Anniversaries of ideal org ribbon yankings are being celebrated routinely these days.
Yet, in fact, there is little (or nothing) to celebrate.
San Francisco is one of the first 4 “ideal” orgs — way back in November 2003. That is 13 years ago.
In all that time, they have NOT even achieved St Hill Size. This was the level of operation L. Ron Hubbard said was a “viable organization” — that is above the “make-break” point. Thus, by Hubbard’s reckoning any org that is NOT SH size is not viable and cannot make it in the world.
He also said this:
So, what is wrong with these ideal orgs? They should be SH in a matter of weeks according to Hubbard.
Hell, Atlanta has expanded 10X — if they only had 20 staff when they moved in to their new mausoleum they would have 200 now and be well beyond SH Size….
But not a single one of them has attained SH Size after having their ribbon yanked. Perhaps Tampa has gone beyond that target because it is artificially propped up by Flag public and as the service org for Flag rejects. You might also note that Tampa has NOT opened dozens of missions and field organizations, in fact, several have closed down, and it has certainly not resulted in any NEW orgs being created which was the repeated promise made by Miscavige in the pitch for the “ideal org” program.
So, when they get together for their soiree in San Francisco, what are they going to talk about after 13 years? How they have no really accomplished anything despite their magnificent “ideal” org?
Here is another one.
Scientology St. Paul truly epitomizes the ideal morgue moniker. Not a single thing has happened in this place since its ribbon was yanked 5 years ago.
And then there is Inglewood. A total bust — even less happening here than in the deserted Pasadena and Orange County “ideal” orgs. They keep importing public from other orgs to take some service there, they cannot even get anything going with the NOI.
And now they don’t even have enough of these “ideal org” ribbon yankings happening to cover the annual events so they rehash them over and over and over.
Used to be that the ideal orgs were announced at the next international event. Nowdays the ribbon yanking occurs with much hype and videos and pix are put on the scientology website within hours. Then videos are distributed to orgs and everyone is called in to see them. They are then included in the next event and everyone is called in to watch them again. And then after the event showing have been done and there is nothing else happening people are called in again to see the same video that has been shown twice before. Here are the two latest examples.
It is always good to know that a ribbon yanking is “earth shaking” and a “spectacular advance for an OT civilization.”
Wonder when there is ever going to be any evidence of an “OT civilization” after all the “spectacular advances” that have been announced over the years….
“Wonder when there is ever going to be any evidence of an ‘OT civilization’ after all the ‘spectacular advances’ that have been announced over the years….”
I wonder if there is going to be any evidence of OT civilization 100 years from now when archaeologists dig in Clearwater?
jello molds and salads are not in anymore. maybe they were declared when i wasn’t looking.
There really is a very sad and lingering aspect to Ideal Orgs and for the reason they are created . They stand in testament of a valiant attempt to right the wrongs of life. The money used to create them was handed over with the very best intentions for us all. Yet, in reality they serve equally as helpful to mankind as the cash inside the safe of the local crack dealer.
It is truly easy to condemn the Scientologist, for they are as blind as a bat but the scope and dimensions of their impending heartbreak brings any socially minded person to great sadness when the damage to their lives is truly comprehended. Families are ripped apart, friends rejected, an incredible drop in living standards accepted in good faith as it is promised all will get better, and failing health is almost guaranteed as they age prematurely. Nowhere in all this is any happiness! Scientologists are not happy people, they are fighting a war they believe is winnable with Miscavige leading them. There is nothing worse than witnessing people cry over such matters.
Ouch. Right between the eyes.
ouch again.
I think that by now they’re punch drunk. And not even aware that they are.
If you give a ‘potluck’ dinner in Scientology St. Paul, does everyone bring a Jello dish? Having lived in St Paul many years ago, I can testify to the prevalence of Jello dishes at a potluck.
Re the NOI ‘alliance’, has any NOI been sighted at any mOrg or mission? Are they now trained ‘auditors’ and doing that deed at an NOI mosque?
What, if anything is the NOI doing with $camatology these days? Besides the occasional photo op. Those don’t mean anything.
That is a Jello salad or a Jello mold. And yes, they are prevalent at potlucks. Not everyone can bring the tatertot hotdish.
And it has to be green jello you know. Nothing else will do, with pineapples and green maraschino cherries. I grew up next door in Wisconsin and know a lot about Lutheran Basement potlucks.
I recall recent photos (posted on the underground bunker, sundays) not so long ago of NOI members banging on about graduating as auditors.
I am reading the Scn expose book by Australian author Steve Cannane, “Fair Game.” It is a fascinating history of Scn and LRH and others. I’m at the part where Michael Miesner is mentioned a lot. Does anyone know if Michael Miesner (or Meisner) is in or out of the church? What is he doing now? Is he an Ex?
Seriously? He was the star witness for the prosecution of Mary Sue Hubbard and Co. If he ever wanted to be in the church (after being literally kidnapped and held against his will) he would not be allowed until he had done amends for many lifetimes.
Dear Mike,
What are they going to talk about at the soiree in San Fran you ask?
Whatever the hell I want them to talk about wise ass. And they better like it too.
ML,
Dave
Where’s the invite to watch a video of the grand opening of Stables and the St Hill pond?
Coming as soon as they finish editing it together with the grand opening of the ideal playground.
Ideal Scene: No more Ideal Orgs.
But, we’ll still have Model, idle Morgues, right?
If YOU were in-charge of the Ideal Org program what would you do differently?
I’ll be the first to go…
First, I would do an analysis of each org and find out what the public felt was “non-ideal”. This could be the furniture, the signage, the course room, whatever. Pick one.
Second, I would contact the field and brief them on plans for an org upgrade and get their support.
Third, I would offer a special auditing and training package, if the public were to purchase auditing and training to the highest level the org delivers, there would be a discount – AND all of the money stays local. NO payments to management (everyone must share the pain). NO FSM commissions (vultures not welcome). From the donation, the staff would get paid and the majority would go to fund the org renos.
Fourth, if a public wished to do a straight donation, the entirety would to go the org renos AND the org would put the same amount into a REAL auditor training scholarship. Set-up a Scholarship Committee consisting of both staff AND public, review and approve scholarship applications. Get people trained.
This whole upgrade cycle could take a year or two, and the org would undergo incremental improvements. Once completed, you could repeat these steps as needed. The difference here is in the end, your quarters are now socially acceptable, you will likely have more public, more audited PCs, and more trained auditors.
Only when the org had reached the legal limits of capacity would you go scouting for another building.
Do not confuse the above with any sort of “pro-Scn” stance, or even legitimizing the “Ideal Org” program. It is purely a “fantasy management” exercise.
I’d sell every one of those very posh, but almost completely deserted buildings and start a fund to pay restitution to all of the many individuals and families who’ve been harmed by $cn’s Fair Game and disconnection policies. I’d also set aside part of that fund to provide for aging and infirm Sea Orgy staff who’ve dedicate their lives to the cause.
After that, I’d stage a ceremonial sinking of the Fleecewinds and make that date the anniversary of the end of the faux military (but legally non-existent) Sea Org ruling structure. I’d continue on with my planetary amends project by donating the other advance level orgs around the world to deserving charitable organizations in their respective cities. I’d sell the new SuMP facilities and use those funds to pay for the health care, medical services and vocational training of former Sea Orgy members..
Finally, I’d convert the Int Base property to a center for cult abatement, mitigation and awareness studies, where experts and lay folks from around the world could gather and work to ensure that it’s guiding motto, “Never Again!” will come to fruition.
This might not have been exactly the kind of response that you were expecting, but I’m convinced that a plan something like it would be in the very best interest of us all.
Oh, and what to do with lil davey the cult’s savage and sadistic leader? Well, that’s easy: Lock his useless, evil ass up in that electronic cave prison with Xenu!
Miscavige could add a new stat fro new years event: ‘# of overrun minutes of Ideal Orgs’ videos watched over and over again’
It sure will be an unprecedented highest ever.
Vertically erect.
Ideal Org rationale per Miscavige mindset: I Steal Orgs.
“IAS-sponsored”
Those poor folks in Valley… they got poor and everyone else got an IAS-sponsorship.
I like how at the end of the promotional flyer they say “ALL ARE WELCOME”.
Except, journalists, new public unaccompanied by clams, disconnected family members, SPs, videographers and anyone unwilling to give their name, address and email address.
Scientology is truly the hypocrisy Mecca. No wonder so many members ultimately becomes criminals or go crazy.
Or die early….
Get rich or die lying.
Or end up here…
ROTFLMFAO!!! Now that’s some funny shit!!!
The descriptive language on those two last flyers is hilarious – ‘Witness the earth shaking…’. ‘Witness the monumental…’ Once you have seen one ‘grand opening’ you have seen them all, just a lot of hot air over nothing. They are truly the most boring thing to watch, when I was still in and had to attend any of the events I’d schedule an extra long bathroom break when these were being shown.
Speaking of Ideal: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ideal_World
Seems they’re also having customer service issues.
“In May 2013, Ideal World became the subject of a BBC Watchdog investigation after viewer complaints about non-delivery of goods and the allegedly poor quality of some products. Customers also alleged that complaints to Ideal World customer services either went unanswered or were not satisfactory. In response to the investigation, a spokesperson for Ideal World suggested that the incidents highlighted by Watchdog were isolated and attributed the customer service difficulties to a transition between providers.”
The golden age of yanking.
I went through that golden age myself … when I was much younger of course.
Of course….
In Great Britain they call it wanking.
Maybe “being on the cans” is a similar euphemism for them. The use of hand cream required.
In those Ideal places, self created satisfaction is all they are capable of, short lived as it is. That’s their version of OT. Scientologist’s really are, “special need people.”
Time for The Lubrication Rundown.
Yes it is. Makes me wonder just what is an acceptable EP from a session on the “oily table?” Or is it one of those, unlimited processes?
Repetitive and unlimited.
Oh! I love The Lubrication RD. It’s….it’s so oily.
ok guys you’re all very funny… but please tell me that we’ve reached the ‘happy ending’ of this chain of conversation now. hmm? thx.
I remember the 1st time I read that quote from EL Con Tubbolard about Boston. I immediately looked up the historic stats that were in the F.B. (as Boston was a failing Org at the time and it wasn’t THAT long after it was supposedly St. Hill sized) El Con COMPLETELY lied about Boston org in that ED.
Oh well, he did almost nothing but lie his entire life.
p.s. I remember talking with Dave Foster after I looked up those stats. He told me that all that happened in Boston was FSO reges sucking up all the $ from the public up there.
F.B. = facebook? or… ?
Flag Bureaux. The Middle management org
ah, so that explains it, thanks for the explanation. Hope you have a nice day 🙂