Though I laughed I also learned something; yes, the cult’s paid shrink will definitely be coached to pronounce Laura completely sane.
And for the other, I laughed and also shuddered, rolling back how many reproving lectures I’ve received from staff members warning dire consequences about too much focus on “mest goals”. Like these two with their cigarettes (lol) one minute disclosing to one another about dynamics are collapsing, and the next, dressing down a guy who just go a promotion and a raise, as if they themselves are really succeeding in their lives, and as such are qualified to criticize.
The not-so-veiled make wrong I as a public would get from staff used to make me feel guilty for feeding, clothing and housing myself and for keeping in PT with my bills and keeping my credit from getting wrecked.
On the other hand, those who wrecked their credit and were financially irresponsible were given pats on the back when they flowed money they didn’t have to the org.
This is Suppressive!
Today, I realize that those lectures were from people who were not “making it go right”, but “faking it go right”.
Whew! Thank God and the Internet and the blogs and the angel over my shoulder that I am out of this Suppressive environment.
Hi Mike, I thought I would ask if this has happened to all you wonderful bloggers before.This is the 1st time it happened to me.As ASR there would always be some terrible entheta letters that would cross my desk.Not people being negative or swearing but much much darker & frightening murder u etc.I would go to Qual & originate but that was all I could do.I even had a stalker letter writer for years.Creepy! So I read a blog here from someone new & the second I read this I was ill I felt like this enormous black mass had covered my soul burst into tears & basically was so very down.I told myself just move on Ann it is probably just a troll but that did not work.So I put the IPad down & went outside.I told myself to be reasonable I’m free & in the sunshine but this took a few hours to shake off.Now being out perhaps I am so much more sensitive to those who I was exactly like when in The SO but it was very strange.All the other posts have never ever affected me like that.Yet I’m half glad it happened because now I can see how to handle this better if it ever occurs again.Thank you XO to all you good & kind beings.Ann B.
Amazing,how bad mystery loves company in the sea org. They litterally try and ruin good fortune of every public scientologist. It’s so sick! Why won’t a public just ask,why would buying something,saving money,paying bills,or pleasing the 4senses in any way be a crime? The many courses and seminar briefings all taught me how to be self reliant, focus on organization,self betterment and great ways on saving and how to grow wealth. So when I take action in this wealth of knowlage,I’m committing a crime? Does anyone ever say anything like this??!!!
As a ‘never in’, I can’t imagine what staff at a mOrg go through. The money trouble and divorces and all the rest are just too much conformation bias for me. The us vs them attitude does extend from staff to public, doesn’t it? Hell, that attitude is the operational imperative between every $cieno to each other, isn’t it?
The ‘psych’ chosen to exam Laura DeCrescenzo will be carefully vetted, but that last panel hits the whole process right on the head. I do hope Laura sees it.
These brainwashed people follow a story. A story we ourselves are de-hypnotizing ourselves from.
Joseph Campbell has a great line, I paraphrase:
“If you want to know who a person is, find out the stories they believe in.”
These stories, that we read, word cleared, demoed and check out for total proficiency……….-become personalities.
What is the mindset of someone who has word cleared and demoed Bolivar?
All of us here have hated and wished an ill will towards SPs
I remember Heber in Lebanon Hall in the late 70s. It was a fiery Zieg Heil to Ron’s picture after Heber announced to us the SPs from around the planet’s political mental health spectrums. We were all so buzzing with dedication to Ron and the tech and we would fight the SPs. Just like Obi Wan.
It was a Hollwood Nuremberg, ablaze with fierce determination on those nights at Lebanon Hall’s GO briefings.
I was convinced that it was the SPs who were harming the planet.
The next day I remember trying to kill those SPs with my “tone 40 intention.”
I learned to wish the death of other human beings through Hubbard.
I look back on those days and that mindset with a shutter!
Hi Brian,And in my shower I turn the water on hot. The showers @ the Hollywood Inn were tepid @ best especially with 6 bodies in a room meant for 2, another nice touch from GOI for me. On the Excal there was no hot water @ all the ” sailor’s showers ” were absolutely freezing! I also had the great fun of scrubbing toilets with toothbrushes.But oh that Kool Aid I pushed the lever on my Tone 40 Intention & blasted on through for Ron & The SO.I look back @ me then & shudder.I would have dreaded meeting me in a dark alley or for that matter in bright sunlight too.Love your post I think it takes such memories to help continue the de hypnozation process with me.I’m still haunted by the being I was & what I did to others In terms of The SO Mission.Never beat up anyone but yes I did that with words! But hey on the outside I see all colors of the rainbows which are for us all to share.And I have to thank the GOI for their ingenious way in allowing me to blow & get the hell out even though it hurt like nothing since in body mind & spirit.XXOO Always Ann B.
Hi Regarded Being,
ideas for one of your future publication …
OSA operation – Mike Rinder – camera in the bird house
OSA operation – Marty – squirrel busters
OSA operation – Marty ambush @ LAX
OSA operation – Marc Hadley outside INT base during flooding
OSA operation – David Let Him Die MisCabbage
in short, any and all of OSA operations
Spot on. How many times did I show up for course feeling great only to be “RUINED” again by the course sups or the regg or the ias etc. Scientology the place where no one is allowed to win.
Yeah, you won’t be popular with the fanatics of you do things like have children and support your family instead of jumping on the staff bandwagon. You’re “focused on one dynamic” and or a “spectator”.
I loved the cigarette butts dangling from the lips. These small details are terrific.
As I said yesterday .. on Tony Ortega Blog is a statement from Jon Atack about auditing which looks well. If you want to be Clear or want to Help others .. the only correct solution would be to become staff. My statement is: if you want .. not saying that you can do it .. because I have never seen one who did it on this way ..
I knew the snr C/S of Munich org well .. not so well, because I disliked him for his state of being powerful .. which he was not .. he was for me a fanatic idiot .. basically a nice guy .. but he was surely also a fanatic idiot .. that is all what staff is .. you have to be a fanatic idiot and fix you on Help and Clear or OT for yourself ..
The problem is, that scientology will never deliver Clear or OT to anyone on this world, because it is a fanatic idiotic idea that it can be delivered ..
I mean, if you do not start scientology, you will never begin to mock up a track for you which you never had .. you will never be supposed to handle overts which you have not done ever really .. try somethimes the work from Sigmund Freund about
Hi Regraded Being & Mike, It is a bonus Sat & well worth waiting for.Love the part where David Miscavige is explaining that the campaign will now include good psyciatrists & the rotten ones will be weeded out. Cos is screwing up royally,it really makes my head spin.How staff & SO can do anything with the head of the church’s mindset is just nuts! But then they drink all that Kool Aid constantly.Love your work. XO Always Ann B.
My favorite part is DM telling the psychiatrist that “we know more about psychiatry than you ever will”. Reminded me of Tom Cruise’s patronizing interview with Matt Lauer, when Tom said to Matt, “you don’t know the history of psychiatry, I do”.That interview was the beginning of Cruise’s transformation from popular actor to being seen as an arrogant lunatic!!
A fascinating insight into the lives and gestalt of the current “ins”. Normal common sense values like having the means to support your family are considered, “fucked-up wog values”. It’s playing on the agreement that the “4th dynamic” is all important and must be saved in spite of the fact that if you’re scientology staff, most of the 4th dynamic is living way better than you are!
James Morris (above),mentioned the surprises of polls. A poll of auditors with the question: “Why do you audit?” I bet would yield surprising answers as well. I tried asking two very experienced auditors just that question.
Each have thousands upon thousands of hours each, both Class VIII’s, and both said, with a bit of surprise, words to the effect that it was “a good question,” and each had to think it over a bit before answering. I’m not making fun of or diminishing either, but the answer was not there immediately..
The open space above us, as beings, is unknown, and not easy to look at and see. It is almost like asking a PC what their next cognition will be. There appears to be a nothing, but what it is actually is an uncomfortable unknown in the fullest sense of the word. Life has taught (some) that hatred does not work, but understanding does. Yet somehow, that question about where it leads to, is open. If you asked “Why do you want training?” the answers I have heard are usually along the lines of: to learn to understand people better, and be able to help.
So I ask (anyone)::
Why do you want to help someone?
Why do you want to help someone improve themselves?
What is improvement, how does it show?
What is happiness, or success, in life?
What are your goals as auditor?
You put your finger roundly into the round hole, and squarely into the square hole. The characters you depict is crunching do not know the answers, even ‘intellectually’, much less practically – and just do as they are told.
You managed to put a question of Ethics into graphics. If you ask a doctor why he cures, his answer usually is pulled out of a file in his head – he’s thought about it long and hard. He wants to help people in distress, make them healthier, help them live longer, and if nothing else, try to ease their pain. It’s an easier question, there, and the Hippocratic Oath spells it out.
Scn did not spell it out. The answer was left to each individual. The ethics tech is there to use, but was not used. It’s all admin scales, and they all interrelate. It is all about responsibility, knowledge, and control – of oneself, first. Knowledge of why one would want to study knowledge in the first place, and knowledge of what its benefits are; then, control of how to use knowledge responsibly, filling all Dynamics (not just one).
A guy gets wheeled into hospital emergency room with a broken arm and leg after falling off a horse. He uses his good arm and leg to fight off the doctors who are trying to heal him. After a few minutes a nurse asks him why he is resisting help. Through gritted teeth he manages to say that he wants a dentist. The fall also cracked a molar which was causing more pain and discomfort than the broken arm and leg.
A woman walks into a Scientology church because she is made to believe that she can be ‘cured’
of her morbid fear of cock roaches. 30+ years and several hundred thousand dollars later she (now OT8) runs out of her grand-daughter’s wedding ceremony because a small cock roach crawled over one of her shoes.
So what do you audit?
What does the the PC want handled?
Why did they walk into your church in the first place?
What did you promise them?
How many of us continued year after year knowing that the ‘next action’ would be one that would provide the answer you were looking for. The answer for the question you asked on the first day you walked in the door.
I know of a person who’s biggest win related to Scientology happened after they left the church. After describing a situation (to an indie auditor) that had come up in session year after year but was never handled the auditor asked “Are you interested in auditing that?” The situation was unrelated to the program that had been set up for the PC but was nevertheless audited and handled.
There are many still in the church who want to help others but are unable because the definition of help has changed.
Scientology itself has changed from something that people used to something that uses people.
Pity.
The “open space” above us is what we are. “I am that”. That’s the enlightenment cognition. The rest of the cognition is worded: “This is that, everything is that”. That means you see everything as yourself and being loath to suffer, you are loath to have anybody else suffer. So in answer to the question, “Why do you want to help someone?” a wise person would know that helping someone is the same as helping yourself. This isn’t a philosophy but direct knowledge of truth. It is also very foreign to scientology. I’m going to venture a reason why the auditors had to get back with you for an answer to your question, “Why do you audit?”
Scientology’s aim is to take people to their fullest potential but touted OT abilities such as making things happen with postulates are NOT in the human potential. So the aims of scientology are never realized because they don’t exist making the whole thing a fiction. “Total Freedom” isn’t defined in terms that make sense and it’s for sure scientology isn’t producing it. If anybody can see this it would be two seasoned auditors. They really don’t know why they audit and thanks to you now they realize they don’t know. That’s what the sages call the beginning of knowledge.
Totally. I’ve seen it, and I’ve experienced it. One of the Class VIII’s I talked to explained once that IF a girl died her white dog blue, and doesn’t know why, and is very upset and so is the dog, you handle that, because that’s her universe. (You don’t audit the dog’s upset, you audit the girl). On the other end of the spectrum, you get someone who wants to know about past lives (many do) and begins in the same breath to talk about being in Ancient Egypt … and the average auditor starts cringing because he fears: “OMG! And then a pyramid fell on top of my head and I was buried alive [uncontrolled sobbing].” Usually, that’s not the case, and it’s usually about some images and wanting a confirmation that it’s real (they already know it is).
At either end of the spectrum, it’s their case, their ethics, and the results of ethics in the past, really, It can and should be handled as such – that is what the PC wants. Personally, I think that unhandled errors are plentiful, and that is very damaging. Some success stories outside the church are about getting unhandled things handled – after years.
Roger – I can see the wisdom of helping another as help to oneself. I’d rather have a strong neighbor than a weak one, communicative friends rather than silent ones – and so on.
Why would you rather have a strong neighbor than a weak one or communicative friends rather than silent ones? Is it because it’s better for you or because it’s better for them? I might not want my neighbor to suffer because that could translate into a disadvantage for me. Or I might not want my neighbor to suffer because his suffering is my suffering and I don’t like to suffer.
Ahah! I finally figured it out!
I read somewhere about a British science magazine poll where about eighty percent of the general public rates themselves as above average intelligence. And further, 25% put themselves into the top one percent. I’d just assumed that it was incompetence way overestimating it’s own prowess.
But, no…it’s the $cioes skewing all the data!!
Cindy: another option to see RB better is to hold the ctl key down and tap the plus sign (+) on your PC. Each time you tap +, the screen will enlarge. To reduce size just reverse the process by holding ctl and tapping the minus (-) button..
This helps not only for RB, but for a lot of other websites that have too small print. The Ctl key (lower left hand corner of your PC) and the + and – means you can use your PC on the internet without reading glasses.
I clicked on the cartoon and that did not enlarge it for me. But Robert’s suggestion worked. Voila! Thanks for helping instead of making fun of my lack of computer literacy, Robert.
Yeah .. psychiatrist are fine guys anyway .. only some of them try to convince you that some body parts or your brain does not work well .. so is all, and so is also scientology
To be on staff is the only real solution for being a scientologist .. it was since my time in the cherch always in this way .. I myself became never a staff .. although there were some really nice guys around .. but some others were really stupid and fanatic .. and I did not like this dichotomy ..
Time did show that it is after 43 years still the same .. the best solution is to go on staff if you want to be a scientologist ..
I got the square peg being hammered in the round hole
a lot. Then I just started looking and most of those doing the hammering were dropping dead for off the wall reasons.
Yes – this is it! So funny – the cigarettes hanging out of their mouths…the crazy debt problems constant for those in Scientology and the forever problem getting “kicked out of spaces” cuz they can’t pay their bills….
RB – you hit the nail on the head with the “covert hostility” from the staff cuz the public have money and won’t join staff! THIS IS IT!! I experienced this over and over and over and what happened to the “love bombing” I received when I first came in. The LB died after they got $$$,$$$ on account for my “services”…WTF???
Now – just a few ideas for you –
How about some stuff on “safe pointing”
What OSA does to “safe point” the Idle Morgues….What the Church of Scientology does to control opinion leaders; writing their speeches for the “events”…
It is time to shine a light on that for our lurkers in doubt.
It should assist them in “setting aside all rumors and bias” whilst doing their formulas…
Seriously? All success stories are now proof read? And, YOU HAVE TO MENTION DAVID “LET HIM DIE MISCAVIGE??? That sociopath dwarf has one hellava ego! But, I guess it’s a requirement to stoke it.
The proof reading was back in 2003 at Flag. These days you probably go straight to qual for a failed graduation speech. Not mentioning Chairman of the Bored likely gets you an intensive of sec checking and then on to the IAS for a 10K dono holing!
Re: The cigarettes hang out of their mouths, ldle, Hubbard said: “Smoking doesn’t cause cancer. Not smoking ENOUGH causes cancer.” Truly they live in Opposite World. The insanity is really frightening…
Hi OSD, Proofreading success stories I had to read that twice to be sure I had it right. & having to mention David Miscavige too! What a set up,Why not just hit print & all those stories will be the same.Insanity indeed.XO Always Ann B.
John Locke….there’s no ‘reply’ button to respond to you directly, so I’ll just reply to TT, with the hopes that you will see it too.
Yes, I’m thinking that TT is still drinking the Kool-Aid. I am of the opinion that we are all entitled to our beliefs and opinions and if we want to make disagree with someone (like TT apparently disagrees with Mike and the hilarious Regraded Being) s/he is free to do so.
I would simply ask TT (or anyone who cares to make a claim or accusation) to defend their statements. I’ve read other comments left by TT and I believe s/he is missing an opportunity to educate the rest of us. Tell us why you (TT) disagree with Regraded Being, otherwise it just looks like you are a child, calling other people names.
All I ever hear from Scientologists is how important communication is, yet they are unable to express themselves in any kind of logical fashion. It’s sad really…they are pawns in someone else’s fight and they don’t even realize it.
I wish Tom Cruise would have paid more attention to the Vanilla Sky script……particularly the line ‘Open your eyes’
Aquamarine says
Thanks for this double feature, Regraded.
Though I laughed I also learned something; yes, the cult’s paid shrink will definitely be coached to pronounce Laura completely sane.
And for the other, I laughed and also shuddered, rolling back how many reproving lectures I’ve received from staff members warning dire consequences about too much focus on “mest goals”. Like these two with their cigarettes (lol) one minute disclosing to one another about dynamics are collapsing, and the next, dressing down a guy who just go a promotion and a raise, as if they themselves are really succeeding in their lives, and as such are qualified to criticize.
The not-so-veiled make wrong I as a public would get from staff used to make me feel guilty for feeding, clothing and housing myself and for keeping in PT with my bills and keeping my credit from getting wrecked.
On the other hand, those who wrecked their credit and were financially irresponsible were given pats on the back when they flowed money they didn’t have to the org.
This is Suppressive!
Today, I realize that those lectures were from people who were not “making it go right”, but “faking it go right”.
Whew! Thank God and the Internet and the blogs and the angel over my shoulder that I am out of this Suppressive environment.
Ann B Watson says
Hi Mike, I thought I would ask if this has happened to all you wonderful bloggers before.This is the 1st time it happened to me.As ASR there would always be some terrible entheta letters that would cross my desk.Not people being negative or swearing but much much darker & frightening murder u etc.I would go to Qual & originate but that was all I could do.I even had a stalker letter writer for years.Creepy! So I read a blog here from someone new & the second I read this I was ill I felt like this enormous black mass had covered my soul burst into tears & basically was so very down.I told myself just move on Ann it is probably just a troll but that did not work.So I put the IPad down & went outside.I told myself to be reasonable I’m free & in the sunshine but this took a few hours to shake off.Now being out perhaps I am so much more sensitive to those who I was exactly like when in The SO but it was very strange.All the other posts have never ever affected me like that.Yet I’m half glad it happened because now I can see how to handle this better if it ever occurs again.Thank you XO to all you good & kind beings.Ann B.
valhalkarie says
Amazing,how bad mystery loves company in the sea org. They litterally try and ruin good fortune of every public scientologist. It’s so sick! Why won’t a public just ask,why would buying something,saving money,paying bills,or pleasing the 4senses in any way be a crime? The many courses and seminar briefings all taught me how to be self reliant, focus on organization,self betterment and great ways on saving and how to grow wealth. So when I take action in this wealth of knowlage,I’m committing a crime? Does anyone ever say anything like this??!!!
zemooo says
As a ‘never in’, I can’t imagine what staff at a mOrg go through. The money trouble and divorces and all the rest are just too much conformation bias for me. The us vs them attitude does extend from staff to public, doesn’t it? Hell, that attitude is the operational imperative between every $cieno to each other, isn’t it?
The ‘psych’ chosen to exam Laura DeCrescenzo will be carefully vetted, but that last panel hits the whole process right on the head. I do hope Laura sees it.
Brian says
These brainwashed people follow a story. A story we ourselves are de-hypnotizing ourselves from.
Joseph Campbell has a great line, I paraphrase:
“If you want to know who a person is, find out the stories they believe in.”
These stories, that we read, word cleared, demoed and check out for total proficiency……….-become personalities.
What is the mindset of someone who has word cleared and demoed Bolivar?
All of us here have hated and wished an ill will towards SPs
I remember Heber in Lebanon Hall in the late 70s. It was a fiery Zieg Heil to Ron’s picture after Heber announced to us the SPs from around the planet’s political mental health spectrums. We were all so buzzing with dedication to Ron and the tech and we would fight the SPs. Just like Obi Wan.
It was a Hollwood Nuremberg, ablaze with fierce determination on those nights at Lebanon Hall’s GO briefings.
I was convinced that it was the SPs who were harming the planet.
The next day I remember trying to kill those SPs with my “tone 40 intention.”
I learned to wish the death of other human beings through Hubbard.
I look back on those days and that mindset with a shutter!
Time for a shower.
Ann B Watson says
Hi Brian,And in my shower I turn the water on hot. The showers @ the Hollywood Inn were tepid @ best especially with 6 bodies in a room meant for 2, another nice touch from GOI for me. On the Excal there was no hot water @ all the ” sailor’s showers ” were absolutely freezing! I also had the great fun of scrubbing toilets with toothbrushes.But oh that Kool Aid I pushed the lever on my Tone 40 Intention & blasted on through for Ron & The SO.I look back @ me then & shudder.I would have dreaded meeting me in a dark alley or for that matter in bright sunlight too.Love your post I think it takes such memories to help continue the de hypnozation process with me.I’m still haunted by the being I was & what I did to others In terms of The SO Mission.Never beat up anyone but yes I did that with words! But hey on the outside I see all colors of the rainbows which are for us all to share.And I have to thank the GOI for their ingenious way in allowing me to blow & get the hell out even though it hurt like nothing since in body mind & spirit.XXOO Always Ann B.
Brian says
Thanks for that story Ann 🙂
Sometimes I think everyday is a day to uncover false notions.
To resolve with intuition and reason only.
Such fun in the dark forest!
Abi Ja says
https://seccheck.wordpress.com/2015/05/29/minor-incidents-on-the-time-track-13/
Abi Ja says
Hi Regarded Being,
ideas for one of your future publication …
OSA operation – Mike Rinder – camera in the bird house
OSA operation – Marty – squirrel busters
OSA operation – Marty ambush @ LAX
OSA operation – Marc Hadley outside INT base during flooding
OSA operation – David Let Him Die MisCabbage
in short, any and all of OSA operations
Tone 4 Society says
Wow!! A double feature…on a small screen..and no cover charge!!
HELLOOSA says
Spot on. How many times did I show up for course feeling great only to be “RUINED” again by the course sups or the regg or the ias etc. Scientology the place where no one is allowed to win.
Pepper says
Yeah, you won’t be popular with the fanatics of you do things like have children and support your family instead of jumping on the staff bandwagon. You’re “focused on one dynamic” and or a “spectator”.
I loved the cigarette butts dangling from the lips. These small details are terrific.
Friend says
As I said yesterday .. on Tony Ortega Blog is a statement from Jon Atack about auditing which looks well. If you want to be Clear or want to Help others .. the only correct solution would be to become staff. My statement is: if you want .. not saying that you can do it .. because I have never seen one who did it on this way ..
I knew the snr C/S of Munich org well .. not so well, because I disliked him for his state of being powerful .. which he was not .. he was for me a fanatic idiot .. basically a nice guy .. but he was surely also a fanatic idiot .. that is all what staff is .. you have to be a fanatic idiot and fix you on Help and Clear or OT for yourself ..
The problem is, that scientology will never deliver Clear or OT to anyone on this world, because it is a fanatic idiotic idea that it can be delivered ..
I mean, if you do not start scientology, you will never begin to mock up a track for you which you never had .. you will never be supposed to handle overts which you have not done ever really .. try somethimes the work from Sigmund Freund about
Ann B Watson says
Hi Regraded Being & Mike, It is a bonus Sat & well worth waiting for.Love the part where David Miscavige is explaining that the campaign will now include good psyciatrists & the rotten ones will be weeded out. Cos is screwing up royally,it really makes my head spin.How staff & SO can do anything with the head of the church’s mindset is just nuts! But then they drink all that Kool Aid constantly.Love your work. XO Always Ann B.
Kathy H. says
My favorite part is DM telling the psychiatrist that “we know more about psychiatry than you ever will”. Reminded me of Tom Cruise’s patronizing interview with Matt Lauer, when Tom said to Matt, “you don’t know the history of psychiatry, I do”.That interview was the beginning of Cruise’s transformation from popular actor to being seen as an arrogant lunatic!!
Roger Hornaday says
A fascinating insight into the lives and gestalt of the current “ins”. Normal common sense values like having the means to support your family are considered, “fucked-up wog values”. It’s playing on the agreement that the “4th dynamic” is all important and must be saved in spite of the fact that if you’re scientology staff, most of the 4th dynamic is living way better than you are!
Nickname says
Regraded Being –
James Morris (above),mentioned the surprises of polls. A poll of auditors with the question: “Why do you audit?” I bet would yield surprising answers as well. I tried asking two very experienced auditors just that question.
Each have thousands upon thousands of hours each, both Class VIII’s, and both said, with a bit of surprise, words to the effect that it was “a good question,” and each had to think it over a bit before answering. I’m not making fun of or diminishing either, but the answer was not there immediately..
The open space above us, as beings, is unknown, and not easy to look at and see. It is almost like asking a PC what their next cognition will be. There appears to be a nothing, but what it is actually is an uncomfortable unknown in the fullest sense of the word. Life has taught (some) that hatred does not work, but understanding does. Yet somehow, that question about where it leads to, is open. If you asked “Why do you want training?” the answers I have heard are usually along the lines of: to learn to understand people better, and be able to help.
So I ask (anyone)::
Why do you want to help someone?
Why do you want to help someone improve themselves?
What is improvement, how does it show?
What is happiness, or success, in life?
What are your goals as auditor?
You put your finger roundly into the round hole, and squarely into the square hole. The characters you depict is crunching do not know the answers, even ‘intellectually’, much less practically – and just do as they are told.
You managed to put a question of Ethics into graphics. If you ask a doctor why he cures, his answer usually is pulled out of a file in his head – he’s thought about it long and hard. He wants to help people in distress, make them healthier, help them live longer, and if nothing else, try to ease their pain. It’s an easier question, there, and the Hippocratic Oath spells it out.
Scn did not spell it out. The answer was left to each individual. The ethics tech is there to use, but was not used. It’s all admin scales, and they all interrelate. It is all about responsibility, knowledge, and control – of oneself, first. Knowledge of why one would want to study knowledge in the first place, and knowledge of what its benefits are; then, control of how to use knowledge responsibly, filling all Dynamics (not just one).
Regraded Being says
A guy gets wheeled into hospital emergency room with a broken arm and leg after falling off a horse. He uses his good arm and leg to fight off the doctors who are trying to heal him. After a few minutes a nurse asks him why he is resisting help. Through gritted teeth he manages to say that he wants a dentist. The fall also cracked a molar which was causing more pain and discomfort than the broken arm and leg.
A woman walks into a Scientology church because she is made to believe that she can be ‘cured’
of her morbid fear of cock roaches. 30+ years and several hundred thousand dollars later she (now OT8) runs out of her grand-daughter’s wedding ceremony because a small cock roach crawled over one of her shoes.
So what do you audit?
What does the the PC want handled?
Why did they walk into your church in the first place?
What did you promise them?
How many of us continued year after year knowing that the ‘next action’ would be one that would provide the answer you were looking for. The answer for the question you asked on the first day you walked in the door.
I know of a person who’s biggest win related to Scientology happened after they left the church. After describing a situation (to an indie auditor) that had come up in session year after year but was never handled the auditor asked “Are you interested in auditing that?” The situation was unrelated to the program that had been set up for the PC but was nevertheless audited and handled.
There are many still in the church who want to help others but are unable because the definition of help has changed.
Scientology itself has changed from something that people used to something that uses people.
Pity.
Roger Hornaday says
The “open space” above us is what we are. “I am that”. That’s the enlightenment cognition. The rest of the cognition is worded: “This is that, everything is that”. That means you see everything as yourself and being loath to suffer, you are loath to have anybody else suffer. So in answer to the question, “Why do you want to help someone?” a wise person would know that helping someone is the same as helping yourself. This isn’t a philosophy but direct knowledge of truth. It is also very foreign to scientology. I’m going to venture a reason why the auditors had to get back with you for an answer to your question, “Why do you audit?”
Scientology’s aim is to take people to their fullest potential but touted OT abilities such as making things happen with postulates are NOT in the human potential. So the aims of scientology are never realized because they don’t exist making the whole thing a fiction. “Total Freedom” isn’t defined in terms that make sense and it’s for sure scientology isn’t producing it. If anybody can see this it would be two seasoned auditors. They really don’t know why they audit and thanks to you now they realize they don’t know. That’s what the sages call the beginning of knowledge.
Nickname says
Regraded Being –
Totally. I’ve seen it, and I’ve experienced it. One of the Class VIII’s I talked to explained once that IF a girl died her white dog blue, and doesn’t know why, and is very upset and so is the dog, you handle that, because that’s her universe. (You don’t audit the dog’s upset, you audit the girl). On the other end of the spectrum, you get someone who wants to know about past lives (many do) and begins in the same breath to talk about being in Ancient Egypt … and the average auditor starts cringing because he fears: “OMG! And then a pyramid fell on top of my head and I was buried alive [uncontrolled sobbing].” Usually, that’s not the case, and it’s usually about some images and wanting a confirmation that it’s real (they already know it is).
At either end of the spectrum, it’s their case, their ethics, and the results of ethics in the past, really, It can and should be handled as such – that is what the PC wants. Personally, I think that unhandled errors are plentiful, and that is very damaging. Some success stories outside the church are about getting unhandled things handled – after years.
Nickname says
Roger – I can see the wisdom of helping another as help to oneself. I’d rather have a strong neighbor than a weak one, communicative friends rather than silent ones – and so on.
Roger Hornaday says
Why would you rather have a strong neighbor than a weak one or communicative friends rather than silent ones? Is it because it’s better for you or because it’s better for them? I might not want my neighbor to suffer because that could translate into a disadvantage for me. Or I might not want my neighbor to suffer because his suffering is my suffering and I don’t like to suffer.
James Morris says
Ahah! I finally figured it out!
I read somewhere about a British science magazine poll where about eighty percent of the general public rates themselves as above average intelligence. And further, 25% put themselves into the top one percent. I’d just assumed that it was incompetence way overestimating it’s own prowess.
But, no…it’s the $cioes skewing all the data!!
cindy says
HI Regraded Being. I love your comics. So spot on. My only request is can you make the type bigger? That is small and hard to read sometimes.
Marie guerin says
Hi Cindy, you can enlarge the screen.
Mike Rinder says
Click on the cartoon. Magic
Old Surfer Dude says
Yep! That worked!
Robert Almblad says
Cindy: another option to see RB better is to hold the ctl key down and tap the plus sign (+) on your PC. Each time you tap +, the screen will enlarge. To reduce size just reverse the process by holding ctl and tapping the minus (-) button..
This helps not only for RB, but for a lot of other websites that have too small print. The Ctl key (lower left hand corner of your PC) and the + and – means you can use your PC on the internet without reading glasses.
cindy says
I clicked on the cartoon and that did not enlarge it for me. But Robert’s suggestion worked. Voila! Thanks for helping instead of making fun of my lack of computer literacy, Robert.
Friend says
Yeah .. psychiatrist are fine guys anyway .. only some of them try to convince you that some body parts or your brain does not work well .. so is all, and so is also scientology
To be on staff is the only real solution for being a scientologist .. it was since my time in the cherch always in this way .. I myself became never a staff .. although there were some really nice guys around .. but some others were really stupid and fanatic .. and I did not like this dichotomy ..
Time did show that it is after 43 years still the same .. the best solution is to go on staff if you want to be a scientologist ..
John Locke says
Sweet! Nothin’ like having bugs planted in key places. 🙂
Idle Morgue says
I have actually heard Scientologist’s “still in” talking about putting a square peg in a round hole….
THAT is Scientology.
Black is white
Good is bad
Up is down
Scientology is now completely opposite of what it claims to be.
alexdevalera says
Of course it’ a 1.1 operation, so much like 1984!
Jose Chung says
You forgot left is right, right is left. downstats are upstats and upstats are downstats.
Jose Chung says
I got the square peg being hammered in the round hole
a lot. Then I just started looking and most of those doing the hammering were dropping dead for off the wall reasons.
Idle Morgue says
Yes – this is it! So funny – the cigarettes hanging out of their mouths…the crazy debt problems constant for those in Scientology and the forever problem getting “kicked out of spaces” cuz they can’t pay their bills….
RB – you hit the nail on the head with the “covert hostility” from the staff cuz the public have money and won’t join staff! THIS IS IT!! I experienced this over and over and over and what happened to the “love bombing” I received when I first came in. The LB died after they got $$$,$$$ on account for my “services”…WTF???
Now – just a few ideas for you –
How about some stuff on “safe pointing”
What OSA does to “safe point” the Idle Morgues….What the Church of Scientology does to control opinion leaders; writing their speeches for the “events”…
It is time to shine a light on that for our lurkers in doubt.
It should assist them in “setting aside all rumors and bias” whilst doing their formulas…
Love it!!
Newcomer says
Another one is the proofing of your success stories for graduation. I was blown away when that happened at Flag for my OT VII graduation.
Had to mention COB, had to say it ‘this way’ and ‘no, you can’t say that’ !! WTF?????
Who are these guys?
Old Surfer Dude says
Seriously? All success stories are now proof read? And, YOU HAVE TO MENTION DAVID “LET HIM DIE MISCAVIGE??? That sociopath dwarf has one hellava ego! But, I guess it’s a requirement to stoke it.
alexdevalera says
They are aliens coming from planet Farsec, they are Xenu’s minions coming to Teegeak. LOL
Newcomer says
The proof reading was back in 2003 at Flag. These days you probably go straight to qual for a failed graduation speech. Not mentioning Chairman of the Bored likely gets you an intensive of sec checking and then on to the IAS for a 10K dono holing!
Old Surfer Dude says
Re: The cigarettes hang out of their mouths, ldle, Hubbard said: “Smoking doesn’t cause cancer. Not smoking ENOUGH causes cancer.” Truly they live in Opposite World. The insanity is really frightening…
Ann B Watson says
Hi OSD, Proofreading success stories I had to read that twice to be sure I had it right. & having to mention David Miscavige too! What a set up,Why not just hit print & all those stories will be the same.Insanity indeed.XO Always Ann B.
Idle Morgue says
Yes OSD – Hubbard said something about “smoking was okay cuz at one time we lived by volcano’s”.
I think that was his BT’s talking.
What a crazy con man!
I can’t believe I ever feel for that scam – Scientology.
I think David Miscavige must be thoroughly full fledged psychotic by now – drinking Scotch and getting worse.
Heh Blackheart – if you are reading this – are the SP’s everywhere? Yep – we are!! Tick Tock
TruthTeller says
Time to renew my subscription to VIZ magazine I think.
Chee Chalker says
Why so angry and bitter, TT?
John Locke says
Chee Chalker, maybe “Truthteller” is a scamologist…
Chee Chalker says
John Locke….there’s no ‘reply’ button to respond to you directly, so I’ll just reply to TT, with the hopes that you will see it too.
Yes, I’m thinking that TT is still drinking the Kool-Aid. I am of the opinion that we are all entitled to our beliefs and opinions and if we want to make disagree with someone (like TT apparently disagrees with Mike and the hilarious Regraded Being) s/he is free to do so.
I would simply ask TT (or anyone who cares to make a claim or accusation) to defend their statements. I’ve read other comments left by TT and I believe s/he is missing an opportunity to educate the rest of us. Tell us why you (TT) disagree with Regraded Being, otherwise it just looks like you are a child, calling other people names.
All I ever hear from Scientologists is how important communication is, yet they are unable to express themselves in any kind of logical fashion. It’s sad really…they are pawns in someone else’s fight and they don’t even realize it.
I wish Tom Cruise would have paid more attention to the Vanilla Sky script……particularly the line ‘Open your eyes’