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Names of the Flag OT Committee

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This is a lazy post today, so I can take a day off.

I am simply including the latest commendation from the Flag OT Committee which lists all the active members of the Committee. The mos gung-ho clapping seals of the Tampa Bay scientology community.

Scientology is trying to promote “I am a scientologist” but it’s hard to find out who they are so now their names (other than seeing them inside the magazine). Their names will now be searchable on google… If you search for CLEARWATER SCIENTOLOGISTS these names should show up.

This is the email they sent out:

 

The following OTC members are COMMENDED tor reporting their stats for W/E 11/14/2019:

ABBY JUNEAU

DONNA BARNA

LARRY TRAINOR

RALPH CRISCIONE

ALBA GRANDE

DOUG SADWICK

LAURIE JESSUP

RANDY YOUNG

ALDO STANZANI

DREW ROBB

LEANN DEMOTTS

RENATA MCDONALD

ALEJANDRA GUZMAN

DUNCAN PRINGLE

LINDA LOMBARDO

RIC ALIEN

ALEX ECKELBERRY

ED SHARP

LISA BRAGATO

ROB COLLEWIJN

ALICE BELLUCCI

ELIDE NARDO

LISA GALLAGHER

ROBERT FISHER

ANGELIKA ZIMMERMANN

ELKE JAEGER

LISA HUBER

ROBERTO BARBIERI

ANGELO PORTA

EMMETT OSBORN

LORI LITCHFIELD

ROSALYN SPAGNOLA

ANITA KAPLAN

FEDERICO LORENTE

LUCY HUGHES

ROSE CRAFT

ANNA PADDOCK

FRAN HUTTON

LUIS COLON

SAM LICCIARDI

BARBARA HAMILTON

FU MEI MATHERS

LYLE ROLAND

SARIT KIMCHI

BENJAMIN NAGENGAST

GABRIELA SUAREZ

MARCY SARGEANT

SERENA ZOCCATELLI

BETSY CRAMB GHLEDIS

CARLI CISARI

MARIA MERLO

SHANA SANDELL

BETTY CARLETON

GIOVANNI DE CLEMENTI

MARIA ROBB

SHARON (FIFI) BESIO

BILL RHODES

GRANT BOSHOFF

MARIAH NAGENGAST

SHELLEY ABATE

BOB DESIMONE

HANS HUBER

MARINA PUGGELLI

SHELLI MARTINEZ

BRIAN ANDRUS

HEIDI ZUCCHELLI

MARISA ECKELBERRY

SHERENE BLANKENSHIP

CARLOS LORES

HOWARD BECKER

MARY SPENCER

SHERYL SCHAFFNER

CARLY SENE

HOWARD GLAZER

MATTEO ZANIBONI

SIMONETTA BELLEI

CAROL GULASA

HUBERT HELLER

MICHAEL CHAN

SIOUX HART

CAROL STEINROCK

JACK WAUGH

MICHAEL PHILLIPS

SIOUXIE BOSHOFF

CATALINA BANCHERO J

AMIE MAVERICK

MICHAEL WALBY

STEPHAN KOENIG

CATHERINE LAPLANTIF

JANICE BATEY-ZIFF

MICHELA SCHNEIDER

STEPHEN QUINN

CHIARA LOCATELLI-GIL

JANINE TSCHUPP

MICHELE KENNY

SUE YOUNG

CHIARA STAPLES

JEAN DWYER

NANCY SADWICK

SUSAN FREILICH

CINDY FORD

JIM BRIDGEFORTH

NATASCHA HAUG

SUSAN MOORE

CONNIE HARRIS

JIM MATHERS

NICKY BAKER

SYLWIA HERBST

COOKIE LEONARD

JO STRUTHERS

PAOLA LOMBARDI

TAMMY GARDNER

CRISTINA BAZZANI

JOANIE SIGAL

PAOLO TUCCI

TERESA RICCARDI

DANIELA NESSEN

JOHN BUCKLEY

PAT CLOUDEN

TERRY TINKELENBERG

DAVID NESSEN

JOHN SPAGNOLA

PAT FANTILLI

TOM CUMMINS

DAVID NEWBERGER

KAREN WALBY

PAT PARODI

TOMOKO KATO DAYAMI

TORRES MODESTINI

KARILYN TRAMMELL

PATRICIA NEMETH

TONY MELVIN

DEBBIE SHARP

KATHY KARL

PAUL CHALUPSKY

TONY TWOMEY

DEE SNOOK

KATHY STRASSER

PAUL POLIVNICK

VALENTINA VACCARONI

DENISE WEISS

KATHY WACH

PEARL LANTZ

WIEBKE KOENIG

DENISE WIKE

KELLY DOBBIN

PETER SPECKER

YOLANDA RINCON

DIA BORNET

KENDRA COPELAN

RAFFERTY PENDERY

DONNA ANDRUS

KYRA DELAWARE

RALF HAUG

 

Comments

  1. One name that got me on the list was Larry Trainor. Any relation to Tenzing Norgay Trainor, the young Disney actor who was recently in the DreamWorks film ‘Abominable’?. In a youtube video Tenzing seemed reluctant to discuss his religious life and now this has me wondering:
    IS THIS KID A SCIENTOLOGIST?

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  3. If that many are commended for submitting stats, I wonder how many didn’t turn in stats. Though the OTC is pretty much voluntary, IIRC, I suspect they’re subject to “ethics” penalties when the mood strikes the OTC’s MAA.

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  5. OMG, SAM LICCIARDI is still in? He was at Flog as I left, I believe. Must be a real masochist if that is the same guy.

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  6. By the by …. I discovered a new organization that is scimular to AA (Alcoholics Anonymous) and NA (Narcotics Anonymous). It is called “SA” (Scams Anonymous) and it’s dedicated to people who are addicted to scamming others as well as people addicted to being the victims of scams.

    You would not believe just how many scams there are today in America. Ever since the TV show, “Aftermath”, began broadcasting, it seems like people started all kinds of new scams and they’ve come out in droves to participate in them. In a way, it’s most tragic because when thousands of people chase each other in big circle – each one trying to outscam another one, they form giant “scam circles” and all the money goes around in a circle from one victim to another. You might think that overall, it would become a “Zero Sum” game where no one makes any money and no one loses any money.

    But — apparently, the grandfather of all these scams (the Poop of Scamatology) winds up with all the money invested in empty buildings.

    Go figure! I guess the creep just has too much experience by now to let a single penny slip through his greedy fingers.

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  7. I was feeling kind of bored today and so I Googled a few strange terms – just to see if there were many hits.

    Scamatology – lots of hits

    Scamology – almost as many as Scamatology

    Scamaway – Interesting because this can be used in a sentence such as, “Join our scam and then feel free to scam away all your friends and relatives. You could become rich except for the fact that as soon as you scam someone, our scam will then immediately outscam you for everything you get.”

    Scamway – scimilar to “Amway”. It seems some folks have an idea they can start a new company selling soap bubbles. Most any kind of bubbles are an excellent product with which you can scam away all your friends and relatiives. Some of these hits make for interesting reading. Some people even ask about what it is like to be inside a scam bubble. I will have to investigate that.

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    • In a previous post, I said that most any kind of bubbles are excellent products people can use to start new scams. The reason for this is that this product is completely empty. It weighs essentially nothing and costs essentially nothing to produce. But it can be sold for as much money and you can imagine and you can con your friends and neighbours to pay as much as the traffic will bear. So very easy to make a fortune selling empty bubbles. Just like selling empty promises.

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    • Bill it may seem that when your outside looking in but they may be looking out at the culture and as hollowed out as the church is, it still may seem safer than the alternatives.

      Take Pat Parodi for example, he’s been around for decades. He knows a lot of people, has friends, made gains over the years, is drug free, gets money and high fives for bringing in new public. Why would he leave, he’s comfortable.

      I think at least some of the people on this list stay even though they know everything is not right, but it’s still right enough. The church still has enough to provide a spiritual adrenaline shot of hope that they are going make it to OT and have fun within the group along the way….🤷🏼‍♂️

      I’m out, but I get what’s holding these people in.

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      • Short answer: Lifton’s 8 Criteria For Thought Reform or Singer’s 6 Conditions For Thought Reform
        Both address the conditions that keep scientological delusion( “indie” or
        “corporate church” are simply turds of a slightly different texture) operative.

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  10. If they all reported their stats and some of those should include New Service Starts, then, how come Flag and the rest of ideal orgs are empty?

    Enjoy your day Mike!

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  12. Doug and Nancy Sadwick both worked in B1 (Intel Bu) of the Flag Guardian’s Office in the 70s AND 80s. They ran ops in the field and it is a surprise they’ve not been “deleted” by Miscarriage but are both now FSMing and on the OT Comm. Oh I forgot. The cult is all about “the money” so I guess these two can’t be discarded or that source of income would vanish. Disgusting. Totally disgusting.

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    • The cult eats its own. No new people are coming in. There are no “new public”, no “raw meat” walking in the doors. So the Still In vultures, whether staff, Sea Org or public, are constantly on the roam, searching for other Still Ins in good standing who will, at least, listen to them. They prey upon one another. Spotting any vulnerability, any weakness, any trust, they swoop down to eat, before the carcass is even fully dead. Then spit out the dead remains, and move on. They have no one but one another upon which to feed. Vultures are now eating vultures. And the food supply is dwindling. One day, when there’s nothing left to eat, they’ll show up at their disconnected families’ doorsteps, tearful, begging, whining, full of blame, self pity and excuses. A word of advice from someone not emotionally involved with any of these vultures who were once human beings: When this happens – and it will – don’t mistake the colossal act you’ll be treated to as “love” or true contrition. Just don’t. Help them, of course – you love them, after all, and always will. But don’t be fooled. They’ll need money from you. Inside they’ll be hating themselves AND you for what they’ve been reduced to.

      And make no mistake; they’re hoping for your demise now. Yes that’s right, you Disconnected From Ones! They’re counting on it.

      Your bad luck, your illness, your insolvency, your unhappiness and overall misfortune. Why? Because this will make them RIGHT for disconnecting from you.

      Any failure you have after they’ve dumped you will give them perfect justification in saying, “Poor Mom! Poor Dad! (Sis/bro/friend/spouse) Wouldn’t, couldn’t be handled! Refused to do their A to E! And NOW look!
      Look at ________’s condition NOW! Broke/sick/alone/unhappy/dead! What a shame! Well, I TRIED. I TRIED to get ______ to come back to Scientology. I did my best! But in the end I couldn’t let ______bring me down! I HAD to disconnect!”

      So, look, DON’T MAKE THESE BASTARDS RIGHT!

      “Flourish and Prosper”!!!

      You’re still alive! LIVE!

      Be well, do well, have well!

      Not only will this communicate STRONGLY to them, when the time comes, but it will make YOU feel LOTS better until they do.

      End of the rant that this unexpectedly turned into.

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      • Aquamarine.

        You are ABSOLUTELY right and I think the vultures (or maybe cultures) are already eating each other. My fingers are crossed.

        The last time I was at flag I was hit up by so many staff it was abhorrent. It included even auditors who’d wait outside the Examiner’s Room and pounce on me as I walked out. “Have you bought the newest book or lecture series?” “You need to up your status with the IAS”. “You can save income tax by donating for more service now”. Even had one staff member who my confessions had been shared with try to use them to get me to donate more. There is a “look in system” at Flag that records all sessions in audio and video. It is abundantly clear to me that Juicy stuff gets shared with the vultures.

        I have personally witnessed a member who was suffering cancer be totally abandoned by the cult. No matter how many others I contacted pleading for help in giving assists no one came forward. NO ONE in 4 months. The member died and 2 cultists attended the funeral. One was an OSA goon probably there merely to ensure there was no flap. Yes the cult is only about the money. Don’t ever count on them for more.

        Rant. Oh my friend. I could go off for days and days. So I understand you well.

        Since I took complete responsibility for everything that I suffered over the years I was in I am now out and happier, healthier, more prosperous than ever before. So I applaud your advice on be, do and have. Totally agree 100%.

        Happy turkey day

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        • Glenn, thank you for responding to me as you did. I never went to Flag (over the long years it was either “no money” or “no time”) but I knew and know people personally who had your awful experiences and have shared them with me first hand. And of course I’ve also read the stories out her on the internet. Really I have not the words for how beyond wrong and cruel it is to exploit people who are utterly trusting that they’re going to be helped…I don’t have the words. I’m so sorry you had these horrible, negative, betrayal after trust experiences, Glenn. I am REALLY glad though, that you confronted, that you “took responsibility”, that you are now doing well, that you’re now happy – so glad! Because THIS way, is the only way. The determination to NOT be done in by the cult, the postulate that one is still alive and that, as the man said, “Nothing is over until its over” not only helps the first dynamic, it DEMONSTRATES in the physical universe the LIE off of which the Still Ins are operating. When they SEE that their Disconnection and all the other lies and crap they dished out before they disconnected has NOT done you in, that you have, in fact, grieved, yet nonetheless gone ON to CREATE another life for yourself – WOW! THAT IS POWERFUL. A VERY powerful, impactful message for these fuckwits. Their heads will spin! They’ll wonder: “Why didn’t (Disconnected From) fail? Get sick? Die? How is it that he/she is flourishing, PROSPERING, doing fine? And without ME? And without Scientology? How is it that he/she is busy and happy and enjoying life with OTHER people to love now? Why, (Disconnected From) looks is actually, for real, HAPPY! Where’s all the grief? They’re UPTONE! They’re UPSTAT! HOW CAN THIS BE? ”

          LOL! It will blow their minds. In a good way.

          Not for nuthin’ as they say in Leah Remini’s neck of the woods – not for nuthin’ is it said that “Living well is the best revenge”. But in the case of someone who’s been dumped because of Disconnection, living well is NOT about revenge. (Alright, maybe a little bit 🙂 )

          Seriously, its about teaching them, SHOWING them, that they are operating off of LIES. By making very sure that YOU, the Disconnected From One don’t fail and instead succeed, you are doing THEM a service, and teaching them a valuable lesson they can apply for when THEY finally leave the cult.

          So, if you can’t find the heart to do it for yourself, flourish and prosper for THEM. Seriously.

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  13. You lazy bastard! Get back to your computer and write something critical. While doing that , you are allowed to eat a vegemite sandwich, while listening to some Cold Chisel and INXS, and drinking a Foster’s Lager. Now get to it or I will do it for you. Vegemite. Yuck.

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    • Spread the vegemite thinly, drink the Foster’s in moderation and listen to INXS in excess with a little Paul Kelly, Geoffrey Gurrumul and Midnight Oil on the side.

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    • Laughter – I think he should take the weekends off and the back and forth conversation on the rest of the week’s topics would keep the “stats up”.

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  15. Kind of a mix of ages, wealth, bridge position, donation potential. This could really be defined as the bubble within the bubble. There are some old timers and stallworth cultists, fo sho.

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  17. Giving out a commendation simply for reporting one’s stats has a ring of desperation to me. And what if their stats were down? Do they still get that commendation for reporting them?

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  18. What’s very telling is the folks who aren’t on the list. I recognized a handful from the 70’s. This tells me most of my old cult buddies are no longer under the influence. This is good news.

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    • WhatWall, I suspect that they’ve got about the same demographics of the few scns still involved, thus average age must be 65+ ‘Tis a shame they can’t enjoy the joys of being retired, living off of all we were forced to “contribute” to Social Security. Every day’s Saturday, the rat race is OVER. No worrying about “stats” if they bag the OTC garbage.

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