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More Panic in the Bubble

November 1, 2022 By Mike Rinder 25 Comments

The best indicator of panic in the bubble is that Miscavige orders the “Turning Point” video be reshown.

In his mind, it is the “proof” that he is leading scientology to the promised land. It is the proof that he accomplished something L. Ron Hubbard couldn’t do. It’s the proof that despite all the bad news about scientology in the world, Miscavige knows what he is doing and everything is going to turn out OK.

In reality, it is the proof that he is seriously worried that too many rats are jumping off the sinking ship. The ad time they are buying isn’t doing it. The denials in the press are falling on deaf ears. The scientology slow-motion train wreck is becoming more real every day.

So, make everyone re-watch this event from 1993. Because. That. Is. All. He. Has. Left.

PS: What happened to Graduation?

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  1. Mat Pesch says

    November 2, 2022 at 4:42 pm

    So sad. I can see Miscavige hiding down in his bunker with his girlfriend Lou and security guards stationed outside his door. He is well through another bottle of scotch and is staring at a screen with a running loop of the event he did almost 30 years ago. He is muttering that he could have been someone if not for the SP’s !!! Lou cradles his head and wipes away his tears.

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  2. Angry Gay Pope says

    November 2, 2022 at 4:25 pm

    If you would like to watch the “Turning Point” video in its humongous entirety only Angry Gay Pope brings it to you here!
    https://youtu.be/Wugpw4eXuL0

    Reply
  3. Kathleen says

    November 2, 2022 at 3:30 am

    11.1.22 Netflix pulls Aftermath.
    Sad.
    5 years, Please Keep At It.
    This Outreach has touched so many.
    Grateful you’re addressing us too Mike,
    Disfellowshipped Jehovah’s Witnesses.
    I have a book to share, did not get published before his death.

    Reply
  4. Aquamarine says

    November 2, 2022 at 2:06 am

    “Because. That. Is. All. There. Is.”

    Laughter! I love your humor, Mike 🙂

    Reply
  5. Mockingbird says

    November 1, 2022 at 11:51 pm

    Something that I wanted to say while it’s fresh in my mind regarding the book A Billion Years is something Arnie Lerma said to me years ago.

    I wasn’t quite ready for it when he first told me as I just left Scientology and felt a lot of the anger, frustration, confusion, shame, and guilt was still fresh and that was a lot to deal with at the time, this was several years ago.

    He said, after a while, you can find humor in some of these things.

    I spent a year or so spending sixty hours a week trying to understand what happened and read a lot on psychology, cults, hypnosis and related topics and worked forty hours a week.

    The second year I was more settled in and spent forty hours a week on this and over time I have gradually reduced the time so that now eight years in I have entire weeks that go by in which I don’t pursue anything regarding Scientology and focus entirely on other priorities, which would have seemed impossible the first few years after I left Scientology.

    I can even go a month or more and realize I am not bringing it up or worried about it.

    That’s a shocking change.

    That being said, I think I am starting to get the distance to see things better.

    As Mike Rinder described in an interview, it’s nice when you start to forget the mottos and slogans that we rattled off endlessly in Scientology!

    I still could say lots of them verbatim and knew them by heart for the first four or five years after I left Scientology!

    They flipped from being absolutely true in my mind to utter bullshit when I left Scientology and realized they were lies and stolen failed ideas from other practices!

    Then I spent a few years listing them and writing about how Hubbard’s actions contradicted his words and how his words contradicted his words and his his words demonstrably contradicted reality. I did that for a few years.

    Then I stopped writing so much and really cut down and after the last couple years the need to know those words to have them as infallible truths is gone and now the need to have them as lies to debunk has faded. They are yesterday’s garbage and no longer worth hanging onto.

    The thing that I found dark humor in from Mike’s book is the absurd lengths and steadfast devotion to unmitigated cruelty that David Miscavige shows.

    Seriously, if you just take the accounts of the abuse David Miscavige handed out over and over to Mike Rinder and many others and filmed little reenactments that are exactly what happened the videos would portray David Miscavige as a pure sociopath and Scientology as utter lunacy!

    Think about it! I would love to see these events on film and the quotes from Scientology about being the most ethical group on the planet read at the end ! It would be hilarious!

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  6. Mockingbird says

    November 1, 2022 at 11:31 pm

    I just finished reading Mike Rinder’s book A Billion Years and am very happy that it exists.

    I am going to lend it to someone tomorrow and after they read it I plan to write a review and several posts related to it.

    I was in Scientology for twenty five years and in 2014 left Scientology.

    I ended up researching the origin and effects of Scientology in an effort to recover from it and expose it to help others recover and hopefully avoid it.

    I have written over five hundred posts online about Scientology and from my blog Mockingbird’s Nest blog on Scientology, ESMB, and Quora I believe my posts now have around a million views, some are reposted by others so that is more views I have no count on.

    I have read at this point maybe a hundred books in this effort on subjects from cults to psychology to rhetoric to critical thinking to propaganda techniques to trauma to neuroscience and other subjects.

    Among these have been a dozen to two dozen biographies of Scientology members, including a few on Ronald Hubbard himself.

    The number of cult bios I have read altogether might be thirty or so.

    I have found many to be helpful and informative in different ways.

    But I found A Billion Years to be in my opinion the best to explain to a family member what a Scientologist goes through mentally and emotionally and the reality of how cruel and immoral and ruthless the organization is as David Miscavige leads it.

    It has so many events that I experienced as a public member and at times staff member or even briefly a Sea Org recruit myself. It fills in the blanks on many aspects of Hubbard’s life, David Miscavige’s rise to power and inhuman cruelty in thousands of acts he carried out.

    David Miscavige might be the closest thing to a pure sociopath in the world, he certainly has no lack of evil acts and sadistic and cruel impulses!

    I think that the book better than any other I have read lets you see how a good person could be fooled into doing a lot of evil things for a cause if they think the cause is truly good.

    I have tried to impart this to outsiders and never quite got it to stick. Now I have a first book on what it’s like to BE a Scientologist and devote decades of your life to the group and devalue your family and abandon your own life and goals for Scientology only to come up empty at some point and initially blame yourself before realizing Scientology was always a fraud.

    I am very glad I bought and read this.

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  7. Linear13 says

    November 1, 2022 at 11:11 pm

    What I wonder is how much of the original 1993 video Miscavige is going to edit? He talks quite a bit about Rathbun in the original. In fact it was he and the Rat that went to the IRS offices that day unannounced. What about the rest of the Exec Strata that spoke that night? Are they edited out? Is the video that is shown only going to be Miscavige? The original is on YouTube. If there are any UTRs out there that see this latest version please clue us in if you can. Thanks in advance.

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  8. jim rowles says

    November 1, 2022 at 9:28 pm

    Coming up on the thirtieth anniversary of the only noteworthy thing in the physical universe that david miscavige had any part in. That project was long in the making and Ron stared it. david was there at the finish line and ‘took’ the credit.

    It would appear that Ron’s boots are at least 47X too large for the little feller.

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  9. Cayden says

    November 1, 2022 at 5:22 pm

    An event detailing how they cheated and forced their way into being accepted as something they know they truly aren’t!
    Fair gaming people and bullying people and coming out and laughing and bragging about it. Yet still thinking they are ethical and spiritual and here to save all humanity.
    That is this psychopathic cult in a nutshell.
    Without the mafia fair gaming criminal activities, Dianetics and Scientology would have ceased to exist in the early 1950s. They actually have no real legitimate basis for its survival, meaning people actually use it and get results and advocate it and it grows. That’s how real products and ideas and movements work. They naturally progress and can’t be stopped. They do it legally and ethically. Hubbard had to come up with techniques and go to very great lengths to stop critics and the the truth about him and his junk science getting out.
    This event is more proof they don’t deserve tax exempt status.
    It should be, and I believe eventually will be revoked.

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  10. Karen de la Carriere says

    November 1, 2022 at 4:44 pm

    Miscavige positions tax exemption something as great as the MOON LANDING.

    In reality, it was a con of deception and several lies told to the IRS one of which was they REFUND on demand.

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  11. Overrun in California says

    November 1, 2022 at 4:11 pm

    Stuck in a win. Yep, pretty stuck.

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  12. Ron Sterling says

    November 1, 2022 at 1:02 pm

    I read in your post today that your referred to “Rats deserting a stinking (sic) ship.”

    I couldn’t be certain if those were your words or the words of TLT (The Little Twerp).

    When I was a little kiddie, I had a pet white rat that I saved from a laboratory that was gonna croak her for some stupid reason. She was a very loveable little pet except for the fact that she dribbled a urine trail everywhere she went. For some reason, rats do not have urinary bladders like other mammals and that may be one reason why so many people hate them and want to kill them.

    But my question is whether you think of yourself as a rat or whether it is TLT who called you that. After all, you may not have that hateful prejudice towards rats like so many other people do.

    I wouldn’t make any hateful judgment against you either way. After all, any creature that dribbles a urine trail constantly would obviously spread disease everywhere they went and I can understand the human sentiment to exterminate rats.

    The truth could be that you don’t hate rats. Not all humans do.

    Where I come from, many people have pet rats and they are not hunted to extermination. People seem to be above that prejudice.

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    • Mike Rinder says

      November 1, 2022 at 2:34 pm

      It’s just a common expression. No more significance than that.

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  13. Fred G. Haseney says

    November 1, 2022 at 11:51 am

    On the morning of Sept. 11, 2001, I had already conducted at least one telephone interview with a client. I worked for a scientology Front group, Management Success, in Glendale, CA, and interviewed clients at the 6-week, 3-month and 6-month points of the company’ s program.

    Just as I reached a client who had been scheduled for an interview, word arrived of the 9/11 attacks. Being away from a TV helped me come to a decision. Whoever had orchestrated the attack on the second tower had done so knowing that most of the world had already tuned in to see what had happened to the first tower. What an evil act, I thought, and decided to never, ever see that footage.

    Shortly after L. Ron Hubbard died, and as I stood in the Hollywood Palladium and listened to David Miscavige tell us of the “events” sounding Hubbard’s demise, I made a decision to never, ever attend another scientology event.

    The same is true for all DVDs of any and all such events, so I have never seen the “Turning Point” video.

    There is a correlation of sorts between 9/11 and David Miscavige: they are both evil.

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    • Ron Sterling says

      November 1, 2022 at 9:12 pm

      Damn Straight!

      Fred, I sure do wish I could upvote your post.

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  14. AnEx says

    November 1, 2022 at 10:30 am

    And what happened to the annual IAS event?
    the annual Celebrity Center event?
    the LRH Birthday event?
    the DMSMH event?

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  15. Newcomer says

    November 1, 2022 at 10:08 am

    Yo Dave,

    That is very very old news good buddy. What else ya got?

    Any signs of Oh Tee Niner and beyond? How about those new tech vols???? And what about yer new and improved debriefing curse???

    Lets git on it, the natives are restless!

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    • Jere Lull says

      November 1, 2022 at 2:25 pm

      MustSavage can’t have anything like to original Briefing course which was intended to create auditors who could recognize and apply 100% standard tech. That it didn’t work as advertized didn’t matter. Davey can’t HAVE new Class sixes recognizing just how FAR he’s squirreled things around in order to fill his coffers. The way he’s arranged things, the ONLY folks interested in KSW any more are out here, looking in.
      Not that KSW could rejuvenate Dave’s tiny and shrinking fiefdom. But it COULD induce a few more folks to abandon ship before they drown.

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  16. Danielle Miller says

    November 1, 2022 at 9:49 am

    Who really benefits from the wealth of Scientology besides Miscavige? Is there a top echelon of people who actually get to enjoy the money that comes in? Or at the end of the day everyone is there to serve the “COB” and he is the only one that truly has the money?

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    • Jere Lull says

      November 1, 2022 at 2:34 pm

      At the end of the day, only Davey matters; everything and everyone else is there to serve the DwarfenfĂĽhrer®’s desires. He lives quite a bit more royally than Hubbard ever did — other than the cute little girls in hot pants breathlessly serving his every desire. And don’t try to tell me he didn’t get off on it. Remember Ron’s last wife was only 17 years old when he knocked her up, then he HAD to marry her.

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    • Ron Sterling says

      November 1, 2022 at 3:18 pm

      Just my guess. But history has made it very clear. In any society ruled by a dictator, it is the ruler who controls all the money and everyone else just lives in fear for their lives.

      Reply
  17. FalseTruths says

    November 1, 2022 at 8:52 am

    It wasn’t a stand for freedom, this is exactly how the church manipulates the truth.

    It was a stand for HIM and the church TO MAKE MORE MONEY.

    The product of the IRS decision was a richer church. Freedom my arse.

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  18. otherles says

    November 1, 2022 at 8:40 am

    Why do people object to the doctrine of Scientology?

    The doctrine of Scientology causes harm. The doctrine of Scientology causes harm to non believers. The doctrine of Scientology causes harm to believers. The doctrine of Scientology was lethal to a believer like Lisa McPherson.

    What has to be understood is that doctrine of Scientology is harmful to Human Beings in general.

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    • Peggy L says

      November 1, 2022 at 12:38 pm

      Well, you covered it all otherles! Words of wisdom and warning all in one.

      Reply
    • Jere Lull says

      November 1, 2022 at 2:41 pm

      ^^^, otherles. I wish we could upvote great posts like yours.

      Reply

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