, after which she will break down, then leave staff, declared, bitter and disappointed.

          HCO views her as a 100% disposable human being.

          It always saddened me when I’d receive such poorly written letters, because the burnout trajectory was so very predictable, but in actuality it’s a blessing that Lily will learn the truth about Scientology long before many others will.

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          • Hi Len Zinberg, Your post is an excellent assessment of what may indeed happen. However once upon a time long ago, a different type of letter reg landed in Sea Org at Asho F.Four years she worked to make it all go right and then one dark night escaped as fast as she had arrived. Darn forgot to take sheets of my letterhead although I keep nothing of Ron now, not like I used to. I can still remember a lot of my SO Crazy journey! Always, Ann.

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          • Len, I wasn’t in nearly as long as you were. Out in ’82. But, what you just posted is 100% factual. Imagine how many staff are going to have to go through what you posted. Your post sent a chill down my spine. I’ve got to keep telling myself “I’m out” over and over again to get rid of the chill.

            Great post!

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      • As said it is childlike .. if you have something to say .. come to me we will handle that for you .. this is the childlike promoten line .. come to ME and WE will handle that .. that is scientology today .. WE will handle that ..

        It is not longer YOU will handle that .. only a child says WE will handle it .. but a child needs WE for his own survival ..

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        • Friend, that pharse, “We will handle that,” may very well go down in infamy. I mean, say someone was in for decades and finally leaves. This person could be in a store and some clerk may say, “We will handle that.” and the ex would go screaming out the door.

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          • Hi Friend, I think I want to clarify my comment. When I was first love bombed to join The Sea Org in 1974, it was ” come to me we will handle that for you ” in neon , splashed across the sky. And yes, the long months before I knew I had to leave and escape were based on the premises that we will handle it. Except the “on the outside”Intel group I had to deal with were something else. Always, Ann.

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      • It wouldn’t surprise me if this was written by some poor kid from another country that was brought over here to join this cult with promises of a better life. I read this and feel very sad.

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      • +1. McCarran is absolutely right! Before I got my refund from FLOG, I lawyered up! I got my check 5 days later.

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      • I was surprised (& still am,) to get off their list by writing back and saying I am not a scientologist and never would be, never would listen to anyone who claims to have all the answers and feel there is something sinister about any organization that arrogantly would say such a thing. I don’t care about your new beautiful buildings or how many smiling faces you can cram into a single brochure.
        They do look the same, one brochure to the next. You must be aware of that much. They also look expensive. This is your one chance to save an otherwise wasted tree: take me off your mailling list, otherwise you are contributing to the waste problem in America and making longer the list of things in the category of truth that you, The Church of Scientology, is willing to ignore under the ignorant assumption that it supports your (quite nefarious, apparently) cause. The very last thing I would do is join up or send money because another Joe Blow and his wife are posing with a smile on glossy paper right there behind your trademark, everybody talking about how happy they are, no real news or revelation in the entire publication or anything that would interest humanity, for that matter, what, over and over again! What a waste, and I am only one recipient. Send me one more brochure and I’m writing my congressman, sending him a copy of this letter and your rendition of bulk mail. Unlike you, I do not make false promises.
        And they did, take me off their mailing list, how about that.
        It may be the only time I was able to actually reason with them. It was our last direct correspondence.
        Back in the day, I never got time off to see mom or dad, not once, as life in the org was a perpetual emergency, but i did get off the mailing list.
        I wonder if it would work to just declare yourself a suppressive person. Thing about that is, I just don’t think that way…and it would feel just as uncomfortable openly declaring my self as a bold-faced liar. So, thanks Mac. I can see how the sound of threatening lawyers is something they would recognize,
        it does sound like the effective, easier card to play…

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      • I think another good way to get off the list would be to respond ‘thank you…I will forward this and all future mail to Mike Rinder for his blog…..keep the laughs coming!’

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    • Yow! I do get a E-Christmas card every year from an associate of Ayn Rand but that’s because I’m a paid subscriber to his online forum. And not word about money is ever mentioned. [And while we don’t actually worship the Dollar there is a reverence for it. 🙂 ]

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    • It’s Christmas time and I’m feeling charitable, so my guess is the letter writer is not a native English speaker.
      Or, was forced to drop out of school in the 4th grade to join the Sea Org.
      I am going to print out this letter and give it to my 5th grader to see how long it takes her to find all the errors.

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      • Laughter! Still laughing! Can’t stop! Whew! Ok, I’m calming down. Great post, Chee! Let us know how long it takes your 5th grader to find all the errors. I’ll give her 30 seconds or less and she should be done!

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    • Hi Lily, Getting yourself removed from Co$ mailing lists is easy and fun. All you do is get the BRE (Busness Reply Envelope) from the offending “literature”, put your name and address in it with the the notation TAKE ME OFF YOUR MAILING LISTS and tape it to a brick. It costs the Co$ about $40, since they are charged by weight. If they refuse to pay it, the P.O. won’t honor the other BREs. When I used to do it, the Post Office employees used to titter and laugh at the bricks, and would put them in a special place so everyone would see them. After a good laugh, they would get delivered. And charged for. And I must mention, INSTANT REMOVAL.

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    • Lori S., I found myself in your shoes several years ago. I extracted myself from the cult almost three decades ago and they finally found me. This was after many moves and changes of phone numbers. CREEPY, and I was PISSED. I started getting a shit ton of mail from over a dozen orgs and constant phone calls. I have been cult-mail free for almost a year now. This is what did it. First, forget trying to reason with them to get your name removed from their Central Files. That’s never going to happen. It’s policy (LRH gospel) to never remove a name from Central Files (this is where the potential money sources are listed). When it comes to phone calls, use modern phone tech like caller ID and voice mail to screen your calls. Never talk to them unless you feel like wasting your time. It’s easier to reason with a brick wall. (For a reference on the mindset you will encounter see just about any of the Regraded Being cartoon strips every Friday at this blog. He really nails it.) The mailings you receive are actually a blessing in disguise. Here is the silver lining to this dark cloud of disgust. Often these mailings have a postage paid business reply card in them. Use it to send free messages back to the cult. I would always list some of my favorite websites for their perusal, (Something Can Be Done About It, The Underground Bunker, Critical Thinker At-Large, Alanzo’s Blog, etc.). I always ask them questions about how they are doing, where’s your passport, when is the last time you talked to your parents, how’s your health, are you eating ok, are you getting enough sleep, are you doing what you signed up for, where’s Shelly, etc. Be creative, have fun and be respectful. The people sending and receiving this stuff aren’t the problem, they are suffering from a severe case of undue influence. Hopefully these communications with them will be enough to plant a seed of doubt and when the time is right they will have a place to turn for some real and accurate information about who and what they are involved with. At that time, we will welcome them to the world of cult-free living. Real freedom where all are free to live their lives as they choose unshackled by the false promises and counterfeit dreams (apologies to Jeff Hawkins) scientology offers.

      I have to say, I kind of miss getting the mailings. Now I don’t have the opportunity to ‘disseminate’ back to the letter regges. One must be careful what one wishes for.

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      • Thank you for the suggestions. I have never figured out how they got my mailing address when I purchased Dianetics from a now out of business book store. Thankfully, they never got my phone number. For years, the mailings they sent me went directly from the mailbox to the trash can. These days, though, I read them to see what their latest trick is to get people to buy what they are selling. The holiday post card is in color and has a picture of poor Jeanie and Chris on it. The letter I found to be just hysterical. I laughed when I read it! Do they not believe in basic proof reading? As an added bonus, I also received a copy of Expansion magazine. I cannot imagine why they spend this kind of money on someone who has made zero contact with them in over 25 years! I guess if they want to waste their dime, that is there business. I only hope my mail carrier does not think I am a delusional cult member! 🙂

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    • Hi Lori S, Unbelievable to me now, but years ago letter regging at Asho F I wrote many letters to one book Dianetics buyers. However mine were shorter and much more to the point than the mess you received. I would have written, Dear whoever, I see you bought DMSMH. Have you used this book in life? There are many more by Ron(I would have said LRH) that are incredible. Please tell me more about yourself.And that would be that.Sometimes I got replys back and sometimes not. But it is interesting to remember my first year on post I got many letters from Dianetics groups that had been formed in the fifties. Someone even sent me a lovely book of poetry with drawings about the ship I was on The Excalibur.Had to leave it behind when I escaped. So glad to be out and I am sorry you are bombarded with scio mail today. This cult does keep pounding it’s collective head into brick walls 24/7. Love, Ann.

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  29. This is extremely urgent!! It’s of vital importance!!

    Really?!? What is it?!?

    The same thing we’ve been doing for 65 years!! Get with it!! Sucker!!

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  30. Newbie question because I remember recently you posted that guy from WISE sending you that email. So wise claims to have no affiliation with COS but really is run by it like Narcinon and Crimnon?

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    • Run by it? What it means? LRH caused all the run .. but did he ever grasped really what he has said .. the only run in scientology is to run into confusion .. no way out ..

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      • As i see it, the only cat with no way out, for real, is
        dave (don’t-talk-to-me) misscabbage.

        The end will be premature, not at all pretty, and, as dictated by the unavoidable law of karma in this, the universe of cause and effect, quite isolated. That is the price of successfully selling a person on a platform of false salvation as a means of personal satisfaction.

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