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Chicago Ideal Org Fail

June 14, 2022 By Mike Rinder 49 Comments

 

The “ideal org” strategy is so far off the rails it doesn’t even resemble the original crazy plan when Miscavige announced it in the early 2000’s.

He proclaimed that orgs required large enough buildings to be able to deliver “all the services”, including a Public Divisions space large enough to accommodate what I called his FART program (Fully Automated Robot TV) whereby staff would be replaced by videos to “explain scientology). I laid this out in some detail in a posting from 2015 entitled What Is The Ideal Org Program?

Originally, OT Committees were supposed to raise the funds to purchase and renovate the buildings so the orgs could move in. But over the years, as scientology has continued to shrink, another problem arose — not enough staff to man these mausoleums. When they were small and failing orgs located in a strip mall or on the second floor above a dry cleaners, the glaring emptiness (failure) was not so visible to the world. But as these “new churches” — in fact, no new churches at all, just new BUILDINGS — began come into existence, the emptiness was a much more obvious problem.

Three things were done.

  1. Sea Org members were sent to man many of these orgs.
  2. Massive musical chairs — sending staff from one or more orgs to temporarily man the new orgs for their opening
  3. Sea Org Missions recruited people from all over the world to join staff in whatever the next org to open was

Thus we come to the above.

The Sea Org is out recruiting people to try to man the Chicago org so it can open. Because Chicago org has a tiny congregation, there are not enough people to recruit for staff in the local area. So, they have to send them from elsewhere. I remember when Orlando was being opened and it was manned with Eastern Europeans! Because org staff are not provided with room and board like Sea Org members, these recruits have nowhere to live when they arrive. And no jobs. And despite the promises that this org is going to be “booming” and they will be well paid, that never happens either. Within a couple of months, most of the imports return to where ever they came from. Amazingly, Chicago org cannot even afford to buy coat hangers or an ironing board, so, at the behest of the Sea Org Mission, start begging for items to be donated.

You may have noticed my snark in the the Thursday Funnies about the guy from Los Angeles who joined staff in Chicago — this is why.


I bet Jacob Jolly doesn’t even last until the Grand Opening before he realizes everything he was promised was a lie. And then has to try to figure out how to get out of Chicago. The Aftermath Foundation has a helped a number of people just like Jacob after earlier “ideal” org openings.

Stepping back from the absurdity of this to take a broader view. This single posting says a LOT about the current state of scientology.

The ideal org program has been going for almost 20 years now. The org in the nation’s second largest city (the ONLY org for the entire city of Chicago, in fact the entire state of Illinois, and Iowa and Indiana and Wisconsin) cannot manage to get itself into a new building in all this time, though it is the highest priority for all scientology organizations who operate with the ONLY workable administrative technology selling the most valuable commodity on earth, and when they finally do get a building (10 years ago) they cannot get it renovated for years, and when they finally do that, they don’t have any staff, and no field of scientologists to recruit from. Yet, they are “Clearing Chicago.”

 

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Filed Under: Ideal Orgs, Idle Orgs Tagged With: Bob Spaulding, Chicago Ideal Org, Ideal Org program, Jacob Jolly, ot committee

Comments

  1. ScottyChicago says

    June 16, 2022 at 10:56 am

    Here’s hoping Chicago turns the coldest possible shoulder to the Ideal Org at its opening. Nearby clergy have expressed some concern but still seem to think Scientology is a religion and is entitled to its views and tax exemptions.

    Reply
  2. AnEx says

    June 15, 2022 at 9:05 am

    “The ideal org program has been going for almost 20 years now. ”

    Germany has three “IdealOrgs”, which a federal domestic intelligence agency (Office for the Protection of the Constitution, OPC) has been observing for 25 years.

    One of the OPC public reports states:
    “The Scientology Organization stereotypically continues claiming to be “the fastest growing religion in the 21st century”. Factually however, the SO, at least in Germany, has lost a third of their followers since the start of the observation by the OPC in 1997. ”

    Conclusion: The OPC’s program is more effective than the SO’s.

    Reply
  3. Aquamarine says

    June 15, 2022 at 3:05 am

    Oh, man, wouldn’t you know; I just threw out an ironing board! I don’t iron any more. A little hand steamer works just fine for my needs. So I gave away my iron and threw out the board. What a shame…Chicago Org would have been welcome to come and take it away. And as for hangers, jeez I’m constantly throwing out the wire ones I get from the dry cleaner because per policy a chez moi and to channel Fay Dunaway as Joan Crawford in “Mommie Dearest” – “No…wire…hangers…EVER!!!!!” From now on I’ll pack them up and send them COD to Captain Miscavige c/o Chicago Org. Honestly, its the least I can do for Planetary Clearing.

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    • Alcoboy says

      June 15, 2022 at 8:51 pm

      To: Aquamarine
      From: David Miscavige COB RTC
      Re: wire hangers

      LISTEN HERE, JOAN CRAWFORD WANNABE! WE HAVE NO USE FOR YOUR STUPID WIRE HANGERS OR ANYTHING ELSE OF YOURS FOR THAT MATTER! CHICAGO ORG WILL DO VERY WELL WITHOUT ANY CONTRIBUTION FROM YOU! SO WHY DON’T YOU TAKE YOUR STUPID WIRE HANGERS AND BEAT YOURSELF WITH THEM? PLANETARY CLEARING MY ASS!
      AND DON’T EVER REFER TO ME AS ‘CAPTAIN’ EVER AGAIN UNLESS YOU ACCOMPANY IT WITH A $450,000 DONATION TO THE IAS! THIS IS ONE TIME I’LL OVERLOOK YOU BEING AN SP!

      ML,
      Dave.

      To: David Miscavige COB RTC aka Slappy
      From: Alcoboy
      Re: above comm particle.

      So it’s all about the money with you, isn’t it?
      Here’s an idea; how about if Aquamarine comes to your place and beats YOU with a wire hanger? That would be too much fun to watch!
      No, wait. There is the possibility that you might enjoy it too much.
      Tell you what. I will come over and beat you with a wire hanger then stuff you in a trash can.
      How’s that?

      No love at all,
      Alcoboy.

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      • Aquamarine says

        June 15, 2022 at 10:45 pm

        Alco,
        Our Favorite Dwarf gets it wrong: I’m decidedly a Joan Crawford NOTwannabee but that said I am a huge Faye Dunaway fan and I thought she did a pretty good job portraying my least favorite old-time actress in that film. I particularly got a kick out of Dunaway as an aging Joan sitting in on the Pepsi board meetings after her husband Al Steele died…”Don’t f*ck with me, fellas!” Hilarious! I love how she was so beautiful and yet so NOT vain. She was never afraid to be ugly, character-wise, if she had to be, or unappealingly vulnerable, or petty or mean or whatever cringe-worthy, raw emotion was called for. She didn’t care how hateful or unattractive or ridiculous or pathetic it made her seem, she would just bite right into it. Anyway, even if Miscavige would enjoy it (and I have my suspicions about what he actually likes in the sack – have you ever seen Lou’s adams apple? She is one spooky looking chick, IMO. I could see her as a dominatrix or whatever these types with black boots and a whip are called nowadays. But I’d rather beat Miscavige up with words, not with wire hangers. Physical violence is not my style; words are the best weapons, especially since I have you to protect me ๐Ÿ™‚

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  4. Jens TINGLEFF says

    June 15, 2022 at 12:59 am

    So, the non-existent “Sea Org” tentacle of the criminal organisation known as the “church” of $cientology is shipping victims around from state to state to do menial work for less than pennies.

    I just hope that nothing untowards happens to any of the minors in the Damnation Navy. Such as what happened to Jane Doe who sued in Florida. For the Co$ to traffic kids around to do menial labour is one thing. For kids to be at risk from predators is a very different thing. So, don’t do that!

    https://tonyortega.org/2020/04/17/new-amended-complaint-packs-a-wallop-in-miami-scientology-child-sex-assault-lawsuit/

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  5. PeaceMaker says

    June 14, 2022 at 6:27 pm

    This is reminiscent of what Orlando was trying to do before their opening, casting about for resources to put up staff recruited from out of the area. I don’t remember how long it went on for, though I do recall that the opening got put off at the last minute and only finally happened a couple of weeks late.

    Chicago’s building was reportedly finished a year or two ago, so they’re way behind the ball in having an “opening” – at a minimum, they should have been ready to go as soon as the weather was nice enough for outdoors events. Who knows what and how long it will take for them to get ready now, though presumably they’re desperate to try to finally have an event before the weather turns cold again.

    And it’s indeed hardly a good omen for staff that they don’t get put up in proper accommodations to begin with, not to mention maybe even getting a moving allowance, which is what any well-run organization that knew how to take care of its people would do.

    Reply
  6. Cindy says

    June 14, 2022 at 6:24 pm

    when Vegas went Ideal, the few whales they had there were promised their name engraved on some of the bricks on the outside of the building to show off that the contributed a lot. My friend’s name was to be one of them. They never kept that promise. Instead they should have engraved the Aftermath Fdn number there.

    Reply
    • Alcoboy says

      June 15, 2022 at 8:56 pm

      That’s sad. I mean, the whales who ponied up big bucks for Nashville Org got their own parking spot. And if you weren’t a big contributor you had better not park there.

      Reply
      • Cindy says

        June 15, 2022 at 10:39 pm

        And the irony of this is that they have a whole empty parking lot from which to chose a place to park. No reserved parking was necessary when it’s empty.

        Reply
        • Alcoboy says

          June 16, 2022 at 10:04 pm

          ๐Ÿ˜‚๐Ÿ˜‚๐Ÿ˜‚๐Ÿ˜‚๐Ÿ˜‚๐Ÿ˜‚๐Ÿ˜‚๐Ÿ˜‚๐Ÿ˜‚๐Ÿ˜‚!

          Reply
  7. Anonymous says

    June 14, 2022 at 5:28 pm

    EIGHT dressers? How many people are they planning on cramming in there?

    Reply
    • Aquamarine says

      June 15, 2022 at 3:08 am

      Eight dressers for eight dynamics.

      Reply
      • Alcoboy says

        June 15, 2022 at 8:57 pm

        But you have to have multiple dressers for the third dynamic because that dynamic is made up of many third dynamics.

        Reply
        • Aquamarine says

          June 15, 2022 at 9:59 pm

          Right! And if these poor pit-stopping staff get dumped 8 to a room well beggars can’t be choosers. Gosh, I feel sorry for them. I really do.

          Reply
          • Alcoboy says

            June 15, 2022 at 10:13 pm

            Me too.

            Reply
  8. Mat Pesch says

    June 14, 2022 at 3:58 pm

    Once the recruit pools of Russia and Hungary got muddied up in the 1990s the Sea Org really struggled to get recruits. The Sea Org has not grown in numbers in the last 30 years. I love hearing that the Sea Org is getting torn apart and further weakened by the effort to man the empty “idle orgs” so that Miscavige can cut ribbons and lie about 54X expansion (not just 5.4X) when there is only contraction. 54X expansion!? Dude put down the scotch. The lies and false reality is only speeding up Scientology’s downfall. What is next? The same 100 Flag staff run ahead of Miscavige to the next division and change uniforms so he can pretend the org is growing? It wouldn’t surprise me.

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  9. Todd Cray says

    June 14, 2022 at 2:50 pm

    With their superpowers they can’t postulate a few low-cost items? That does not bode well for the poor souls arriving in Chicago! Nor does the fact that the cult is apparently trying to shoehorn 8 of them into a single apartment. Nor does the fact that despite all their admin tech and PR superpowers, it didn’t occur to them what an embarrassment this ad truly is!

    Don’t hold your breath when the “new” org has to start postulating the first round of paychecks.

    Reply
    • Alcoboy says

      June 15, 2022 at 9:00 pm

      Yes, it looks like little Davey’s Ideal Org program is running out of steam and a few other things.
      Next phase: Start shutting down orgs, sell off the properties and watch the cash start flowing in.

      Reply
  10. safetyguy says

    June 14, 2022 at 12:38 pm

    Imagine, the most ethical, most intelligent, the bestest people on earth can not get enough people to join now to staff its “churches” and I use that term loosely.

    Is that good thing? I think so. For every person out there that does not join this mess that is another one that does not mess their own life up for ever.

    But that is just me,

    Reply
    • Mark Kamran says

      June 14, 2022 at 3:44 pm

      It’s a Final count down …..Age of Paranoia followed by Age of Extinction,2025.

      It’s not me, am just a messenger, it’s written on the wall.

      Reply
    • Cindy says

      June 14, 2022 at 5:57 pm

      It reminds me of the old shell game. they just move SO staff from one opening up Ideal Org to the next to open that one, and the minute the new org is opened, the SO eave and abandon that org to go o the next Ideal opening and the new Ideal Org slumps and fails quickly.

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  11. Alcoboy says

    June 14, 2022 at 12:19 pm

    Okay, my story. I was recruited for Nashville Org in April 2009. At that time the org was in a rented house on 16th Street and not many public. Two members of the Sea Org took me over to the new building and, while they were having about how the new building would cause more people to come in to Scientology, I had my doubts from the outset. As my staff contract progressed promises failed to materialize. Finally in November of 2011 I just gave it all up

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    • pluvo says

      June 14, 2022 at 7:48 pm

      Alcoboy, how long were you already in Scn when you got recruited for staff in Nashville Org?

      And didn’t you search on the Internet about Scn before that?

      Reply
      • Alcoboy says

        June 14, 2022 at 10:32 pm

        I had first encountered Scientology when I read DMSMH in 2006. I first went to Greensboro, NC to be on staff at their now defunct city office. I accompanied two Sea Org from there to Nashville where I signed my staff contract. Unfortunately I didn’t have access to the Internet at that time so I went in blind. This is why I am indebted to Mike Rinder for setting up this blog and allowing me to see the truth. I chalk it up to a learning experience.

        Reply
        • pluvo says

          June 15, 2022 at 1:59 pm

          Thanks for your explanation! You are lucky to have made it out in a relatively short time.

          Reply
          • Alcoboy says

            June 15, 2022 at 9:01 pm

            I caught on quickly.

            Reply
  12. PickAnotherID says

    June 14, 2022 at 11:56 am

    Meanwhile Miscavige’s IAS slush fund is sitting on a pile of tax exempt money that benefits no one.

    Reply
    • Alcoboy says

      June 15, 2022 at 9:01 pm

      Except him, of course.

      Reply
  13. Dotey OT says

    June 14, 2022 at 11:51 am

    50 Hangers.

    They are clearing the planet 50 hangers at a time.

    I cannot think of a better use of Mr. Woods time than appealing to public for hangers.

    They are priming the pump for bigger donations. Things must be tough.

    In Atlanta, the several hundred “staff” that were there for the new ideal org in April 2016 were mostly gone by 2018. You can now bowl in the building and fail to hit anyone.

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    • Doug Sprinkle says

      June 14, 2022 at 2:48 pm

      I used to get mail from Atlanta until about a year ago, they would not give up. They would even call my number occasionally, it would usually be someone speaking poor English with an accent. I have wondered if me using my real name on here is the reason I quit getting mail from them

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      • Dotey OT / Paul Ronk says

        June 14, 2022 at 5:07 pm

        Well, I was on staff back at the grand opening in ATL and a little after, as I came to my senses in that year. There was a staff member in DIV 6 named Susie Sprinkle Katz. I probably called you back then, as I called people. That’s what we did in DIV 2. Actually I am sure that I did. I have recognized your name, I won’t say anything else.

        I must not have been effective in your recovery over the phone, LOL!

        Small world. The air is much nicer being out!

        But I didn’t call with poor English, I hope!! Lol.

        I don’t get mail, I think because my real name is on the Big List run by Trevanon. My live in partner still gets a bunch, well at least by regular standards. But if you wanted to measure the health of scn by outflow, you would say uh-oh!!!

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        • Doug Sprinkle says

          June 15, 2022 at 11:16 am

          Wow it is a small world. So do you know if they eventually took me off their list of people to call? When I would get mail from them it always had my last name as Springer or something like that. I once sent them a sarcastic note back saying considering they have the answer to everything in the universe it is disappointing they can’t even get my last name right. I got a reply back from someone saying that my response was harsh.

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          • Paul Ronk says

            June 15, 2022 at 11:37 am

            LOL, that is awesome! And someone there tried to write a letter back to you with great reality and said you were harsh! Lol.

            I don’t remember that they dead filed you or labelled you entheta. I was only there into late 2016.

            It must be a pretty sad state there now, only truly thought-controlled people are there.

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            • Doug Sprinkle says

              June 15, 2022 at 2:49 pm

              I remember one person calling who was obviously from out of the country. I was trying to convince him that Scientology really wasn’t expanding like he had been told. I asked him several times how many people are in the course room right now at this moment, he would just reply that he didn’t know.
              Then I asked him if he really believed there were millions of scientologists and his response was he thought they were more than that.

              After we got off the phone he texted me and wrote “best time for Scientology is right now, the expansion is unveliebable”. Pretty sure that’s exactly how he spelled it.

              I’m sure this person went well and I wish him the best.

              Did they make a big effort to recover you?

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              • Paul Ronk says

                June 15, 2022 at 9:12 pm

                I almost self recruited, sadly. I was on staff in the 90’s and 00’s, and then I went back. I was upset about the weirdness of the ideal org evolution but I went back. OT’s were dying all around me and I went back. This website was one of the first I visited, and just before I search “True number of scientologists” and what I read I knew was true.

            • Doug Sprinkle says

              June 15, 2022 at 10:24 pm

              That’s very interesting I was in Atlanta the only time I was ever there in 1990, I took one of the TR courses that lasted three or four days.

              I recall Skip Yarian was the executive director. I recall being chastised by him one night for talking in the course room, a few minutes later he gave a very eerie cult-like speech about how we were the only group that could save the planet in an attempt to get people to do the key to life course. I saw his name a few years ago one of the ex Scientology groups. I also dealt with a register named Doug who could sell snow to an Eskimo. There was another register named Paul who was pretty introverted compared to Doug. Did you know any of these people?

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              • Paul Ronk says

                June 16, 2022 at 6:39 am

                I knew of Skip, just never met him. Maybe the reg was Dan Austin, and the other reg was Paul Stein. Dan Austin drowned in CW while he was waiting for his trial on pedophilia. Paul Stein is now living in CW and is reg’ing for the ias.

  14. Mary Kahn says

    June 14, 2022 at 10:49 am

    A few months before I walked out (but was done) for the last time (2013), I was visiting one of my favorite friends who was Chicago Org public. She was complaining about the Chicago Ideal Org campaign. She told me how few public were left, how stupid the location was for the new org (long commute for most of the public who came from the suburbs), how few OT Committee members showed up for the events to raise money and even she was sick of it. I was so DONE and disaffected at the time but I didn’t say a word and just listened.

    Things have only gotten worse for Chicago since then. Maybe one day I will be able see and hug and talk to this very special friend of mine again.

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  15. Joe Pendleton says

    June 14, 2022 at 9:53 am

    Obviously they are not applying the correct conditions formulas or doing their Admin Scales. What they NEED right now is for Arte Maren to come and personally deliver his lecture series to them. Maybe Drew Johnston too and that whippersnapper Rafferty fellow.

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    • Ms. B. Haven says

      June 14, 2022 at 10:59 am

      Good suggestion Joe. Maybe these scientology super stars could also cough up enough change to buy a broom and dust pan as requested to do their part to get the show on the road.

      The request for items to donate is beyond pathetic. This stuff could easily be had by heading down to the local Goodwill/St. Vinnie’s,/Salvation Army thrift store. These people are totally clueless and not easily embarrassed by that fact.

      Reply
  16. otherles says

    June 14, 2022 at 9:14 am

    When you question authority you can’t make any exceptions. You may not like what you find.

    Reply
  17. Jerry In Sarasota says

    June 14, 2022 at 8:59 am

    We should each send them a dozen clothes hangers with an Aftermath Foundation card attached.

    Reply
    • Jill says

      June 14, 2022 at 1:23 pm

      too funny. LOL

      Reply
    • ExScnStaff says

      June 14, 2022 at 1:45 pm

      Cards are removable. Perhaps engraving “there is a way out” with the Aftermath number would be more effective.

      Reply
      • Aquamarine says

        June 15, 2022 at 3:21 am

        “Another opening, another show”. I’m reminded of that song from “Kiss Me Kate”…”We open in Venice, we next play Verona…” Someone needs to do a parody of this song with lyrics pertaining to the opening of Ideal Morgues – you know, with the Dwarf and his Sea Ogre Chorus singing and dancing about going from town to town, opening soon to be empty orgs, then moving on to next org which will soon be empty, etc. etc. The Dwarf cutting ribbons, Sea Org, Class V staff and public bussed in from all over the country and the world. The Ideal Morgue Program. Its excellent material for a parody.
        Maybe I’ll do it. I’m sure Cole Porter wouldn’t mind.

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        • Alcoboy says

          June 15, 2022 at 9:04 pm

          Don’t know if Cole Porter is still alive but I imagine he would laugh his ass off!,

          Reply
          • Aquamarine says

            June 15, 2022 at 9:55 pm

            No he’s gone alright but I agree that he’s appreciate that his lyrics were parodied for a worthy cause ๐Ÿ™‚

            Reply
            • Alcoboy says

              June 15, 2022 at 10:14 pm

              Like the Aftermath Foundation!
              Yeah!

              Reply

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