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Give Ireland Back to the Irish

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Somehow, the ONLY people who seem to be in the Dublin “ideal org” are from other countries.

Now I will freely admit that I love to visit Ireland. It is truly a magical country and the people are wonderful.

But why did Miscavige need to plonk an ideal down there when all there has ever been in Ireland is a bankrupt mission?

And as the months go by, it is proving by its OWN promotion that it cannot get the Irish to come near its 10 million dollar vanity project. It seems the only people participating in services there are those who have been pilfered from other “ideal” orgs around the globe. Maybe their prices are good? Maybe people just want to visit Dublin? But far more people visit London, Madrid, Rome, New York  and even Las Vegas — so how come no “scienotourists” are moving up the Bridge in those places?

It’s a mystery.

This Mission of Kosice is no doubt considered to be a “feeder” mission for the “ideal” org in Budapest which is just 100 miles away. So why are their people going to Dublin?

And here is another one — this person is from JAPAN? You know there is an “ideal” org in Tokyo right?

Further proof scientology is cannibalizing itself.it used to be that the staff were shuffled from one ideal org to the next. Now it’s public too…

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  2. I lived near Dublin in a town called Dalkey for almost a year. It’s a wonderful country and I can tell you the Irish ain’t stupid to fall for such an obvious money-scamming cult. They won’t be in no Idle Morgue kissing no LRH Bullsh*t Stone.

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  4. Yes, it appears the main goal of going clear, is so you can help others go clear…..keep the money rolling in.

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  5. In my opinion it’s no longer about “clearing the planet”. The top priority is getting rid of money to comply with tax exempt status. I think we are going to see more bizarre and outrageous spending that doesn’t make sense to anyone.

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    • dariddle, you just solved the riddle. Yes, it is not about clearing the planet. It is about spending the money to comply with tax exempt status. Further, if you open the Idle Morgues in far away places from where the majority of Scns live, they won’t be there to first hand see that it is an empty facade. All they’ll see are the smiling imported faces on ribbon cutting day. And they’ll just dub in (imagine) that it is full to the brim with eager public and staff instead of the staff and public shell game that it is. Thanks for this important article, Mike.

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  6. Sounds like an outer Org trainee, she housed there and completed up to Class IV. This lady also compares Dublin with Flag, so obviously she has been there.

    Independently of that, the point of shuffling public denies, in this case, stats an income to Flag. Is like a vicious circle.

    On the other hand, having delivered her training Dublin stats went up the roof and this could be used on Miscavige next event to ‘prove’ his leadership is unique…or whatever.

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  7. Racking up the failures and negative stats, MR. David Miscavige? It can’t be you, so you MUST be surrounded by SPs.

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  8. “As the months go by it is proving by it OWN promotion that it cannot get the Irish to come near its 10 million dollar vanity project.”

    LOL!

    Poor Demented Midget.

    Ireland doesn’t seem to be too impressed with His expensive new “cathedral”. .

    Poor Cee Oh Bee. So much for “Build It And They Will Come” as regards THIS country.

    Proper respect is not being shown! These ungrateful wog bastards are not kissing His Ecclesiastical ass!

    Unfortunately for DM, the Irish already know what to kiss when they’re in the mood for some blarney.

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    • Ballivor Says NO! Ireland has strongly protested against the infiltration of this insidious cult and their quack front groups, like the scientifically disproved NarCONon.

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  9. I’ve never been to Ireland but they certainly went up a notch in my book as a society with a moral backbone. Rejecting Scientology… splurge on it. Wonder if the leprechauns had anything to do with it? Betcha they did!

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  10. The interesting flaw in this strategy of shuffling public to other orgs to balance out the dismal stats is this: every dollar spent on air fare, food and accommodations for someone to do services away from home is one less dollar going to Miscavige and the reserves.

    This actually suggests that the point of Scientology is complete control over members. Making money is important but being able to push people around is really the most important thing.

    That’s why I have argued in many occasions that Miscavige would be fine with 37 members as long as he has 3,000 staff to abuse.

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    • Another flaw in Miscavige ‘ s idea to open an org here in Ireland is, in the last census here back in 2016 there were only 87 people who identified as being a scientologist. Now there could be less because on that night everyone in the house/apartment irrespective of living in the country or not, has to be included in that census. So it would be very easy for any of the few scientologist that actually live here could have invited other members over and included them in the census.
      On a side note there are 3 brothers who are scientologist living in Dublin that are being protected by Scientology for raping their handicap sister…

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  11. Off Topic, sorta: Just ran across a screen shot of the Sept. 17 issue of People magazine. The cover photo is of a woman named Michelle LeClair with the HUGE headline, “MY ESCAPE FROM SCIENTOLOGY.”

    In supermarket checkout aisles everywhere!

    Freakin’ awesome.

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  12. It’s like every single part is a lie.

    They don’t need an org there – there is no demand.

    Now that they ARE there, they are not attracting new clients , – they are operating from programs written specifically to go steal any person available from any location and get them to do services for the exact purpose of making it appear as if the org is needed and is flourishing by its own devices…

    and of course, there’s no such thing as a clear!

    The whole purpose is to trick people. And those who know will have it all justified as being the greatest good.

    …….
    it’s nice to feel more and more separated and apart from all of this …

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  13. Those two accounts, particularly the first one, look to me as if they may actually be from staff, who presumably would have from other countries to open the org, now getting training – which they may have time for in that org, if they have few public to serve.

    I’m starting to wonder if Miscavige didn’t open the org, in part because the impending failure of the Dublin mission meant that Scientology was about to be left without any presence in the country. That would amount to overkill, but then again things like that are being done these days. There may have been other strategic or financial reasons as well, as has been discussed, but I wonder if there isn’t some stupidly simple impetus like that behind the Firhouse org.

    On a related not, it would be interesting to figure out how many countries less important to international management, once had a mission or a claimed presence, but now have none at all.

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  15. I’m Irish and I’m from Dublin and I can tell you why no one is taking scientology up on their “offer’s” of free events.
    We don’t trust. We had one of the biggest scandals here in Ireland with the Catholic Church, apart from priests molesting children we also had Christian brothers schools for boys where the Brothers would use whatever they could lay their hands on to beat the children they deemed were being “bold” and if they couldn’t find anything quick enough they would slap/punch those children. The girls were taught by nuns who were just as viscous as the Brothers, I once had the led end of a pencil stuck into my arm so hard the lead broke off in my arm and I needed a doctor to take it out.
    Then there is the Mardalene laundries, not only the treatment of the girls who were sent there because they were pregnant out of marriage but now it has come to light that a lot of those babies were taken from their mothers and illegally adopted to couples outside of Ireland.
    We have no reason to trust the religion we were brought up with and having a “religion” that offers free stuff for no reason makes our suspicion rise. There is another thing Scientology never took into account about Ireland, it’s not classed as a church it’s classed as a business because it hasn’t and won’t get either religious or charity status here in Ireland.

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  16. I’m thinking all these “Ideal Orgs” are some kind of facade for moving money around, and making it harder to track when everything come tumbling down.

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  19. When Davy’s eyes are smiling
    Sure, ’tis like a plague in Spring
    In the lilt of Davy’s laughter
    You can feel the pain he brings
    When Davy’s heart is happy
    All the world gets dark and gray
    And when Davy’s eyes are smiling
    Sure, he’ll steal your soul away

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