Now that Ron Miscavige’s book has been announced, I am offering some predictions on how his son will respond.
This is based on past experience and reading Martha Stoutt’s The Sociopath Next Door. David Miscavige fits the personality traits profiled in that book as if it were written exclusively about him.
More than likely, the responses will come from “Karin Pouw,” “Freedom” magazine or lawyers, even though dictated by Dave. He doesn’t like to soil his image by commenting on things that are beneath his lofty station in life like a book by his father.
But regardless of whom utters the vitriol, you can be sure Dave (or his spokespuppets) will not sit quietly. I have plenty of personal experience with the venom scientology spews when they don’t like what you say. And of course any time the subject is Dear Leader himself, it is magnified dramatically.
Ron can expect his very own video on the “Freedom” mag website where he will join some illustrious company: Emmy and Academy Award winner Alex Gibney — the “CIA spy” and “propagandist,” Pulitzer prize winning author Lawrence Wright — “who always gets it wrong” and Academy and Emmy Award winning writer and director Paul Haggis — “the Hollywood failure.” All of them are “failures” and “bigots.” In scientology parlance a bigot is a wog with attitude. If you are not one of us you are an enemy. Most are quiet and to be pitied – the run of the mill wogs. A handful are noisy and must be annihilated – the bigots.
Scientology will send binders of material to the media denouncing Ron: “Dead Agent” packs designed to “prove” that Ron cannot be relied upon for any information whatsoever, and asserting they should get the “real” story from a real reliable source, scientology. These packs also include information about their “massive international expansion” demonstrated by their “new buildings” – even though completely irrelevant to the story.
The “Dead Agent” materials will follow a familiar pattern:
- Ron is a failure at everything in life. He could not live up to the high ethical standard of the church and so was kicked out.
- As an apostate, he is bitter against his “former religion” like all apostates are according to “leading religious scholars.” He has an axe to grind and cannot be trusted.
- He is just trying to get rich — taking advantage of the good name of his son to gain notoriety and make money at his expense.
- Everything Ron says (other than anything good about David or scientology) is made up lies, none of it ever happened. There may even be a “provable bullshit” or two thrown in for emphasis – completely denying undeniable facts. But read the denial carefully — David may say he never heard of the PI’s that were following Ron and didn’t know their names. That could be true. It is standard practice not to use the names of such people — I am pretty sure David Miscavige never knew the names of Paul Marrick and Greg Arnold, the PI’s who monitored Pat Broeker for decades (before they were switched over to me and Marty Rathbun). But you can be sure Miscavige received regular reports on every move that Broeker (and then me and Marty Rathbun) made. He knew there were PI’s — he had ordered the surveillance be set up in the first place. But he probably didn’t know their real names. Interestingly, the PI’s that were caught following Ron were the same PI’s who had earlier been doing surveillance on me.
- There will be claims of the enormous generosity that has been forthcoming to Ron from Dave and scientology. How well treated his father has been.
- Ron is spiteful against his son for no good reason. David is a “man of goodwill.” His father is “stirring up hatred” and causing the great man endless suffering even to the point of people making “death threats” against him (see the clownish attempt to lay this on Marc Headley).
- David Miscavige is the poor victim — a selfless humanitarian who helps millions and is loved the world-over. It is tough being a martyr who helps so many.
- His father “doesn’t know anything about David” because he “abandoned him” when he was young. And he left the church X years ago so has “no idea what is going on today. The implication therefore is that his experiences are inaccurate and meaningless because that are “outdated.”
- David tried to help his father, but Ron is an ingrate and instead of being grateful is attacking him. David wants nothing from his father. David didn’t start the fight. He just wants to be left alone.
- Ron’s two daughters who remain under the spell of David (they have children in the SO and are beholden to him as he flies them to the UK for the IAS event and hires lawyers to get Denise out of trouble) will step forward to make outrageous claims about Ron. He was abusive towards them. He was a terrible father. David is the only one who has truly looked out for their well-being. These are perhaps the hardest things for the non-scientologists to understand. How can children be turned against their father like that? I know, there are letters from my children and ex-wife and brother and sister that the church uses to “prove” what they say about me too. They publish them and send them all over. These people think they are “saving their eternity” or protecting the one thing that can protect them. What usually doesn’t get noticed in these things is “why if he was so bad did they say nothing before?”
- They will utilize whatever they think are “buttons” taken from his pc folder. Things he might have discussed in auditing sessions that he felt uncomfortable or bad about. Disclosures scientology asserts repeatedly are absolutely sacrosanct. Until they are not, because “SP’s” have no rights. I once said in an auditing session when I was very young (being sec checked on the 5th dynamic ) that I felt bad that I had placedl tiny firecrackers is anthills as a child. This has been turned into “Mike Rinder tortured and killed cats by sticking firecrackers in their asses.”
- They will also claim Ron is part of a “posse of lunatics” or “cabal” or “conspiracy” – that he has teamed up with “other SP’s” like me, Dan Koon, Marc Headley, Steve Hall and others (he even went on an “SP Cruise” with them) and this is “proof” that he is an anti-religious bigot and hate-monger.
- They will accuse the media of being “biased” and “not listening to their side of the story” and yet completely refuse to be interviewed for any program or publication. They will only provide press packs and “statements to be published in full” accompanied by hollow legal threats.
You can take all the bullet points above and substitute me, Marty Rathbun, Amy Scobee, Marc Headley, Alex Gibney, Tony Ortega, John Sweeney, Lawrence Wright, Jason Beghe, Leah Remini et al and the pattern will be clear.
This is chapter and verse of the David Miscavige/scientology playbook for those who say things they don’t like. When these things appear in the future they can be seen for what they are. A desperate and by now predictable effort to avoid dealing with the truths about the abuses of scientology and its international ecclesiastical leader.
Ann B Watson says
Hi Mike,Is anyone else having trouble getting all commented posts to go thru to Mike’s Blog? As of 2/22/16 mine were not hitting the blog ,it will not take them.Thanks so much.Ann.
bob90805 says
Yes David Miscavige is an major SP. I don’t hate Ron or Scientology but, In my opinion DM is right up there with Adolph Hitler, Joseph Gobbles an Joseph Stalin. He has destroyed standard tech in the C of S. He has no idea of what a science of the mind is for. He needs to find out who he was and stop dramatising. The worst over is no auditing and that is what is wrong with the church.
Mike Wynski says
LMAO! DM is up there with people who slaughtered MILLIONS of human beings? He’s a jerk & a sociopath but YOU need an education. Desperately. And maybe some professional help too.
WalkSoftly says
There are several different ways of looking at ‘how bad’ a sociopath/psychopath is. One can look at how high they score on Hare’s checklist.. what they are capable of doing given enough control &/or power. Another is by what they’ve actually been able to do because they happened to be (or created) a situation in which it affects many people.
There are top scoring psychopaths that create havoc and destroy (‘only’) a handful of lives, but to those lives who were destroyed, it is their everything. However, I cannot help but think of North Korea when thinking of Lyin’tology. From what I’ve read almost the entire country lives ‘in the hole’. Beginning with Kim Il-Sung and his ‘charismatic authority’ personality cult leadership, which has been succeeded and continued by his son & grandson, it is a lesson that such sociopaths don’t only exist in the form of a cult, but can exist as leaders of countries.
GATchild says
While you have a valid point, I still hold with Mike M’s statement that the comparison is a straw man at best, allegory and drama at worst. In fact, this is the black and white tactic that the Church uses against people. It certainly doesn’t make any argument sound sane to compare DM to Stalin or Hitler. In most circles, it’s enough to get your opinion relegated to Godwin’s Law, and any valid points immediately become a moot point.
I’m not defending DM in any way. I was directly subject to his brand of cray-cray for eight years, and it took me another eight to shake it off. I consider him one of the more dangerous people to trust with people’s well-being and sanity. But he’s nowhere near the people listed above.
WalkSoftly says
GATchild. I get what you are saying and I agree. I understand Goodwin’s law and one must be careful not to throw such things around lightly. That said, I think it is wise to keep the *potential* of any given sociopath in mind. No, DM, as awful as he is, isn’t ‘as awful’ as some of those other tyrants because his scope/universe is smaller. Given the chance, who is to say what he would do? From everything I’ve read about him he certainly has the *potential* to be every bit as awful. Hopefully that will never be realized. Early in Hitler’s political career, people laughed at him and never thought he’d be elected and that everyone could see what a flawed person he was and so did nothing to stop him until it was too late. These things have a way of snowballing.
I am sorry for any abuse you (and anyone else) endured in Lyin’tology. One of my parents was a sociopath and I’m always leery about the damage they can inflict. Small or large scale. And what is equally sad is that people can’t always see it. You can warn them, but they often can’t see it until it’s caused a great deal of harm.
Aquamarine says
Couple of things:
First, I love when you make these predictions, MIke, because then when they come true, Miscavige looks even more like an idiot for taking your “advice”.
Of course it isn’t YOUR advice, but the full panoply of OSAs dead agent playbook, based on the stable datum policy of “Always attack, never defend”. Co$ MUST handle with some version of this because it is policy, its scripture, and as such, must be followed in all such circumstances. When their D/A packages come out, when Ron Sr starts getting publicly smeared by this “church” its going to be rough, rough, rough for any still in to hold up hir head, and I believe it will cause the still ins to go even further out of communication with non-Scientologists than they’ve gone already. And, I am chomping at the bit for the book.
The second thing is to wish you a very happy Blog Anniversary, and to thank you for the work that you do. It is appreciated and, most importantly, it is effective. The pen IS mightier than the sword..
Robert Almblad says
I pre-ordered my hardcover copy on Amazon last night…. can’t wait to read it!!!
marie guerin says
Me too , I placed the order.
In view of all the bad publicity cob received last year , I don’t see how any kind of rebuttal to this book could help him.
But he will try.
As far as I know , Ron Miscavige had a wonderful reputation many years ago , the people still in , ages 50 to 70 will remember.
Karen#1 says
There is one more thing Media have reported to me. The Cult sends a lot of information to the media on a target, much of which is *Manufactured* and this comes from a law office marked “private and confidential” Under the cloak of secrecy Scientology inc can make up anything and this is sent with stealth unbeknownst to the Ex Scientologist.
Ann B Watson says
Hi Karen#1, Thank you for another post with amazing info. That is one thing that still bugs me about this cult.Stealth,secrecy,spy games it is all there.I am getting memories of times in Sea Org where all my personal PC files were passed around Intel and there was not one thing I could do about it.
The lengths cos will go to protect the scam knows no bounds.You are so brave and I love your comments.xo Ann.
sebrina says
GREAT JOB! You did an excellent job of explaining how they respond to a threat whether the truth is stated or not. Keep up the good work!
gtsix says
“In scientology parlance a bigot is a wog with attitude.”
That made me chuckle.
Have the book on pre-order, can’t wait to read it, Good luck to Ron Sr and his wife, may they make a ton of money on this book and may it keep shortarse up nights waiting to see what his daddy has to say about him. I doubt that he cares at all, but it must enrage him so very much.
Hey Lou, your out 2d has no one left who loves him. What does that say about you? Run girl, while you still can.
Ann B Watson says
Hi gtsix, I echo all you posted.Dm being after my time,I cannot wait to read my copy either.
Happy Spring,cherry blossoms and Sunshine to you always.xo,Annie.
SadStateofAffairs says
I don’t see how Miscavige can use the usual playbook for dealing with this. Statements from Karin Pouw will be worse than useless to deal with it. If Miscavige does not respond himself, it will become a major negative against him. And the usual church character assassination done, while Miscavige remains silent, is going to also be another negative against him. No easy way out, no shortcut home on this one.
jgg2012 says
“Mr. Miscavige is too busy running the world’s fastest growing religion to respond to these ridiculous charges. In fact, he works 100 hours a week at little pay. I thus will reply by telling you that anyone who says anything negative about Mr. Miscavige is a bitter, defrocked apostate.” — Karin Pouw
hadley says
The comments made if by Karin Pouw are a joke . !!!
Old Surfer Dude says
Bwahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha!!!!! Now that’s some funny shit! Wait…..what??? She was serious??? Bwahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha! Now that’s some REALLY funny shit!
Richard says
In this case they might just throw out the usual playbook. “This is just another fictional attack on the Church of Scientology and Mr. David Miscavige and we choose to ignore it”
Richard says
TROUBLEMAKER and now RUTHLESS. Those are two very nice words for the public to associate with the Church of Scientology. Great title!
RONNIE L STACY says
Mike, love ya much for all you do dude. A little bypassed charge? Maybe let it go. ML man.
Mike Rinder says
Let what go? My children?
Old Surfer Dude says
Mike! NO! You can’t let your boys go! Look, I’ll come out and…..wait…..what? Ok, you’ve got it handled. My bad.
Chee Chalker says
Ronnie, how about you think for yourself and stop using the nonsensical lingo of a cult?
By-passed charge….. Really?
ML? Ha! Love is not on the Tone Scale!
If you want scientology to have a future, you have to cut out the cancer that is David Miscavige.
I think Dave is the one who needs to ‘Let It Go’
Mike Wynski says
Talk about predictable. Miss Cabbage is about to get publicly trashed so he sends out his Flying Monkey Trolls to Mike’s blog.
Ann B Watson says
Hi Mike Wynski, Liked your post, thank you for first the laugh and then those darn Flying Monkeys.Scared me to death as a child and intensely dislike them now.Yet a Flying Monkey Troll is hilarious and creepy all at once. I will leave the night light on tonight! Love,Ann.
Mike Wynski says
Dear Ann,
Just like in the movie, when the “Witch” is melted they will all turn nice and thank their rescuer. 🙂
So, sleep tight.
Ann B Watson says
Hi Mike Wynski,Thank you for your wise advice.Slept tight last night and no monkey-troll lurkers came to my door.xo Ann.
I Yawnalot says
Yes, it’s interesting to note that the most obvious non-Scientologists are Scientologists themselves. The easiest way to tell a troll is that they use or relate to Scientology jargon in day to day jibber. There is nothing sharp about them, like using a dull knife on an overripe tomato.
Dio says
CO$ has tax exemption status revoked.
http://abcnews.com.co/united-states-revokes-scientologys-tax-exempt-status/
Dio
Mike Rinder says
This was going around last week. It is a fake news site.
I Yawnalot says
LOL, please excuse me… Axiom 10
Espiando says
Guess that the ability to read a URL isn’t in Hubbard or the Bible, so you don’t know how to do that. Or maybe you really believe that ABC News has its website coming out of Colombia. You know, the country where The Way To Slappiness reduced crime by 80% and eliminated the drug trade.
Chip Northup says
So….I’m guessing honor thy father is not part of ethics in the COS (Unless if by “father” you mean David Miscavige.
dyir says
I noticed how no one has mentioned the rape that Ron was accused of and is the published reason why he quickly joined the SO (Piece of Blue Sky). I am not sure if the charge was dropped or settled but I would bet a decent stack that SOB might elude to this later esp. if the charge was settled because SOB would be the one who paid it.
Mike Rinder says
He was accused and the accuser, when she saw him, said he was not the right guy. It was not settled, the case was dropped. And yes, David did arrange a lawyer to represent him. You can be sure it will be covered in the book. Why would anyone have “mentioned this”?
dyir says
I thought it might have been a major part of the dead agent pack that would have been sent to the media, the actual facts do not always matter to Co$ and could be spun to look very bad for Ron if the reporting is lazily done by the journalists
dyir says
Just to follow that up: I didn’t know the accusation was dropped only that Ron quickly joined the SO after the accusation so he could get Co$ protection and that is coming from a well respected book such as ‘a piece of blue sky’ where even there it is rather sensationalist in the mention of the accusation and no mention of the case being dropped!
Mike Rinder says
Yes, but John Atack had no first-hand knowledge of the circumstances — people may respect his book but it doesn’t make it accurate. And he is really the wrong source for such information. He had no way of knowing what happened.
I Yawnalot says
That statement pretty much sums up a lot of things about John Atack. Popularity does strange things to some people.
Mike Rinder says
Yes, that is true. To allege your father was charged with rape when you know full well what happened is a pretty hard thing to get around and it sort of proves everything that has been said about the guy….
Chee Chalker says
I think its a safe bet that Mr. David Miscavige will be the one to bring it up. And leave out the facts that you did (that case was dropped)
I think the only other hand Dave has to play is to say dad mistreated the sisters who are still beholden to him (Dave) and maybe infer dad cheated/abused mom.
Regardless, this will make for an awkward Thanksgiving…..
Chee Chalker says
Edit to add: ‘leave out the facts that you reported’
Peter says
Chee, now that the issue has been raised publicly, it will probably take much of David’s response. Should he go ahead and use the information anyway, he will look even more the fool. A very nasty fool, but a fool nevertheless. PS WordPress is driving me nuts as it won’t let me log in!!!
Chee Chalker says
Hi Peter!
The chance of looking like a fool has never stopped Dave before. He just can’t stop himself from shooting the foot bullets.
I almost feel sorry for him sometimes….. almost…
He is surrounded by people too afraid to be honest with him.
Of course, he doesnt really want the truth because he can’t handle the truth!
Miscavige clearly doesn’t see his father as an authority figure (as most people view their parents). He just seems him as another SP who is making like hard for him.
I’m looking forward to the ‘church’s’ response almost as much as I am looking forward to the book!
singanddanceall says
I think it’s time for a “White Rose” campaign for all ex members to send to their local orgs a leaflet of Tony O’s blog or Amazon page of the book:
http://tonyortega.org/2016/03/16/ron-miscavige-book-out-in-may-ruthless-scientology-my-son-david-miscavige-and-me/#disqus_thread
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/White_Rose
“The White Rose (German: die Weiße Rose) was a non-violent, intellectual resistance group in Nazi Germany, consisting of students from the University of Munich and their philosophy professor. The group became known for an anonymous leaflet and graffiti campaign, lasting from June 1942 until February 1943, that called for active opposition to dictator Adolf Hitler’s regime.”
Letters Out is the stat, how ironic.
singanddanceall says
or should I say “letters in”
Old Surfer Dude says
Nope! It’s all letters out and no one is responding…..
Victoria Pandora says
I never knew this either!
I’ve seen the situation referred to all over the net, but never a succinct or more importantly, trustworthy word on what came of it.
zemooo says
“taking advantage of the good name of his son to gain notoriety and make money at his expense.”
Said no one ever in the real universe.
Aquamarinie says
That’s funny! His and the cult’s PR is so bad that Tom Cruise and other celeb whales now REFUSE to discuss Scientology in the media. . David Miscavige’s good name… sure, real good.
unitedunderGod says
I’m so excited about the book. One very important thing that dave should ALWAYS keep in mind is … What goes around come all the way back around! Abusing people and seperating them from the people who love them most is unacceptable. And the way it’s looking, it’s all gonna come to halt!
Old Surfer Dude says
An unmitigated halt. The kind of halt where you slam into concrete wall and splatter yourself all over it. That’s the kind of ‘halt’ I’m talkin’ bout.
OTVIIIisGrrr8! says
The catalog of Psychiatry’s attacks upon Scientology is extensive and goes back to the Psychs at the APA savaging Dianetics and then sending in oilman Don Purcell to bankrupt the Wichita Foundation in order to purchase the rights to Dianetics at auction. Had Purcell succeeded in his diabolical plot, the Commies would have had used Black Dianetics and the A Bomb and this would have spelled doom for the West.
As for OSA’s so-called “attacks” on bitter defrocked apostates: The Church must, as a matter of principle, fend off the posse of lunatics seeking to besmirch the flawless repute of World Savior David Miscavige.
The technical fact is that only those who do not want people to get better would oppose Scientology and World Savior David Miscavige.
Only those out to make a quick buck would attack World Savior David Miscavige.
The very fate of every man, woman, and child on this agonized planet hangs in the balance. Each and every time World Savior David Miscavige is attacked the scales tip away from sanity and towards death, hell, and destruction. Is this what you want for your children? Of course not — particularly as they have such a bright future in the Sea Org!
We in RTC call upon all peoples to embrace World Savior David Miscavige and oppose those bitter defrocked apostates who would plunge this world into thermonuclear Armageddon as part of their macabre wholetrack plot to enslave beings for eternity.
In happier news, World Savior David Miscavige just announced the imminent opening of KCET.
By way of this announcement, we need to R factor you on a vital datum.
$500 million dollar state of the art production facilities are like e-meters: You need two in case one breaks.
And so it is that the imminent opening of KCET approaches, albeit glacially just like the Super Power building. Every detail in that facility was painstakingly reviewed ad nauseum at least 1,216 times to ensure that every detail is perfect. For example: Is there the proper type and amount of lubrication to ensure that each and every door swings upon its hinges correctly?
These details may seem trivial to the jaded wog mind bu they become matters of obsession that loom large in the fevered and overwrought mind of World Savior David Miscavige.
Finally, by way of concluding, World Savior David Miscavige has just issued an ecclesiastical decree that no wire hangers are to be used in the wardrobe department of KCET. Did you get that? NO WIRE HANGERS!!!
Jose Chung says
David Miscavige, saving the World from their Bank Accounts !!!!
He will be “Saint Moneybags”
Dr Strabismus of Utrecht says
Congratulations on your third anniversary in the blogosphere, Mike 🙂
I wonder what would happen if Shortarse changed tack from the usual dead-agenting routine you describe so succinctly (highly unlikely, I know, given his sociopathy) and actually tried to respond to Ron in kind with a book of his own? Not much, I’d guess: https://www.flickr.com/photos/marksshoops/25911162745/
OTVIIIisGrrr8! says
Blasphemous Psych!
visitor says
World savior Fleet Admiral Captain David Miscavige, the world’s #1 expert in SCOHB, is too dumb to write a book.
T.J. says
I’m looking forward to the book too, I’m sure he’s got some really interesting stories to tell.
One of my favorite books is “Blown for Good” by Marc Headley. The book is written in a straightforward manner, a friendly ‘voice’, he sees things with a generous helping of humor and it feels very honest. It’s such a good book. Jefferson Hawkins “Counterfeit Dreams” is another of my favorites, I always highly recommend this book.
Other books on Scientology that I recommend: Nancy Many “My Billion Year Contract”, Jenna Miscavige Hill “Beyond Belief”, Lucas Catton “Have you told all?”, Amy Scobee “Abuse at the top”, John Duignan “The Complex”.
There are also the big books that are more all-encompassing and include history of LRH and so forth: “Going Clear”, “A piece of Blue Sky”, “Inside Scientology” etc. But there is something about a first-person story written in their own voice, relating their own recollections of experiences that I find very compelling and interesting, so I am looking forward to reading Mr. Ron Miscavige’s memoir.
Chee Chalker says
Is there any advantage to being a Miscavige in the Co$?
It sounds like Jenna was treated poorly, same goes for Ron Sr.
Mike Rinder says
Only if your first name is David. Shelly hasn’t fared too well either. Same with his brother and sister-in-law.
burnedbutnotbitter says
Mike, I recently read The Sociopath Next Door by Martha Stout due to Marty, Steve Hall, and your recommendation. It is particularly interesting to Scientologists, ex or otherwise. I believe you are referring to the Super Skip character in chapter 2. But I recommend this book to everyone. It personally helped me.
T.J. says
I agree, that’s a terrific book. It’s totally on point and so accurate. I also recommend it highly.
McCarran says
Yup. Chuck the whole PTS/SP Course and just read The Sociopath Next Door. Says all you need to know in a short concise manner.
WhatWall says
I read it on Mike’s recommendation too. It’s one of those books that should be included in everyone’s basic education. We live in an age of almost unbridled sociopathy.
Although the subject is unpleasant, the book affirms the basic goodness of most while revealing the ways of the sociopath. I could hardly put the book down. Don’t let the subject matter discourage your reading it!
basketballjane says
Mike. I think all of your synopsis would be 100% true if it were you or Marty or anyone else that had worked at Int with Dave. The website smear campaign would be full blown. But this is his father. If he goes after him like that he would have to admit that he is PTS Type C because now his niece and father are attacking the church and he would have to step down from his post because he is no longer quelled. But in true LRH fashion he won’t do that as LRH didn’t when Nibs was speaking out. LRH was also type C but never stepped down. This will be a tricky road and I am interested to see what happens.
Interested Party says
Excellent point.
Rick Mycroft says
Happy third blogaversary!
i-Betty says
I’ve lost the ability to comment here for some reason, but I want to join with Rick Mycroft in wishing you a very happy 3rd anniversary. Your blog goes from strength to strength and long may it continue!
i-Betty says
Oops, sorry to confuse. I meant to say that I have lost the ability to write a new comment but I am able to respond to others’ 🙂
Old Surfer Dude says
iBettty. Is that a new product from Apple?
McCarran says
Yes. Happy Anniversary. Glad you appeared when you did. I would love to be able to say that within the next three years the need for this blog will be no more because your job will be done and so the church of david miscavige.
Ann B Watson says
Hi McCarran, I am laughing at myself because I feel like I sent the wrong ” telex “Miss Ann is not as fleet of memory as when young.So either the third anniversary of this blog or Mike’s b-day or both,it is all good.Laughter.
I too wait for the day when Mike’s Blog will not be needed and we will have won. xxoo Ann.
Aqua Clara says
3rd anniversary! I know enough to trust RMycroft’s memory as he remembers this date.
Congratulations, Mike! You’ve made a huge difference in this fight. But most important, I’m glad you and your wife are out, free, and happy. Wishing you both the best in the days and years ahead.
Jens TINGLEFF says
Seconded (or is that thirded?)
Phil says
Anyone who can blow the horn as well as Ron Sr. can’t be all that bad…
markthehungarian says
One of your best posts, IMO. Top ten.
I think your prediction will be shockingly accurate.
Peter says
Shockingly accurate because that’s what Daveyboy ALWAYS does. He’s incapable of change as are all sociopaths. I would love to know how/when the changes took place in his personality…and why. Perhaps the father’s book will shed some further light on this dangerous and deranged individual.
lagunascott says
Great synopsis Mike. The true blessing of this whole thing is that by the time Miscavige is done, the Church of Scientology will be utterly dismantled – and by no one other than himself. Thank you for your tireless vigilance, laser focused insight and courageous reporting. You are an amazing person and we all owe you a debt of gratitude.
McCarran says
Hear Hear
Old Surfer Dude says
Mary, are you hard of hearing? You said hear twice.
RogerHornaday says
How will TOM CRUISE respond? He’s going to have to stand up for his best friend in a very public way. He will be fighting mad that the most generous and COMPASSIONATE person he’s ever met could be maligned so savagely! If somebody lied about my best friend like that I would have my battle gear on. Yes, Tom is definitely going to stand up before the media in defense of David Miscavige you can BET on it! Or not. I’m sure he would like to but he IS awfully busy with his movie career you know. And besides, it’s probably best not to get in the middle of a family squabble.
hgc10 says
He’ll have to stand up for his friend? Why? All interview topics are pre-screened. No one will ask him about David Miscavige.
RogerHornaday says
hgc10, you would elect to stand up for your friend wouldn’t you? If he was the most compassionate and generous person you ever met…it would be the only decent thing.
hgc10 says
Roger, I am not Tom Cruise. The decent thing that I would hypothetically do has no bearing on what he will do. It’s hard to put myself into Tom’s shoes. Besides the fact that I’m size 10, I can’t imagine I’d ever call such a big being as Miscavige my friend.
roger gonnet says
Good prédictions, Mike. I know youi can sing the whole air since décades!!
james hollingsworth says
Ron Miscavige has opened the lid of the “trash can of infinity” a little more. The more people see what’s inside, the less recruitment, credibility, money, and member involvement there will be. And the FBI is waiting to pounce. If they “got” John Gotti, they can get ANYONE. And they’ll “get” the Malignant Dwarf too. Only a matter of time.
windhorse says
My very best to Ron Sr. and Becky …
Several years ago, I had the good fortune to be re-introduced to Ron Sr. (who I had met first when I was in the SO and later when I was public) shortly after Ron Sr. left the church and was still very very under the radar.
I believe this must have been difficult in the extreme for Ron Sr. because when we were talking (about 3-4 years ago) and he was very newly gone — there was a great deal of “de-compressing” going on …
He then and perhaps now still credits Hubbard with valuable work. (I personally think its a fluke when something of value came/comes FROM scientology to my life but this is me and I begrudge no one who continues to credit LRH with value and continues to practice scientology outside of the church)
ANYWAY — KUDOS Ron and Becky — may you have a TON of books sold, TV appearances and a long and prosperous life …
Love,
Windhorse
dankoon says
Mike, it sounds like you have been down this road before. Here is the chilling part about it all from COB’s perspective: nature abhors a vacuum, as we all know, but that particular vacuum is David Miscavige himself and the only way he will be able to fill the vacuum is by he himself talking. Karin Pouw or his sisters speaking for him will not cut it, not now when his own father is filling the vacuum for him. Basically, this is checkmate.
One Point Won says
Thank you, Dan Koon, for your brilliant participation in the production of this vital book!
Of course, I cannot wait until its May release, and so I already paid a pre-release (discounted) price for the Kindle version…as if a prepayment could possibly speed the release of this book and the subsequent demise of the David Miscavige—Reign of Error.
PS And thank you again, Mike Rinder, for your magnificent blog!
lagunascott says
And in DM’s now (clay) pigeon like fashion, he will land on the board, knock over the pieces, shit all over it and strut around like he’s won…
freemindsfreehearts says
DanKoon, that is a very insightful comment and explains why DM is so scared of this particular book coming out. I hope they do not bully St Martin’s int canceling it. Thank you to you and to Ron for your courage.
sashiebgood says
I was just reminded of the passage in Going Clear when Lawrence Wright recounts a time when DM was a child and had to be left with another parishioner (can’t remember his name now) and the family warned that man to not touch DM if he were to have an “attack” (didn’t sound like asthma) because he would become violent – i think the sister said “oh my god, he does beat you.”
whatever is wrong with DM, it started early on and has been fed by the power he has managed to accrue during his time in scn. I’m sure the “church” will defame Ron, for all the things that you list, and many people will think he was a shitty father – but the church never allowed people to be good fathers to begin with, especially in that Era. many parents and children were separated, any parental relationship was actively disturbed by the machinations of the church, both in LRH’s time and in DM’s. LRH because he wanted everyone to worship him, and DM because he is afraid of children and the depth of feeling people have for their offspring. He splits up families because the family unit doesn’t mean anything to him, he doesn’t have anyone that he loves, everyone is disposable. whether this aspect of his personality could have been tempered if his family had never gotten involved in scn to begin with is debatable. I tend to think he would have ended up just as sociopathic, but on a much smaller scale. but perhaps not. taking someone with those tendencies and placing them in an environment that is designed to make people sociopathic just poured gas on the fire.
in any event, he’s a coward, and people will see that. There is no way that the COS can hide Ron’s book from everyone, and it will make Scientologists wonder why the father of Dear Leader is calling him Ruthless. and the fact that he will not come out to defend himself, because we all know that that is the one thing he will NOT do, will make people wonder too.
Mike Rinder says
Ron says that passage in Larry’s book was totally manufactured by the guy who told it to him.
sashiebgood says
oh, really? I didn’t know that. sorry to have put forth something false.
Valerie says
Scientology continues to be a parody of itself. When I first got out, I still had respect for scientology, and a great fear of them.
No respect left here and the fear has been diluted greatly as more and more people are pointing fingers and laughing. It is interesting to see that the only people still afraid of scientology are those who are still in it.
That being said, I do hope Ron Sr. has safeguards in place. The vitriol will be laughable, the attempts to silence him may not be. It’s good so many of us have his back.
Ann B Watson says
Hi Valerie, Thank you as always for stating points vividly and with foresight as well.I agree so with you about having each others’ backs. The big rip in the fabric of Scientology is the Internet I feel. For some bizarre reason that fact remains out of reach for the still ins whales celebs.Even KCOB in not the huge innovation dm is making it out to be.Fool’s Gold is what he offers the sheeple that still follow him.Yes I want Ron Sr and all who speak out and up about the cult of cos to be safe on their paths.Dm can have the best security force on the planet and the piles of money all over.Yet he knows no true love not what we can have when freed from the grip of cos.Love,Ann.
Regraded Being says
When I was being “Regraded” by the church, my case supervisor decided that I must also purchase and do the Happiness Rundown. I was already angry over having to repeat the ‘Grades’ so you can imagine the amount of protest I gave as I watched the money I had given to move up the Bridge being used for what I thought were needless actions.
They tried to convince me that I would be a much happier person after completing the Rundown but when I didn’t buy into that I was basically told I didn’t have a choice.
A few thousand dollars later the church declared that I was indeed a happy person and even gave me a fancy certificate saying so. If I were COBs case supervisor I would definitely have him do this Rundown a few times. Though today we are giving particular attention to number 5, I believe he’s having a bit of trouble applying most if not all of the entire list. He is not a happy person. Maybe Scientology can help him with that.
HAPPINESS
1. TAKE CARE OF YOURSELF.
2. BE TEMPERATE.
3. DON’T BE PROMISCUOUS.
4. LOVE AND HELP CHILDREN.
5. HONOR AND HELP YOUR PARENTS.
6. SET A GOOD EXAMPLE.
7. SEEK TO LIVE WITH THE TRUTH.
8. DO NOT MURDER.
9. DON’T DO ANYTHING ILLEGAL.
10. SUPPORT A GOVERNMENT DESIGNED AND RUN FOR ALL THE PEOPLE.
11. DO NOT HARM A PERSON OF GOOD WILL.
12. SAFEGUARD AND IMPROVE YOUR ENVIRONMENT.
13. DO NOT STEAL.
14. BE WORTHY OF TRUST.
15. FULFILL YOUR OBLIGATIONS.
16. BE INDUSTRIOUS.
17. BE COMPETENT.
18. RESPECT THE RELIGIOUS BELIEFS OF OTHERS.
19. TRY NOT TO DO THINGS TO OTHERS THAT YOU WOULD NOT LIKE THEM TO DO TO YOU.
20. TRY TO TREAT OTHERS AS YOU WOULD WANT THEM TO TREAT YOU.
21. FLOURISH AND PROSPER
Gimpy says
Funny, I don’t remember getting much in the way of happiness out of this course either. Literally the only auditing I feel I benefitted from was Self Analysis. They probably have a technical term for someone like me, they love to label people, precisely what they accuse psychiatry of.
gato rojo says
It does have some good stuff in it…these are just sensible logical things that you learned growing up or not. But scn figured out how to get thousands and thousands of dollars out of selling this auditing package.
Here is another really two-faced angle to this “tech” though: Try living in the sea org and applying these ideas to your life. IMPOSSIBLE! It’s such a crock that sea org staff cannot do any of those things as they endure their horribly tiny, controlled, slavery lives. Except #3—no problem not being promiscuous. Sex/family/children has been all but outlawed. Don’t let anyone see you in an embrace that looks the slightest bit sexual. You’ll get a room all right…shared with a bunch of other unfortunate RPFers.
Rick Mycroft says
A disciple of another sect once came to Drescher as he was eating his morning meal. “I would like to give you this personality test”, said the outsider, “because I want you to be happy.”
Drescher took the paper that was offered him and put it into the toaster — “I wish the toaster to be happy too”.
Ann B Watson says
Hi Rick Mycroft, Thank you for your post that made me laugh and think all at once.That personality test-my first Sea Org day I had to take the stupid test.Thought I was back in school! Whatever the purpose I started out as chief letter stuffer and promo folding machine operator.Which was pretty funny when the promo flew from the machine around the room.Another of Ann versus machine in the SO.Love,Ann.
gato rojo says
Hey RB, nice post. (Also must mention Mike’s great report–he can save all that nice word processing for future apostates!)
Receiving or applying ANY tech is not Dave’s forte, is it! I am hoping the story about him becoming violent his pc is in the book: “One day young Dave came home from course/internship (?) and was all upset that his pc wouldn’t act properly, and getting physically violent with the pc didn’t help at all.”
Kronomex says
Points 1 and 21 (minus “flourish”)are the only ones that cover Demento the Midget.
Old Surfer Dude says
“Demento the Midget.” Instant ‘Classic!’ Hurry, hurry, hurry! Step right up ladies and gentleman and see the oddest most and insane creature on the planet! He walks, he talks and still makes no sense. Yes, ladies and gentlemen, it’s Demento the Midget! You can throw peanuts at him if you’d like…
Interested Party says
Great post.
Mike have you ever entertained the very entertaining idea that DM might repeat history and go into hiding like LRH in the late 70s, once he loses a few court situations where he didn’t want to appear? He would have the advantage of the internet but who would he get to make his fabulous speeches at the monumental events?
Mike Rinder says
Yes, I have predicted this previously. First step may be the Moneywinds where he could still do events… Nothing else happens there so it could be his personal cruise ship for the other 51 weeks a year.
windhorse says
Seems exactly what he’ll do — he’ll have a whole crew to bow down to him.
And he LOVES go diving and blah blah blah
You nailed it!!
And plenty of $$ to keep going — for years
statpush says
The release of Ruthless will only reduce their dwindling membership, as more and more still-ins become aware of Ron Sr’s defection.
While we often poke fun at the “Kool-Aid” drinkers, they are not stupid. There will be talk. Many will secretly read this book. Many will slowly withdraw their support for the church. Event attendance will go down. Course rooms will be barren. Phone calls will not be returned. Targets will be missed. Many will be “too busy” to have much to do with Scn. Their “safe environment” will become more and more dangerous, as the MAAs smell blood in the waters. More will be declared. It will be a horrible time to be on staff. Pressure cooker.
All because the truth must NEVER be known.
Old Surfer Dude says
+1!. Nice post statpush. I totally agree.
I Yawnalot says
Remarkably well written article Mike. Your experience dealing with the cult is very polished, succinct & straight to the point these days. Their behavior is as predicable as the tide and I enjoy the way you put them in the spotlight even before they open their mouths.
I wish Ron Miscavige all the success in the world with his book and hope it gets the positive media coverage it deserves. Whatever his son does in response will be comical in the long run and this work by his father, of all people, will hopefully result in more than a handful of nails for the Scientology Organisation’s coffin. It’s an evil organisation that masquerades as a religion that requires a legion of well paid lawyers to ensure its continuing existence.
David Miscavige is a low life asshole & petty thief that stumbled into the big bucks but he’s so bad even his own family detest him. No wonder he endorses and encourages familial turmoil within the Cof$ – it’s where he personally lives and is obviously how he gets his jollies. If he pisses off his own family that much… geezers, that should leave no doubt in any observer about the practice of disconnection and other human rights violations within the influence of the Church of Scientology. Nothing David Miscavige does is of any value to anyone, not even himself. He’s a one man wrecking ball of human misery with lots of stolen money at his disposal.
Sara McCoy says
Wow…I’m getting confused as to whether it’s Donald Trump being discussed or David Miscavige!!!
Old Surfer Dude says
Two peas from the same pod……
gtsix says
Hey, that’s mean. i like peas.
Old Surfer Dude says
You’ll have to eat the Pod People then…
Jose Chung says
David Miscavige is the one with more money and pays no taxes.
Donald Trump only has 10 Billion and pays taxes.
David Miscavige barrows Tom Cruises Gulfstream executive jet.
Church members lay forthe fuel.
Donald Trump has his own Boeing “Trump Force One” and pays for the fuel himself.
Cindy says
Good points, Jose. Comparing David, let him die, Miscavige to Donald Trump is an insult to Donald.
statpush says
Not surprisingly, there is a growing support by still-in Scnists for the Trump.
WalkSoftly says
My thoughts exactly! I guess once someone has dealt with one sociopath it gets easier to spot one. Hopefully. People had better come to their senses.
Martha Stoutt’s ‘The Sociopath Next Door’ is a good book. Well written post Mike.
BeenThereDoneThat says
That was uncalled for in this forum. Not all of your opinions are shared by all members of this group.
Archie 10 says
Yes, I’m a former Scientologist, but a current supporter of Donald Trump. I also don’t like to see these snide condemnations of the man.
I like Mike’s site because of it’s exceptional insights into the world of Scientology. To see the comments made by other people about Mike’s articles I read through the threads. I don’t really like to see other people’s political or religious views here. Keep it to Scientology. Do you remember when we had long debates about the number of angels that could dance on the head of pins in competing schools of esoteric Buddhism?
It’s not my board, but as a faithful reader and occasional poster, I would prefer to see no religious or political proselytizing.
Mike Rinder says
I agree about the preference to limit political commentary. But it’s a bit hard to control it all especially in a crazy election year. Easiest solution is to ignore any comments that slip through. Ignoring is easy.
Ann B Watson says
Hi Mike, I wanted to say it took me so very long and with alot of misplaced emotion at times to be calm not agitated, if I got a post that really upset me.I am so much calmer now that I have my ignore button.And it did not cost me any $ at all! Thank you.xo Ann.
WalkSoftly says
I understand the desire not to have politics, etc.. brought into this forum. That said, the discussion of this very excellent post, Ron Miscavage’s new book & how David Miscavage might respond (taken from insights gained from ‘The Sociopath Next Door’) is important. It’s an important read for anyone. According to Martha Stoutt (and other experts) they estimate that sociopaths in our society is about 4% (or more!). That’s 1 in 25 people!! David Miscavage does and has done horrible things because he is in a situation that gives him unmitigated power. But there are other sociopaths in our midst that create havoc as well although on a smaller scale because they don’t have the wherewithal to create such large scale havoc. I would hazard a guess that most cult leaders are sociopaths. Many sociopaths seek power (but certainly not all) and not always on a large scale. Some are ‘big fish in a little pond’ tyrants. The trick is to spot a sociopath by understanding the ‘red flags’ so that we are not drawn into the vortex of such persons. I view Scientology as a destructive cult, but it’s not the only one. Some people get out of one such sociopathic cult/situation only to repeatedly be drawn into another because they don’t understand the ‘red flags’ and that is truly unfortunate.
Ann B Watson says
Hi Mike, I too want to thank Ron Sr for putting out his book.Like drips of water falling steadily on the rock of cos, that rock will crack open and split up forever.Thank you to all who go to the frontlines of this battle for the Truth about cos.I admire you all.Love,Ann.ps Hi Espiando!
PJ says
Great prediction Mike!
And Miscarriage will perhaps get inspired.
Chuck Beatty says
Likewise, in history, Ron Hubbard Jnr did partake in a book against his father L. Ron Hubbard the founder of Scientology. (Bent Corydon’s first edition book.)
There are so many parallels going on.
It’s like a second wave of controversy inevitably following Scientology’s 2nd leader as followed the Scientology original leader.
In this internet age, I wonder how Scientology will fare.
This site is a tremendous detailed view of Scientology, and thanks so much to all who provide history details.
LIBERO says
Beh, DM come qualsisiasi altro scientologist deve maneggiarsi la sua condizione PTS.
Friend says
Mike Rinder tortured and killed cats by sticking firecrackers in their asses .. beside of that .. it is for my knowingness not possible to do that .. you can imagine such things, but the cat would not go with it .. you would be harmed from her very ..
I saw David Miscavige only once at Saint Hill UK .. I found it very bad that he had 5 body gusrds with him .. I got 4 ethics checks for not meeting him personally .. and also 1 sec check in auditing ..
Funny .. I looked at him as a fearful person when he must be so much protected from others .. yeah, he must be very weak .. very weak .. I found it true, because who needs so much body guards ..
I hope his father will tell something about David’s weakness .. about his fears to be not as great as he wants to be ..
For the beginning .. as a child I tried also to kill a cat .. I have lost this game .. it was anyway a stupid game ..
Chuck Beatty says
PIs and high end body guard companies love Miscavige.
Scientology’s dupe’s money keeping the planet’s most big being safe! (PIs and body guards like the business.)
Cece says
Chuck, you like history so I’ll tell you this. One day in around 1998 Jack came home and told me that he had found a rifle behind the (4ft) retaining wall as one enters what then was the wood shop, CLO training and the PBC Planning offices. Of course he turned it in. So perhaps DM has good reason to surround himself with guards. I don’t recall if it was loaded. Anyone with as much transgressions towards others as this man will end similar to Ron and hopefully much earlier.
Chee Chalker says
Interesting… If COB is so beloved by his flock, shouldn’t St. Hill be the safest place in the world for him? Why all the bodyguards? Unless, of course, you saw him on the Ides of March.
Friend, why did you get the ethics checks for not meeting The Tiny One?
I understand why Cruise would need bodyguards….people actually want to meet him, but COB?
And why would COB need bodyguards? He has mad OT skills where he can stop time and give theta kicks.
hgc10 says
That Ides of March idea has a lot going for it. Miscavige doesn’t know when the Ides of March is (not even which month), and he’s too fucking crazy to just ask someone. So just to be safe, he’s sure to have bodyguards around him every day of the year.
Erik Vos says
Dear Ron.
Looks like this will be a big one.Just that it will be published is already picked up by about 140 publications(maybe more),including Rolling Stone,LA Times, Usa Today and the Daily Telegraph(UK).
Although they as the publisher are maybe biased St Martin’s press called it “riveting”
Many of us have lost children who were ordered to disconnect from their families.
Paradoxically your book will reconnect families .
Hadley says
I’d read it just to see what admittance is given by a Father working for a dictator that being his Son. It depends on the topics discussed and what does he want to tell a story about. How he portay’s his working relationship with his Son. DM reaction will be defensive . And whether Rons Miscavaige has prepared for what ever backflash that comes because of the publishing of the book.
threefeetback says
Dave,
Fuck you.
(to be published in full)
——————————————————————————————
Ron,Sr.,
For old time’s sake, when the Titanic goes down, I want to get a picture of you sitting at Dave’s desk in Building 50.
Old Surfer Dude says
With your feet up on the desk……
Jose Chung says
David Miscavige will do something really crazy
that will make “RUTHLESS” an International best seller
forever. I have advance copies ordered.
Old Surfer Dude says
Jose, can I get his book in electronic format from Amazon?
One Point Won says
Old Surfer Dude, last week I was able to pre-release-order it in Kindle version at a substantial discount.
ml, 1.1
Old Surfer Dude says
Thanks, One Point! I actually have an iPad with many apps. One of which is the Kindle app. So, I’ll certainly be ordering the book. Who knows what shit he may have put his father through while at Int. But now…Ron Strikes Back!
Valerie says
OSD it is also available for pre order from iBooks for your iPad. I have found that when given the choice between iBooks and kindle for iPad, it’s easier reading In iBooks. Yes, it is available for,preorder there and yes I’ve pre ordered
Old Surfer Dude says
Thanks for the heads up, Valerie!
Jose Chung says
Yes as kindle.$12.99 ( half price of hardback book)
It’s kind of Hobby of mine to collect the truth
about David Miscavige.
D.M.is super horrified of children that BT’s can jump off them and stick to him.
D.M. has Gold Bullion in Vaults.
D.M. is 5 foot 1 inch tall. Tom Cruise is 5 foot 7 inches Tall.
Espiando says
Mike, you really need to send this to some of the major mainstream media outlets who have big-time book review departments (NYT, Washington Post, etc.), and tell them that this is what to expect when the cult gets wind that a review is in the works. It’ll blow their minds how accurate you’ll be. Of course, any of us could write a Karingram about Ruthless at this point. We know the script by heart. But the MSM outlets really haven’t had the joy of being deluged by Provable Bullshit from the Masters Of Communication since Larry Wright. T h e accuracy will amaze them.
I’m setting the over/under for Tabloid Covers Abiut Ruthless The Week Of The Book’s Release at 2 1/2.
dankoon says
I’ll take the over.
Shelley says
I have no doubt the dead-agent program is all fired up and set to go. There is one glaring difference this time, though. This is DM’s own father speaking out. Nothing they can say or do will detract from that fact. I fervently hope and believe this will prove unprecedented in the damage this will do to both the church and DM – this is HUGE. To Ron Miscavige, I can only imagine how much soul-searching it took for you to decide to come out publicly against your own son. I, for one, would like to thank you for taking this brave step.
Aquamarinie says
I agree, Shelley.
And I have a theory about Ron Sr’s decision to tell all about his father. I think he was on the fence for a long time, and then word got to him that his son had given orders to the PIs not to assist him if he collapsed, I think that hearing that his son said, “If he dies, he dies”, put Ron Sr over the edge about his son. The straw that broke the camel’s back, etc.
And, by the way, I have no data. I don’t know Ron Sr or anyone involved and I didn’t read it. This comes purely from the dark recesses of Aquamarine’s mind 🙂
Ann B Watson says
Hi Aquamarine, I liked your post and I am sure your mind is full of amazing recesses light and dark,in fact all colors.xo Ann.
Willie AKA Good Old Boy says
Thank-you very much Ron for your courage and respect for others. It is never easy to see one’s child who you love very much go wrong. I hope your children will some day see the light and be close with you again.
Old Surfer Dude says
A feeling all of us here share, Ron.
LDW says
I hope Ron has a lot of success with his book. We’ll have several copies for our lending library and are eagerly looking forward to reading it ourselves.
Also hope Ron gets to do a lot of media visits. Bet Meghan Kelly would have him on. She’s got quite an audience.
The shit-storm that David will try and wreak on his dad won’t have too much effect since virtually no one is listening to Dave and his drivel anymore except to make jokes about how ridiculous his tantrums are.
Don’t know him too well, but from what I do know, Ron seems like an intelligent, articulate and stand up guy. He’s also a hell of a good musician.
Old Surfer Dude says
LDW, Meghan Kelly interviewed Mike! I’m sure she would LOVE to interview Ron Miscavige Senior!
Aquamarinie says
He’d be a great guest, OSD. She’d have a field day with him, in a good way. And maybe she’d let him play his trumpet,a ;little (saxophone?) Wow, what a show that that would be!
Mike Wynski says
This book is already well known. The other day a person who has never been in Scn (and never has mentioned the word to me before) and doesn’t know I had been in Scn, mentioned the impending publication of this book and wanted to read it.
Old Surfer Dude says
Mike, based on your post, I’d say the cult in deep, very deep doodoo.
Mike Wynski says
Yep OSD. I don’t think that they make hip waders tall enough to handle it this time.
Old Surfer Dude says
The hip waders would cover their eyes….
gato rojo says
Saw a short report on it on one of the entertainment rag-type shows Friday. Photo of the book, Tom Cruise’s religion, leader’s father’s tell-all….was a breath of fresh air!
SILVIA says
The grater part of people knows by now that scientology is a cult, litigious, dishonest and something that you should stay away from.
The PR is so, so, so bad that the other day that a couple of non scientology friends of mine saw a TV ad about LRH and Scn on TV immediately expressed ” scientology? it is a cult, it traps people and disrupts families”. I just chuckled.
The pattern you described, yes, it does match The Sociopath Next Door. But as Hitler, Al Capone and others of similar ilk, Dave will continue to scream, shout, hurt, blame those around him while his pretended empire continues to collapse.
He has by now the same paranoia LRH had and he continues to hide and will remain sofor a long, long time.
No matter what he does, the fact is that he has lost.
Alanzo says
A great project for a website or blog would be to catalog every press release that the Church of Scientology has ever issued to try to discredit a critic.
They have been issuing these kinds of 1950’s cold war propaganda style smear campaigns since, well, the 1950’s.
Select portions could be read out on camera by critics similar to Jimmy Kimmel’s “Mean Tweets” format.
I would do this but I need to shampoo my hair.
Alanzo
Old Surfer Dude says
Outstanding! That’s a fantastic idea! I hope it comes to fruition! Imagine how many laughs we’ll have…
statpush says
The cause of Scientology’s demise is Scientology itself. Adherence to 50s-style intelligence tactics makes them vulnerable to 2016 operations (which have become the norm). They are hopelessly locked in to Hubbard’s Cold War mindset.
Make sure you use the conditioner.
Old Surfer Dude says
Statpush, are you saying that, hip, hip, hooray is now outdated? What’s next? Actually going up the bridge?
james hollingsworth says
DM is so short that it’s now “knee, knee hooray”!
Old Surfer Dude says
james, do you think we’ll get down to “Toe, toe hooray?” What about Toto too?
james hollingsworth says
I don’t know about “Toe, toe” , but in prison it will be “On your knees, hooray!” Or maybe, “Bend over, I’ll drive.”
Brian says
And Alanzo, after cataloging all of the responses from the church, there should be an HCOB or other Hubbard writing that instructs this behavior. Showing causal relation.
Mike does this with this post. He shows the pat response before it happens, thus showing that the church’s response is not a real response but a well planned execution of Hubbard warfare.
Cataloging black PR and dead agent responses will show the sameness in all the responses. If all responses to criticism can be put into one binder, it would show the duplicity and well planned lying.
Think of it; every critic since Dianetics has always been wrong. There has never been a person with a valid grievance. This in itself is revelation of Hubbard’s approach to criticism. It is impossible that not one critic has had a valid grievance.
Show this pattern to the press and yank yet another feather out of the cap of GO/OSA Hubbard Fascist machine.
katylied says
While I have seen the cartoony attacks on the other people listed in the article, I havent really seen any against Jenna Miscavige Hill. Either I’ve missed her disparagement, or it hasn’t happened. I wonder if it’s because DM doesn’t want google bots to pick up all his dead agent assertions so closely linked to the name Miscavige.
john johnson says
I think Miscavige will now really tear into Karen De La Carriere for her role in helping his dad write his recollections. lol
Old Surfer Dude says
I believe that’s given as we’re dealing with world’s worst sociopath….
WalkSoftly says
Obviously David Miscavage is high on Hare’s checklist (psychopathy scale), but ‘the worst’? There are, unfortunately a great many people who are sociopaths/psychopaths and how much damage they inflict often depends upon what resources they have and how many people they affect. DM has resources, money, power, and people to control but what if DM was not the leader of a cult, but a country? Say, maybe North Korea? The level of abuse by cyclic sociopathy in that country is horrendous. It could and does happen elsewhere. How to recognize such persons and stop them before they reach that level of power and control is key.
Lawrence says
This is most likely true, because the Church of Scientology sent 3 people out to handle me. Not for writing a book about them but merely for being a part of online discussions about them and having a web site that explained why I was having online discussions about them. My web site was not intended to produce income but a book like this can potentially earn millions so the picture changes. 🙂
NOLAGirl says
“It is tough being a martyr who helps so many.”
Even on Sunday, your snark is on point Mike. 😀
alcoboy says
Good for you, Ron! I hope your book exposes this asshole for the fraud that he really is! I found this out at CCNashville when I almost bumped into the little dwarf and he looked at me like I had something wrong with me!
Leslie Bates says
“Why won’t that (EXPLETIVE) die?”
I Yawnalot says
If only looks could kill… then there’d be some justice served, nice and cold.