New Era, which seems to have taken on a new role as sort of the “continental org” for Europe trying to sell scientology to new public, held a “Dissemination Webinar” and we were sent some screen shots from an attendee that provide some interesting insights.
The lineup was a “who’s who” of scientology FSM hucksters. Arte Maren, Rafferty Pendery, Michael Chan, Andrea D’Agostini, Pier Paderni.
Here is the “good news” (featuring not recently seen nor heard from Joy Villa) — with the typically vague “hundreds of thousands of people introduced to Dianetics” BS. The way they calculate these sort of stats is the same as has been done for decades. They set up a stand at a bookfair. They find out how many people attended the bookfair. That number is how many people were “introduced to Dianetics” at that bookfair, even though there may not have been a single visitor at the booth… If they set up on a street corner, they count how many people went through the intersection the day they had their stand there, and all of those count as “people introduced to Dianetics.”
Here’s another typical scientology fake stats technique.
No time frame, this could have been over 5 years…
And they count WTH booklets as “distributed” when they are purchased from New Era, even if they are still sitting in someone’s garage or a warehouse in Slovenia. Because they were “distributed” from New Era.
Here’s some more fakery.
Not a single specific — “top level meetings” is ANYTHING. If they managed to grab a bookstore owner from a small town in Lithuania and persuade him to sit down in their booth at the bookfair by offering free coffee and cookies, that counts as a “top level meeting.”
And just look at these categories?? TikTok and Top Publishers…
Their “bestseller list” are from Bulgaria, Slovakia and Lithuania. Nothing from Germany, France, Italy or even Denmark? Not a single country where they have an org?
Here is the “big secret” on how to disseminate.
Put ads on Facebook. Then put comments on FB.
Wowza, that is a hot tip.
A bit of smoke, plenty of mirrors, and no fire… it’s scientology internal propaganda 101…
The passing of my old friend Peter Cook. A wonderful, talented, kind and funny man.
My thoughts are with his forever “other half,” Carrie.
Howie Spinner says
There is only one piece of good news that I could ever conceive coming from this cult. That news would go along these lines, “The Cult of Scientology has decided to close its doors forever and will refund all the money they have wrongfully taken from unsuspecting victims. If you want to claw back any money that was wrongfully taken from you, you should send a registered letter to your senator or House of Representatives member and tell them the exact details – That is, exactly how much money was misappropriated from you and how much has yet to be returned.
I fear that you will be in for a nasty time trying to squeeze any money back from the Cult of Slamatology. I sure do hope that you find a way to reclaiming the money that was taken from you. Unfortunately, I fear that you may need the help of a lawyer or other government official to get the process started. But I honestly encourage you to get things going just as quickly as you can. The longer you wait, I fear the lower the chances are that you will be able to recover the total amount of money you have coming.
I wish you the best of luck in getting your money refunded and I also encourage you to keep a daily log of all events that you suffer on the way to getting all of your money refunded.
Good Luck to you and do try to find a liar who will work for you and get a lawyer to help you. I fear you will need a lawyer.
I also encourage you to try to open a dialog with other people here on this blog who has suffered similar kinds of financial losses that you did. Kind support from other people often provides you with a great deal of comfort.
Bottom Line? Go get them and never let them go!
Really Sorry about Peter Cook. He was one of the artist talented Sea Orgers, a Class 8, was a Flag auditor, more qualified to be a smarter leader of the movement had he been given more reigns. He was one of the people with better judgement who if they’d been in command positions, things would have been different. People like Peter who gave up their artist careers to be in Sea Org, man there were a lot of them. He was one of the Class 8 risen Class 9s. No light matter. He was a jazz bass player too.
Mimsey Borogrove says
Too bad about Peter – I liked him as well. Artie looks unchanged though sporting a beard. What ever happened to Mary, his wife – the last I heard she had joined up with AAC before it was taken down by the CofS
Mary appears on a number of YouTube yearly talks given at freezone conferences. She tells loads of stories, but that’s all I know.
Re Peter, he also was a Class 8 who became also Class 9, audited at Flag, I think he came into Sea Org to be a NOTs auditor at Flag, and did so. Later going into creative stuff in Marketing units.
Makes me wonder if the creative talented people, like Peter, when they hung out, if they ever wondered what the movement would have been like had they been given the reigns in the top decision making roles about major things?
Off Topic if you don’t mind, Mike:
This is an apology to Cindy.
Last week I responded to your comment concerning Johnny Lewis in a wholly inappropriate manner.
At the time I didn’t see it as inappropriate but when after a brief interchange between us you cut off the conversation i saw that I had been wrong – indeed I KNEW I was wrong. The thing was, although I knew it, I didn’t know why. I knew I should apologize to you, but I didn’t know why. So I just let it process for a while because I wanted to give a real apology and I couldn’t do that until I was clear on why I had been wrong. A few days ago, the answer popped into my mind.
I was wrong because I responded to your sharing about Johnny Lewis in a fact based manner.
Now, my facts were correct, but what you were sharing had nothing to do with the facts.
You were grieving.
You were mourning the loss of someone you had experienced as good, as kind and loving.
My coming at you hammer and tongs with facts about him as a response was wrong and cruel.
What I did was tantamount to standing up at a funeral while a eulogy was being given for the deceased and pointing out all the wrong or bad things the deceased had done in his life.
You were mourning the little boy and the young man you had known very well and loved; the boy who had loved you
At the time I did not perceive the simplicity, the purity of your viewpoint. I do now.
I’m sorry. And I’m sorry it took me this to tell you I’m sorry.
But you see, I had to understand and be clear about why I was wrong. i didn’t want to give you a phony apology. It took a while before the truth dawned on me.
So while it may not be acceptable at this point, be at least assured that it is real.
Dear Aquamarine, Thank you. This is beautiful and touching.
I almost didn’t see this. Somehow in my comings and goings on Mike’s site, I ran across this almost by accident. Imagine my surprise at finding this. Thank you for your sensitivity, empathy, and caring.
You’re welcome, Cindy, but with no false modesty and with all sincerity, I must insist that it is you who are to be thanked for the high degree of sensitivity, empathy and caring displayed out of what is undoubtedly an unselfish and forbearing nature.
Happy Valentines Day to you and everyone on the blog.
Howie Spinner says
There is one thing that I would really love to know. Here it is:
How many times would I need to spin around before you might consider being my Valentine?
Probably not that many, I’m afraid I would prove a woefully deficient immovable object to your powerful irresistible force. I’m a cheap date; one glass of wine pretty much does it for me. And then, experience has shown that I’ll believe practically anything a man says if he’s convincing enough. There wouldn’t be much of a challenge. Full disclosure: I’m also needy, possessive, demanding and materialistic. Once you are committed and I do mean that in every sense of the word our conversation would chiefly consist of reassurances on your part of your feelings for me and only me backed up by gifts of serious jewelry. receipt of my engagement ring by its due date is important – namely on, or by, but not later than 6 months from the date of our Valentine Commitment. For example, if it were today, the ring will be expected on August 16, 2023. Just letting you know.
Well, I think this covers all by way of full disclosure in response to your flirtatious suggestion. Should you find the above stipulations acceptable I shall be your Valentine subject to a credit check to determine your net worth. For this your signature permitting same must include your full name, DOB, address and SS#. Please advise and my attorney will contact you.
Howie Spinner says
Before I start completing the required paperwork, pls let me know, do you accept Etrans donations?
If so, are there any limits on the amount?
I’m planning to fly to Switzerland tomorrow so that I can consolidate some of my numbered accounts into a US Dollar account so that I could use Etrans.
Thank you for your prompt response!
Send no money now.
Credit must first be approved, upon which dox to verify income i.e,, recent bank statements, tax returns, photo ID of course and other such dox will be requested for review.
Credit and income verification will determine limits on funds.
And in answer to your question, and for future reference, no, Etrans is not accepted; cashier’s checks (not personals until such time as I have a serious diamond ring to pawn in case your checks bounce) or money orders only please.
So sorry for any inconvenience, but, what can I say? I’m old fashioned! Cash is vulgar and Etrans is just so…unromantic.
Thank you Aqua. I appreciate your kind words. And Happy Valentine’ Day to all.
Howie Spinner says
@Aqua. I can fully appreciate your aversion to Etrans and preferrence to old fashioned checks.
However, you should know that Etrans is a very successful method of sending and receiving funds over the Internet. I have used Etrans many times and have always found it 100% safe and reliable.
After all, it’s not like some crooked punk who is behind Etrans. It is supported by all the largest banks on the Internet and if you ever send any money which is not received properly, you can always cancel the transaction and get your money back Pronto!
I would trust Etrans with very large sums of money – perhaps evern amounts up to $100,000. I may not have $100,000. However, if I had that much moolah, I would trust ETrans to send it or to receive it to someone. All that person requires is a valid EMail address. I know that ETrans must seem dangerous the first time few times you try it. But if you just split the amount up into several pieces and then track each individual piece, I think you will find a great deal of peace of mind.
BTW? Is it Piece of mind? or Peace of mind? I could never find that out from Giggle.
Komodo Dragon says
The fact that someone felt it necessary to give a definition/ word clear of “word of mouth”… Only in the bubble!
Tory Christman says
Very true! Having been a member of $cientology for 30 years, year after year their “stats” were always UP, even though:
— more & more members vanished
— less & less people getting audited & trained
–costs more & more $$$$$
Always their “stats” were based on unusual countries where they did not even have “orgs” (but “all the police in Slobovia were trained in WTH”), etc.
False stats turns out to be the Foundation of Scientology.
Do ANY of these people think?
Dear Dr. Miscavige:
I am the Slovakian Energy Minister Dr. Miroslav Horvath.
I want to tell you that Dianetics is very popular here in Slovakia.
Each year, hundreds of thousands of copies of Dianetics are used to heat schools, factories, and churches.
Please do send us another 300,000 copies asap as winter is expected to last longer than expected this year.
Dr. Miroslav Horvath
NB: You are invited to come and stay here in Slovakia as a refugee if you cannot escape service of subpoena in the US. We have a job ready for you as a bellhop at a very fine luxury hotel.
Mike Rinder says
This is absolutely priceless…
Good news, he already has his bellhop uniform ready to go from the FSO Uniform Exchange I/C
Could you print an extra 100,000 of the books on much cheaper and thinner paper before shipping them next time. We are in need of more toilet paper and the better quality Dianetics tomes can be very awkward to use.
Same thing I use to do with all that promo crap they use to send me until I got off there mailing list
Chris Shugart says
Introduced to Dianetics? Whoopdee-dam-do. I was introduced to dog crap a couple of times last week at the park. But I wouldn’t brag about it. And I didn’t step in it.
And ultimately, the orgs are emptier than ever; and the missions are vanishing as their private owners get too old to keep it up, and can’t find anyone new to take over what are now obsolete financial burdens. Scientology is going the way of beanie caps with propellers, hippie tie-dye and hitchhiking.
Forgive me if this has been discussed before.
ALL the advertisements of what Dianetics and Scientology can do for you, I would like to point out (shame on me for doing so), that absolutely NO ONE I actually know that has been a Scientologist or Dianetisist for decades has drastically increased their stats across their dynamics. Perhaps added Mankind or something to them?
The successful people always were, or would have been. The staff and most parishioners are literally in the same state, or worse, very in debt. (Old) Scientologist are still getting divorces, being astranged from their families. They are dying from things they shouldn’t, cancer, and other stuff. NOTHING that is promised in the carrot is real.
What’s NOT promised is that you will be eternally regged, asked for IAS money, sec checked, told your auditing was not standard do over, and you will not unless your rich, have any money, but lots of debt.
Oh yeah, it’s your fault, it’s your responsibility that you did not meet the goal, get sick, pull in (what ever).
Why is it not turned Inward? 😕 Why if everything in my life is mine, why would not the individuals leading Scienotology be responsible for THEIR condition, the condition of their sphere of influence? There seems to be (sarcasm) no accountability at the top for the condition of Scientology except everyone under Mickywitz, oh and SPs, yes that’s it. It’s you guys, Scientology is not responsible you are.
NO ONE I know is operating better now than they were in 1990. The ones that are alive anyway.
Howie Spinner says
I will forgive you all right. All that stuff has been said before. But there is one thing I cannot forgive. When you spoke about people you know who were Dianetisists, I was reminded of my trip to my own Dentist last week. She is a mighty good Dentist and a very sweet lady. But she pulled out three of my teeth because they were bad and now I am left with a very oddly shaped smile.
When I smile, people think I am making faces at them. So, I want you to know that you need to be careful when paying homage to Dentists. They are no fun. It’s far far better to worship Aquamarine than any Dentists.
By the way, how much longer do you think we will be able to have this big fun mocking this idiot cult run by its imbecile leaders? Personally, I’m gonna predict this year – 2023 – is gonna sound the death knell for this Farkachteh cult.
The only other thing I can say is goodbye and good riddance. Crazy bunch of assholes!
My apologies to the Dentists, needed, nessesary, but no fun.
About your latest extractions, perhaps your look is now more devil may care to match your writing! Made me smile to play.
I believe it will continue even if leadership or the Organization is disbanded, at least for a few decades. Honestly, no one wants to really admit, or see it is a dead end. Just my take.
Get wax teeth, it won’t help but it will spark more conversation and less side glances. 😉
What happened with the everyone must attend event in Chicago this weekend?
I assume it was just like the “Wider Bridge” events- nothing much at all.