Following is a posting sent in to me by Mike Wreggitt. It falls into the category of some of the earlier postings I called “Life Is Good.” Things have been a bit frantic with “hard news”, so this is a nice change of pace.
Hey, I wanted to introduce myself to the independent Scientology community.
My name is Mike Wreggitt. I’ve made a few posts a year or so ago on Marty’s blog, under my own name, but other than that I haven’t been too vocal. Also, I’m #140 on the Indie 500 list.
What I have been doing is I’ve been on course, at The Courseroom in Georgia, on my Solo 1, under the course supervisor-ship of John Aaron Williams.
Frankly, I didn’t want to ‘come out’ in a big way as an indie until I got through OT-III. I wanted to know for myself, with certainty, the validity of the OT levels. Since getting out of the church, I figure the whole “What’s true for you…” thing might be worth a little more diligent application.
Why the change of heart?
First, I’m close to completing my “5 times through” on the meter drills, and I’ve been having such tremendous wins, that, for me, have been validating the effectiveness of the tech. And second, certain events have transpired that I wanted to make my opinion known about. More on this in a minute.
There’s not much to tell, but first I should probably say a little about myself. I got into Scientology as a young man in 1986 (Jan 24 to be exact.) I had always had an interest in things spiritual and metaphysical (though not religious,) but in particular I was always interested in application. I’d jump in with both feet and would see if it worked. I read Dianetics and it definitely appealed to this practical side of me. I had to check out this subject. On the other hand I had heard some pretty crazy things about Scientology, so I definitely approached it with a skeptical eye. I was there to do Dianetics, but didn’t want much to do with this Scientology stuff.
After a couple months on course, and having had some big wins, I did the Purif, which had an amazing effect on undoing the results of a ill-spent youth.
I was hooked at that point. I knew the tech worked. I was recruited for staff and spent 18 months as a book one auditor. And so I started the long, slow process of ignoring and justifying outpoints and degrading my integrity.
I’ll keep this short. I was on staff on 3 separate occasions, for a total of 5 ½ years. I was out-qualed for the SO, so thankfully I avoided that route.
I had a bad study bug so I focused my efforts on handling this. I did my KTL in Phoenix, then the LOC at Flag (in ’95, wasn’t too impressed.) Also I did the Student Booster R/D while there, then finally completed my student hat. I find the study tech tremendous. Without question I have certainty on the validity of this.
Also I’ve had amazing wins with confessional auditing. I never got hammered too badly in this area, so it didn’t spoil my love of getting an effectively delivered confessional.
Around 2005 I was getting screwed around in routing off staff and decided I’d had enough. I wrote a letter of disconnection and said I’d go to the 3 major newspapers in Denver if anyone tried to “recover” me. I had this notarized and Fed-Exed it to the DSA. It worked!
I actually got my copy of my declare about 6 months later. I spent about 5 years away from Scientology, and then got a call out of the blue from a friend in the church who tipped me off to the independent field. I went to the Freezone convention in Washington State a month later. That was fun and interesting and it was definitely a change of viewpoint from 5 years previously.
My point of view on the Freezone and independent Scientology is that it is “free-market Scientology”. You can choose your poison.
After a few months, and consulting some trusted friends, I decided I wanted a more strictly standard application of Scientology. I flew to LA and got 15 hours of auditing with Ingrid Smith. This was great, and it was a definitely a relief to get in session and get some BPC handled. Ingrid is a fantastic auditor. (Thanks, Ingrid!)
As I was mid Solo 1 from back in the church, she recommended I hook up with John Aaron Williams at The Courseroom in Georgia. I started making plans and moved to Georgia at the end of the year.
I’ve been on lines at The Courseroom since the beginning of 2012.
At this point I want to give John Aaron and Candace Williams a tremendous amount of validation for establishing and keeping The Courseroom going. I’ve been able to observe the intention it has taken
John on a daily basis, and the obstacles they have had to overcome to keep The Courseroom established and expanding. John’s purpose very clearly has been to deliver standard Scientology, and he has been successful in that purpose.
What I’ve gained from being on course to this point is certainty on the application of correct TRs and metering. I’ve observed that the meter, in itself, does nothing. But it measures the response of the PC to the quality and effectiveness of your communication. When you get the communication correct, the PC responds…You have the PC “in session”…and the meter will show these responses. It is brilliant in its simplicity, but does take drilling and practice to achieve. This has been a big win for me. Training does give one a certainty that does not exist as a PC.
I also very much wish to validate Gayle Smith.
Gayle was the Senior C/S at Philly org for plus 15 years, and in the face of continual and covert suppression built a team that 4x’d her org.
Concurrent with my being on course Gayle is auditing me on my grades. It’s come to my attention that Gayle has a detractor in the independent field. I wanted to give my 2 cents about Gayle as a technical terminal, from my direct observation.
I first met her when she and her boyfriend Kirk came up to meet John and Candy early in2012. She helped out in the course room. I was immediately impressed with her ability as a course supervisor and a metering coach. She was tough as nails, but my metering skill was increasing by the minute.
Subsequently when she took me on as a PC (Pre-OT), what very much impressed me about her, aside from her obvious skill in metering, her TRs and ability in assessing prepared lists, was her great care and intention in keeping the auditing session as real as possible. She would answer every question I had and made sure I understood exactly what we were doing. The result of this was I was always “in session”. She always demonstrated professionalism, intention and a very high level of care.
I think it has been an absolute coup for John to have Gayle’s agreement to be the senior tech terminal for The Courseroom. It has blown my mind on more than one occasion to interact with Gayle, whether as a course supervisor, metering coach or auditor.
I consider Gayle and Kirk, as well as John and Candy, to be very good friends and am very grateful to know them.
Shannon says
Great post, Mike and a very theta story. All the people you mention here are spectacular and caring. Makes my day.
jeb says
Mike, im dissapointed that you wouldnt post my question about the cost of auditing, It tells me that scam of scientology is in the indie movement too Do you do auditing also for thousands of dollars a session? I thought my Question about auditing cost was in good faith, and .it tells me you have something to hide. I will post my comment on Tony’s site and see what the ex scientologists say about why you would not post my comment. Thanks.
Mike Rinder says
Not sure what you are referring to. Send it again as I dont recall it. But I gotta tell you, anonymous people who sling around allegations about something of which they know nothing (no, I do not “do auditing for thousands of dollars a session” or any dollars a session) and who threaten to “put a comment on Tony’s/ESMB/WWP etc and see what they have to say” have normally turned out to be trolls.
What is it you want to know about the “price of auditing”? Apparently this is a question you are wanting to ask on behalf of some unnamed “others”?
Perhaps your comment disappeared when there were some problems with the site earlier today due to exceeding its bandwidth….
Just remember — you dont have a “right” to have anything posted here. If you want to have your say you are welcome to start your own blog.
Asthmatic Dwarf says
Touché, Rinder- Touché!
Tara says
Nice to “meet” you Mike. Thanks for the theta data! 🙂
Laura Ann says
Very nice, Mike!
It’s great to hear that you are happy and doing well. And, it’s wonderful that you have the care and support that only good friends can offer.
Mike Wreggitt says
Thank you, Laura Ann!
B.Webb says
Mike never said whether or not he “discovered the validity of the OT levels.”
Did you discover their validity, Mike?
It’s a little unfair to ask, as Mike is at the first step of a several step process of moving beyond Scientology.
Lots of people have been through the moving-beyond-Scientology process. Many left in the 1960s and 1970s. More left in the 1980s. And people are still leaving Scientology.
I hope Mike keeps us updated as his awareness changes.
Best wishes.
Mike Wreggitt says
Haven’t done them yet, B.
Whether I move beyond Scientology remains to be seen. I’m curious to see the results I get from doing the OT levels. One could pose the viewpoint that Ron didn’t deliver on his promises. He makes some pretty bold statements in the PDCs about what one can achieve in auditing towards ‘OT’, that I don’t believe very many people have actually achieved. In conversations with others who have done the levels, however, what’s been described is that some have achieved some pretty amazing abilities, though not to the extent described in the PDCs, or others have achieved that level of ability, yet it wasn’t stable.
Doesn’t negated the underlying theory, in my opinion, as these were new abilities achieved that weren’t there before, nonetheless. What I suspect is that, based on the theory that the physical universe is essentially a self-created, or co-created, trap (my paraphrase completely), that it takes one hell of a lot of work to raise oneself to a point of mastery above it. And while it is an addictive game, one also would REALLY want to do so.
I see the OT levels as the first baby steps, and one really has to roll up one’s sleeves after that.
We’ll see. As I said in my write up, I’ve gotten enough validation of the effectiveness of the tech up to this point that I will be continuing.
Peace.
Mirari says
The “hope and help” of standard tech raises awareness upward and I am impressed by the positive response from many folks of your write-up Mike W.. A yearning for this is so very primal. With my earlier wins with the tech I was gung ho, but then lost hope due to the squirrelling that went on in the Co$ and how so few wins of importance ever occurred after getting to Flag and how they always had a catch, i.e. leading to a requirement to spend more money. So, real good on you Bro for sharing this and thanks to Mike Rinder for getting it out to all of us. Carry on and keep on sharing. Theta is attractive.
Mike Wreggitt says
Wow, thanks, Mirari! Yes, my approach has been to see what this is all about, starting anew. I haven’t been disappointed. And I’ve been rehabbing how much I like being in an up-tone courseroom.
Robin says
I can’t resist:
Mike,
Is that an RTC Rep sitting on your shoulder?
😉
Tara says
LOL 😀
Mike Wreggitt says
The size and weight are equivalent, but he would be insulted to hear that anyone considered him as stupid as an RTC rep.
KFrancis says
A great success story Mike. A tip of the hat to you!
Mike Wreggitt says
Thanks!
Aquamarine says
I am so happy to learn of this good news about successful auditing AND training in the Indie Field. Skilled, honest, auditors who apply standard tech and charge fair prices for their excellent services. Honestly, this makes me so happy and I am planning on getting me some of this good stuff. Thank you Mike and Mike.
Mike Wreggitt says
Well, I highly recommend The Courseroom here. Thanks, Aquamarine.
Scott Campbell says
Great story Mike! I’m very glad to hear that John and Candace are making The Courseroom a going concern. Many thanks to people like you that have made it go right to accomplish the goal of getting trained! In the years ahead, standardly trained auditors in the indie field are what is going to assure the future of independent scientology.
You couldn’t be in better hands. Have fun.
Mike Wreggitt says
Couldn’t agree more, Scott. And I am definitely having fun. I would imagine this is what it was like in the early days, because we have a lot of fun.
Steve Poore says
Mike, thanks for sharing your great wins and providing proof positive that Standard Tech can be applied in an environment of well intended, above 2.0, actual Scientologist – and reminding us that despite all the noise, the most important thing is delivery of auditing and training. THE INDIE FIELD IS ALIVE AND WELL!
Mike Wreggitt says
Indeed! Thanks, Steve.
Formost says
What a fabulous success story.
Mike Wreggitt says
Thanks!
Penny Krieger says
What a great write up! Well done on all your successes Mike! I also left the Church in 2010 but I am with an auditor in the field that has moved forward with some innovative applications, much use of the processes in Creation of Human Ability and various expansions of others from the early SCN track. He has been and is the perfect auditor for me. There are many parts of the tech I formerly studied and use every day and there are some that I have left behind. An amazing win I had recently was after being in the Church for 42 years and having my case chewed up and spit out in 2005 with the Golden Age of Red Tags, was I actually had no regrets! It also helped a lot to get my former wins acked that had been run into the ground…which we did! Yippee!
We each have to travel our own road and I congratulate you on yours! The beauty of the independent field is duplication and the granting of beingness to others, no matter what route they choose.
Mike Wreggitt says
Thanks, Penny.
tony dephillips says
Thanks for this.
I enjoy hearing about people using the tech and having wins doing so.
Mike Wreggitt says
Thanks, Tony. It’s appreciated.
Rusty says
How’d you teach a squirrel to sit on your shoulder, dude!? HAHA
Mike Wreggitt says
Long story. He was a fun little critter.
Gayle aka TroubleShooter says
Thank you to Mike and to Mike for putting this good news out there. The more auditors we have in this world moving that tone arm the more we put things right and the better for everyone in their vicinity. People out here in the independent of cofs world are doing what we all thought we’d should be doing – FOCUSING on going up the Bridge.
Mike Wreggitt says
Thank you, Gayle. For all your help. As I said I will be continuing my auditor training, beyond Solo, and very much looking forward to your assistance when needed.
Dan says
I love to hear successes like this. Love it. Thanks so much for posting.
Mike Wreggitt says
Thanks, Dan.
Mike Wreggitt says
Thanks, Roy. Completely agreed about the difference in auditing from in and out of the Church. And in the course room as well. You are free to say ‘blah’ or ‘wft?!’, or what have you, and get an answer.
John Aaron raised an interesting point the other day with regard to policy; you can get vastly different results from the application of any given policy depending on whether the person applying it is above 2.0 or below 2.0 in tone level.
I don’t recall which tape it’s in, but in the congresses Ron talks about how the best administrators are auditors. I understand that the original Sea Org members were all trained auditors. I always wonder how things would have turned out if Ron had of kept in the requirement that one had to be a trained auditor to even apply for the SO. Who’s to say. I will say that based on what I’ve experienced so far in the course room and in session, I will be continuing.
Mak says
Thanks for the comm and hearing all the wins. Great to know about the course room! I’d like to go there sometime.
Mike Eldredge says
Another example of real Scientology. Real Scientology is available for those who seek it. The current defunct organization calling itself “The Church of Scientology” ceased to exist the day LRH departed and the organization usurped and perverted to its current state, those responsible are still in hiding at the Int Base under their puppet master.
As the Flag Intern Supervisor I trained hundreds of Auditors, Case Supervisors, Course Supervisors, Word Clearers and Cramming Officers from all over the world and these people are now at large mostly and very competent and have a real love for the application of Scientology.
They know , as I do, the workability of true Scientology Technology.
If you really wonder what the organizations of Scn should look like visit the http://www.savescientology.com website and carefully read over what is contained therein. One day this structure may actually take shape, in the meantime know that Real Scientology is out here waiting for any who want it.
Carcha says
Great post.
Tom says
Can someone please provide me with any information about The Courseroom in Georgia. I would like to look a bit further at this…..thanks 🙂
Axiom says
Here: http://www.iscientology.org/scientology-blog/471-the-courseroom
MaBű says
Here is the correct link:
http://www.iscientology.org/about-us/training/making-auditors
Tom says
Many thanks Axiom!
MaBű says
Will somebody please clarify.
Mike Wreggitt wrote the CourseRoom is in Georgia. However in the following web pages the CourseRoom’s address is Florida. Did they move from Florida the Georgia and didn’t update the web pages?
http://www.iscientology.org/about-us/training/making-auditors
http://community.freezone-tech.info/courseroom/about/
MaBű says
Ooops. Typo. I meant: Did they move from Florida to Georgia and didn’t update the web pages?
ingrid smith says
I am extremely happy to find a standard courseroom to send my PC;s,Pre-Ot’s to. I sent someone recently who I know will do very well. We need more trained guys!!!
I feel confident that Mike will do great on the OT levels as Ron says knowing how to audit is the KEY.
Mike Wreggitt says
Thanks again for referring me here, Ingrid. I’m looking forward to the OT levels, won’t be long at all, now.
Dan Koon says
Nice write up, Mike. I agree with your comments about the folks you mention. Poor DM only has people under him who are conflicted and at cross purposes from here to Sunday. In the independent field you only find people who want to be doing what they are doing and that makes all the difference. Good luck with the rest of your training and on your OT levels. You’re in for a nice ride.
Mike Wreggitt says
Thanks, Dan. I’m looking forward to it. And I definitely will continue on auditor training, after Solo 1.
Roy Macgregor says
Thanks for your great write up Mike. I love hearing about people stepping forward. I have also had really incredible auditing from an Indy Field Auditor and it’s for sure a very different gig to auditing inside the Church of Sciendollargy. Mike Rinder’s point about being unable to express things, having to watch what you say is a really good one. Suddenly all that suppression comes off and auditing becomes- well it becomes auditing- not pretending. You speak your mind and attack your inner concerns and troubles. Whether your inner thoughts are politically correct or not is completely irrelevant. What I am seeing is that Indy Scientology is the effort to practice the tech exactly as LRH originally wrote it and skip the admin and ethics systems. I find it interesting that where scorn and derision is directed at LRH it is focused on 1) Administrative tech and 2) his personalilty flaws. I have never heard anyone say “that damned ridiculous CS 53, with all those stupid questions”. Because a CS 53 is kind of interesting to read and can be a total delight to receive. People who are upset with LRH rail on that he said “make money” and the various flaws in the way he ordered the churches be administered. Disconnection was a monumental screw up, and there are many administrative policies that can be used to justify all kinds of bizarre behaviour. But boy, sit yourself down for some auditing done just exactly the way it’s laid out in the technical volumes and you can expect to feel prertty darn good at the end of session. I think there is a very bright future for Scientology Auditing and Training being delivered independent of the administrative/justice systems. L Ron Hubbard always wanted his writings to be judged by their workability. I would give 10 out of 10 for the technical processes and procedures of Dianetics and Scientology. Considerably less for the administrative policy as an entire body (though there are some true gems of wisdom and truth in there- Data series is pretty hot). I would have to rate 0 out of 10 for the Justice procedures. Perhaps minus 10. And workability would tend to bear that out. Scientology Justice procedures have torn the Church apart and created more enemies than there are members. Tony Ortegas website gets way more traffic than the official church website. Tony Ortega and Mike Rinder get more visitors to their websites than there are Scientologists in the whole world. You know you have some seriously unworkable techniques when tens of thousands of people despise you. I would of course give DM about 90% of that and others would argue. But who cares where the blame goes. The fact is that Scientology Justice procedures are a total joke, have made tens of thousands of enemies and continue to make far more enemies for the church on a daily basis than new people coming in. SHRINK, Shrink, shrink, shrink. Comm Evs are a joke. The Int Justice Chief is a joke. The Ethics Officers are a joke. Indy Scientology is the up and comer. The young with a bright fresh approach. Take the good and use it, toss the bad. Viva La Indy Revolution!
Bob Dobbs says
Great that you are happy, Mike. Rory, you really are a bright light on Mike R’s blog.
Peter says
I always believed LRH totally contradicted himeself when he described the difference between ethics and morals. Ethis are SELF IMPOSED and morals are having someone else stick you with a spear. (I’m sure my wording here is not totally correct, but the thought is pretty close to his intention in the article.) Then he went about setting up a systems where ONLY someone else can apply “ethics” and tell you what “condition” you are in. How incredibly stupid a move was that?
And to both Mikes, I was one of those who got fabulous wins from auditing, begining with an Indie mission holder (long before they were stolen) who was totally stable in his application of the tech. Huge wins, rapidly gained. Very few poor auditors in my lineup and always short lived as my auditors. Yes, much of the tech works. Even some of the admin tech holds water, but much less than 50%. Much of it was “make work” with a clumsy org board that no one could really manage and which attracted the power mongers like magnets. Oh, to have power OVER others! And, of course, the current little hitler was the exact and predictable product of such a setup.
So Mike, it was a delight to read your recent “adventures” with the sorts of results I and many friends of mine also obtained. Virtually all, of course, pretty much got out with the advent of Miscavology.
Thanks so much for putting your wins out for us to share.
ZZ~ says
Hi Mike W.!
What a fantastic write up and it’s great to hear about the wins you’re having with your training and auditing, as well as knowing that there is another course room here on planet earth that is delivering standard tech. I hope to get there one day soon to do my training. I’m currently listening to the PDC’s on a daily basis and having epiphanies on a daily basis. It’s truly about standard application across the dynamics using standard tech with out the squirrel additives that the Church of Miscavige has managed to impart as truth. Have fun and do well!
ARC-
ZanaZ~
Mike Wreggitt says
Hey Zana, thanks. I listened to the PDCs before I moved here. Amazing lectures! Will do!
calvin b. duffield says
Hey Mike, good to “see” you again. Nice that you could share your story on Mike Rinder’s Blog too!
The other plus is it has the added benefit of giving the guy a much needed chance to catch his breath, all things considered, since the dreaded internet viral attacks have turned the Count of Darkness into a seething, writhing, trembling nervous wreck, while glasses of undrunk scotch,get left all over the place, that is if they haven’t been spilled already. Of course, now finding himself “fangless” has left him with
scarce intake of the nutrient laden red $tuff, which kept him so very active, predatoraly speaking.
Hence the straight up and vertical strokes of the arm, intended to keep the scotch pouring down the
gullet in a feeble attempt to allay the REAL thirst for “blood & money” Sucks even more to be a “fangless ” Miscavige.
palehorse says
(waving at Calvin)
calvin b. duffield says
(waving back to Nance!)
Silvia says
THIS IS WHAT “INDIES” IS ALL ABOUT, AND MANY OTHERS OUT THERE TOO: DELIVER WITH ARC, EXACTNESS AND FOR THE PC/OR STUDENT.
IT IS SIMPLE: THERE IS PROGRESS FOR THE INDIVIDUAL AND IT WORKS.
VERY WELL DONE TO THOSE AUDITING AND SUPERVISING.
IT IS TRUE… PCS DO HAVE MARVELOUS WINS…SO, LETS KEEP AT IT.
KFrancis says
Hi Silvia….Couldn’t agree with you more. In fact I just got back to my room from session ( OT 5 ) and I am out on a win! I have had several floating T/A’s in the last couple of days and we are motoring through the level a pretty good clip.
Thanks for hooking me up with your pal ! The auditing can best be described as smooth, professional and full of honest concern for my well being. The tech of the level is pure genius. Impossible really that it could even have been figured out.
It has not been lost on me that I am a very lucky man/being to have gotten myself into the chair in front of this auditor…….Thanks again Silvia!
KFrancis says
Some of you may be wondering what the cost might be for this. Well ….It is very likely I will be going home at under five figures for the level……..believe it!
Jane Doe says
K Francis, this is good news! Who is your auditor on OT V?
Mike Wreggitt says
Absolutely true, Sylvia.
Jane Doe says
Thanks for sharing your great wins Mike! And so nice to hear of the professionalism and competence of Ingrid Smith, John and Candy Williams and Gail Smith. Scientology is alive in the field!
Mike Wreggitt says
You bet, thanks. Indeed!
Detlef Ruchatz says
Welcome!
Mike Wreggitt says
Thanks!
Sinar says
Great story – thanks for sharing Mike and Mike! Great to hear that LRH tech is being applied and used successfully outside of Sciendollargy!
Mike Wreggitt says
Lol. Thanks, Sinar. It’s definitely a lot of fun!
Ronn says
Good onya Mike. Some familiar tales but you’re persisting onwards and it sounds like you’ve landed a great team!
Mike Wreggitt says
Thanks, Ronn. Yes, a tremendous team!