by Jeffrey Augustine
With over 1,500,000 views and 8,300+ subscribers in one year, Karen’s Surviving Scientology YouTube channel is a tremendous success in exposing the human rights abuses, lies, and greed of David Miscavige and the Church of Scientology.
In order to build on that success, Karen and I have just launched Surviving Scientology Radio so we can do podcasts. Podcasts allow for in depth interviews with people. We can also break news faster as it happens.
Karen and I are proud to have Mike Rinder as our first guest. Please listen in on your iPod or other mobile device, or even at home on your computer, as Mike and Jeff discuss Jillian Schlesinger, the financial forms the Church filed with the IRS, and the Church imploding in South Africa. Click here to go to the SURVIVING SCIENTOLOGY RADIO site and listen to the first podcast.
Congratulations are in order and throw in some Kudos too for the Radio Launches.!
Yeap! So happy to see Jeff and Mike FOLLOWING THE MONEY.
Great food for thought.
Indeed something CAN be done about it!
Curious listener says
Great interview. Can you, either Mike or Jefferey, fill in the details of OSAs response to Jillian Schlesinger? In the interview, you talk about OSAs “push back” as kind of a big deal, but I haven’t heard any description of what provoked this, and I’m sure I’m not alone in my curiosity. If there’s anything you can provide—without causing further problems to any of the principles, of course—please do so. Thanks.
Dedicated to Jillian Schlesinger, to the tune of the Beach Boy’s “Surfer Girl”, with a low bow to Mad Magazine.
Little Sci Ti, little one
Made my heart come all undone
I have watched you on L. Ron Hubbard Way
RFPing the day away.
If you jump the razor topped fence at Gold, we could ride away.
8 hours of sleep a night, regular meals, and internet goes a long way.
In my Woody I would take you everywhere you I go.
But A through E, and sec checking is a no-no.
So I say from me to you
would escaping make your dreams come true?
Would you love me my little Sci Ti Girl.
Send it to Brian Wilson.
I’m getting things set up so that I can view and listen to this. Can’t wait!
Jose Chung says
Indie sat T.V. 24 hour “Surviving Scientology” ,Channel 88008
I see this coming, imagine that.
The Oracle says
Honestly I would have to say, Mike is “the voice”. Frank Sinatra had nothing on you Mike. I don’t know if it is the accent or the tone or the reason that flows with the words. But I am hugely hyper active and when I hear your voice I just want to lay down and let it be.
Shocking. To think that the Church of Scientology’s uber expensive newly purchased Hollywood studio (bought three years ago and I believe still not operating) would be outdone by a simple, cost-effective YouTube channel and K+J’s podcast radio. Simply shocking.
Thanks, guys! 😀
Hallie Jane says
Another grotesque waste of parishioners hard earned money.
Really great interview with Mike even if he is:”a walking hate machine” according to COS (maybe in “Freedom” mag?). My concern here is that you are offering them the executive summary of a multi thousand dollar contract if they were to have the humility to ‘fess up and say …. hey Mr. Megabuck Wog Consultant we have a strategy to [ …..fill in the blank…..] but it’s not working. We are at our wits’ end to figure out why [DOUBLE DUH!!}. WTF? – Figure it out for us and many $figure are yours”,
Frankly at this stage I wish COS would just collapse on its own rotten core – good analogy the termite ridden structure.
This is great news! Another free voice is out! Excellent points made by Mike with all his experience in legal such matters.
There is no turning back. Scientology has always been Independent and free. No matter how many lawyers are employed, which is a great point made by Jeffrey. It’s obvious that that church has gone too far out and away from the basic principles of Scientology.
I would like to listen to positive things and interviews from Surviving Scientology Radio. I understand the need to uncover all the bad but I think there are so many auditors around doing things that it’s gonna be a big success to focus on them, too.
I would like to listen to Karen as a Class XII to say how she sees things now in the after-the-church era.
“It’s obvious that that church has gone too far out and away from the basic principles of Scientology.” ?
“ENEMY SP Order. Fair game. May be deprived of property or injured by
any means by any Scientologist without any discipline of the
Scientologist. May be tricked, sued or lied to or destroyed.”
Hallie Jane says
Fair game is not a basic principle ka. It’s just a policy. The purpose of real Scn IMO is to free beings from spiritual barriers. If a policy does not align with that, it should be ignored. There’s an auditing datum that “the solution to the problem is the problem itself”. Fair game is an excellent example of this. Senior are the concepts that beings are basically good and that our integrity is at the core of our strength. I’ve been in Scn 40 years and I have never fair gamed anyone or promoted it in any way. I never considered it ethical. But I have freed lots of beings.
Hahahahaha! Oh, man! I’d pay money to hear that! If only he had the balls to show up….. 🙂
FANTASTIC AND THANK YOU FOR LETTING US ALL KNOW. I WILL LISTEN TO THE FIRST INTERVIEW NOW.
Jeff, you are one smooth interviewer! And obviously a man who knows of what he speaks.
Jeff, Karen, Mike. Wow. Wow. Wow.
Parishioners and church staff need to understand that they have been lied to for years by Miscavige and that this fact has had huge impact on their lives.
The financial aspect discussed in this podcast, while it is but one area where Miscavige has twisted the truth to the detriment of others, is one where there has been little hard data.
And I believe that the data you discuss so openly in the program which Jillian so courageously divulged is very important in this long battle between Truth and Lies. People of good will, including Real Scientologists, will benefit from this. Truth is the only real enemy of liars.
Though many have worked to expose the facts, you three have been making the truth known in a big way for years now. I’m not a “worshiper” of other beings, but you three are actually already heroes by definition. You are friends of Truth. And many have your back.
And now with this inaugural podcast from Karen and Jeff, the gauntlet of Truth has been thrown down for all to see. So, please do keep ’em coming!
Definition of “throw down the gauntlet” from Wikipedia:
“to offer or send a challenge. The gauntlet or glove was thrown down by the knight challenging, and was taken up by the one who accepted the challenge; – hence the phrases.”
(No, Davy will never pick it up because even he knows that truth always slays lies.)
Hallie Jane says
“Truth is the only real enemy of liars”. Well said and spot on Espiritu!
Hallie Jane says
Great work Jeffrey and Karin and wonderful interview Mike. I’ve known a lot of people who had rough auditing, who just kept going in the church. They think someday, that they will again have an important spiritual experience, that they’ve tasted before. Scngst tend to take responsibility so they think, I’ll get a new auditor who understands me better, or, I have a nastier case than anyone else. They go on hoping. I know a 6 year solo nots vet and auditor, who now has a life threatening illness, and who can not afford auditing. I think for people who love the tech it is hard to make that jump into the unknown “structure” of the indie field. That said, I think the exposure of the financial irregularities, aka, money shenanegans will speak to almost everyone. Case problems are personal and complicated but MONEY?? No way. Now that the enormous wealth of the rcs is becoming more well known, it will really alert those who have given so dearly to the various causes. Hopefully they can stop feeding the monster and possibly, if they wish, enjoy some safe auditing without the rape and pillage.
Great first podcast!
Just had a cognition I wanted to share which is: whatever David Miscavige says conclude the opposite. Example: Keeping Scientology Working becomes Keeping Scientology from Working. You get the idea.
As they say over at the Underground Bunker, “Every day is opposite day in Scientology.”
Doug Parent says
Piercing the bubble of Unreality and providing clear insight and a measured accurate assessment of the real scene inside the para-military cult called the Church of Scientology. Karen and Jeff, you are doing just exemplary work and inviting the STILL REIGNING popular spokesman on the organization, Mike Rinder is a gift that just keeps on giving. WHAT A BLESSING you all are. Thank you.
Your interview with Jeffrey is just the sort of measured and informative material needed to penetrate Scientology’s shrinking bubble of unreality and disinformation. May ‘Surviving Scientology Radio’ prove a whole new threat to Shortarse Miscavige’s failing feudal fiefdom!
Dave’s going down dude!
Wendy Bowman says
Thank you Mike, Jeffrey and all involved behind the scenes for making this possible.
It is certain to become a highly demanded excellent platform for making the truth known, both vital and valuable. Well done to all of you.
Love and admiration from Wendy B
good luck Jeffrey and Karen on your new venture. we’ll be tuning in.
Wanted to repost a favorite quote of mine from The Dark Knight for those who missed it. This is for DM :”Do you have any idea who you’re stealing from? You and your friends are dead!”
Gus Cox says
They should send Him a media request 🙂
Great interview! Congratulations on the new radio program. I look forward to more.
That was a great interview. Can you get the runt in a tux on for an interview?
You mean Howdie Doodie Miscavige?
Then you’d have to invite Danny Sherman and his legal counsel or you’d have something like Tourette’s syndrome on the air.
Yes, yes, yes! Get the little blighter in to reply. That would be fantastic. I’m all ears, Captain.
Dave’s too busy building up his car collection. CSWP.
What sort of fair game attacks did they make against Karen and Jeff? I didn’t see that described, at least on the things I look at. I assume they attacks were feeble, missed the mark and backfired.
Like CIA’s drone program.
They caused a lot of “collateral damage” and just pissed more people off.
Of course back in the Magic Kingdom the whole op was rated as a “success”.
Game attacks? for one, they have sent me Dead Agenting emails, many for both of them plus on other people. Really, they, CofS are plain stupid, spinning their wheels and making more enemies.
Maintain friendly relations with the public has morphed Into wogs aren’t our friends until they agree with us.
You have more followers now than Scientology has.
That’s right Mike.
You should apply for 501Ciii status 🙂
He already has both Platinum & Meritorious Status.
(MaBű, November 29, 2013 at 8:46 pm: https://www.mikerindersblog.org/proof-of-expansion/#comment-26392 )
need to know says
WOW..you guys rock! This is a huge step. Not only will the Bobitt have to read what you post but he will have hear in your accents and voices that he knows so well. It will drive him bat shit crazy which will lead him to attack those closest to him. Get ready for the next wave of “Blown for Good”.
Old Surfer Dude says
Karen, Jeff & Mike, you folks hit out of the park! You 3 amigos have taken this to a whole new level. Davy is pissin’ in his pants. Bravo!
Great concept. Great first interview. I look forward to the next interviews.
Please let the South African blog know about this.
Mary Rathernotsay says
That was an awesome interview! I actually learned more from it than I expected to.
Thank you Mike and Jeffrey.
I look forward to many more podcasts to come.
Brilliant! Gives me hope.
Wow! This is great. Thank you Jeffrey, Karen and Mike!
This is awesome! Thanks to all of you for exposing the Co$ for what is really is. You are making a big difference.
They seek him here
They seek him there
That DM seeks him everywhere
Up in the heavens
And on podcast, see!
That damned elusive Mike, SP!
Thumbs up Mike 😉
Black Panther says
Fantastic – thanks to Jeff & Karen for setting this up – this is an incredible “next step” in upping the ethics gradient……. Great interview with Mike who as usual was extremely cogent with his responses. Kudos to all of you!
Great Mike, very informative. Must be frustrating as hell to Miscavige to be completely powerless to stop the leaks from within. It’s sucks in the extreme to be him, but you know what – he’s got it coming.
Yeah! Or he pulled it in, as they say! He Can´t Hide anymore. That´s -30 on the Tone Scale. Only one more step to go to TOTAL FAILURE!!!
“April 15, 2015: Mike Rinder Interview with your host Jeffrey Augustine”
It looks like the squirrel tech is so advanced that it’s better than GAT 4: it has time traveling. 🙂
Mary Rathernotsay says
Well MaBu, you’re a little ahead on the date. It’s not 2015 yet.
I guess you looked at the Podcast web site after they fixed it. (My quoting was a copy & paste).
Chris Shelton aka Galactic Patrol says
What??? Wow, cool! I’m listening now. This is exciting.
J. Swift says
Mike, thank you for being our first guest on Surviving Scientology Radio. Your insights are very valuable.
As an FYI to your audience, we had such a high demand on downloads of the podcast when you announced it that some listeners are experiencing problems. We are fixing this immediately by increasing bandwidth on our side. We apologize for the temporary difficultly and will have if fixed shortly.
For people who may not know what a podcast is allow me to explain: It is simply a radio broadcast that you can listen to online. That’s it. You can play it right away or save it for later as a file. Listen from your iPod or other mobile device at the gym, on a walk, on an airplane, etc.
Mike, this was an extremely well done interview. You are still the spokesman ! 🙂