A recent article in US Weekly quotes Jenna Elfman about “the controversy” around scientology.
She is a shining example of how a good scientologist acts and speaks. Foolishly.
While scientologists proclaim they have “the tech” to protect them from suppressive influences and they learn to “confront and shatter” this sort of thing, in fact, they avoid “suppression” at any cost. And by “suppression” they mean anything that is negative or even questioning about scientology. When they are confronted by such things, they run from it. Close their eyes. Hold their hands of their ears and hum to themselves to avoid hearing anything.
Scientologists CANNOT confront “suppression.” They cannot even confront “Suppressives.” If I walk by a scientology organization, they close their doors and keep their people inside until the danger has passed. If I walk into a movie theater and there are scientologists there, they leave (that HAS happened). If I am on a plane and 3 people from the Office of Special Affairs are in line to board the same plane and see me, they do not board (that HAS happened).
Scientologists are terribly afraid of suppressives and suppression. They will NOT confront “suppression” head on under any circumstances.
Hubbard painted everyone that didn’t agree with his views as “enemies”. The psychs. Medical profession. Government agents. The media. The list is long.
Scientologists are taught not to listen to anything “negative.” Not to read the press (they are enemies of scientology and the enemy of the people — “Merchants of Chaos” is how Hubbard termed them). They know that anything negative is an “enemy line” (which is anything that doesn’t go along with the “party line” of scientology) and the consequences of buying into “enemy lines” is a visit to the thics officer and the purchase of more sec checking and/or book packages…
They live in a bubble world where only news fed to them by scientology is to be believed. People like Jenna Elfman are all too happy to simply accept the bs they are fed (scientology is expanding and is doing all sorts of wonderful things helping billions of people every year) despite the evidence before their very eyes. There are none so blind as they who chose not to look.
So, she proudly spouts off an idiotically tone-deaf statement: “The controversy is boring.”
Boring?
Of course, we know why it is “boring” — because this is the “tone level” of 2.5 on Hubbard’s Tone Scale. And every scientologist knows that to “control” someone you operate half a tone above them — in this case 2.0 is “Antagonism.”
So, those who self-proclaim themselves great humanitarians are entirely oblivious or just don’t care about the human rights abuses of their own organization. They either pretend it is all lies, or know that it is not lies but deflect any discussion of it with “I don’t care” or “it’s boring to talk about” or “I know what it has done for me” (and everyone else be damned).
Often they cite some personal “success” to explain how wonderful things are and as a sort of “dissemination” pitch. Cruise and Travolta used to do this when they actually spoke about scientology. Elisabeth Moss too.
Jenna Elfman’s pitch was how scientology has has helped her “stay grounded” (she doesn’t seem altogether grounded to me) and “Well, I’ve been a Scientologist for 28 years and that’s a huge part of what helps keep our [with husband of 25 years Bodhi Elfman] communication going in our relationship. we’ve never cheated on each other, we’ve never broken up. We hang in there.” Jeez, how come that hasn’t worked for Tom Cruise? One or the other of you is either not applying the tech or lying.
And then she pulled out another old chestnut from the standard scientology PR responses: “I think that anything that works tends to get attacked.” This is like Hubbard’s “we know we are succeeding because the squirrels are screaming” — in this case the proof that we do nothing wrong is that we are new…
What you NEVER see is a scientologist addressing forced disconnection, or people being regged into bankruptcy, or cover up of crimes, or physical assaults by Daviud Miscavige, or the disappearance of Shelly Miscavige and the top echelon of scientology management personnel.
This is why I constantly refer to the “scientology bubble” — these people live in a cocoon of lies they all agree upon. The outside “wog” world is ignorant, uninformed and bigoted against them.
It’s scary to watch otherwise intelligent and talented people so blinded to the obvious.
Perhaps Scientology makes one “tone” deaf? Jokes aside, it’s sad to see anyone intentionally “suppress” the truth.
I have observed that Hubbard and those following him have adopted techniques like that of accusing your opponent or “enemy” of the thing(s) in which they are actually guilty of.
The weird thing about this group is so many powerful justifications are built directly into you. Your hardwiring gets seriously rearranged.
With actress Jenna, can she ever really forget how she was treated BEFORE she got famous?
One time in NY, I was at a “briefing” with an ASHO registrar. What a light-hearted buoyant fella he was. He regaled us with an uplifting tale of him pushing so hard, ultimately completely dominating and overwhelming a then unknown Jenna Elfman to pay him for her Saint Hill Special Briefing Course.
Completing the arrangement, he was in L.A. and she was somewhere else. This was before cell phones. He breezily spoke of how he engaged in pushing her SO HARD into card debt that SHE COULD NOT AFFORD, she was on a payphone reading out her card numbers, simultaneously sobbing and crying her eyes out.
Oh that warms your heart, a fine example of a good time had by all. For this ASHO registrar, this was a memory for him of sheer delight. (Gasp)
I thought it was AWFUL. And—since I was paying attention to who was doing what and which stories were reported in “Celebrity” magazine—I found it curious that it did not appear Jenna Elfman ever did the SHSBC. Like, never.
This exposure to registration (on the flow “Others to Others”) foretold where I would one day end up in my understanding. I could see it then: the registrar cared not at all for Jenna Elfman, or her career or certainly her finances or even if she would do the Briefing Course. He cared for pushing his stat by Thursday at 2:00, realities of a struggling broke actress be damned.
Many of us know how rough it is, this process of piercing your own veil, the one you have been supervised and taught, thread by individual thread, to construct.
I’m watching season 2, episode 6 of Scientology and the Aftermath on Netflix at this moment. I never knew Jenna Elfman was a Scientologist before watching this episode. Obviously, I don’t pay much attention to pop-culture, but I have always admired Mrs. Elfman in all of her roles. I’m disappointed to learn that she appears to be devoted to Scientology, but I hope she finds her way out sooner rather than later.
Also, please tell Leah that some random Midwestern woman named Gina says, “hi!” I didn’t really know what Scientology was until I read her book. Also, hi Mike! I’m glad you found your freedom, and I’m inspired by the work you do.
I have never been in Scientology. Just a regular Joe who has watched your television series in horror at the lack of empathy for the pain and suffering the organization has perpetrated on its members and their families. I mention that only to give you a frame of reference for my comments.
I urge you to continue to fight, and know we – average, agnostic, non-religious people everywhere – are with you. You ARE winning and you will achieve your goal.
The truth and a free press are unassailable weapons.
The truth is that everyone is “religious” in the basic sense of the word. Yes, even the Atheist! Even more so.
Another way to put it is that everyone has a worldview, yet not all worldviews are true.
There are worldviews where “truth” is subjective/relative, but if you know basic logic, “truth” would not exist in that reality, as truth is objective/absolute.
That’s where cults and false religions get their power. They can claim all sorts of things, yet don’t have to show, nor prove, their basis for such claims. When pressured, they hide or attack because they have no foundation in truth.
You can claim to be an agnostic, which I may have considered myself as being for a time, but that doesn’t strip you of having a worldview, a religion or perception of reality; a belief system.
This begs the question… since truth happens to be of vital importance, what is it?
The answer is not found in Scientology, obviously. It’s not found in psychology nor philosophy either. That is why there are so many faiths/religions/worldviews of which most, if not all, claiming to be true, yet typically are not.
Without writing a book… not selling any, there is only one truth and it can be known for free. It’s also the “way” to confront and destroy Scientology or any cult. He goes by many names and is the very essence of love. Perhaps you have heard of the only one to rightly claim to be “the way, the truth, and the life”.
I hope all can seek and find truth as I have.
No paid membership required.
“the bubble of lies” – in other words, a held-down 7. Geez, where have I heard that before? Hmmm …
All of that stuff about forced disconnection, forced abortions, driving people into bankruptcy, none of that can be true because Scn is the most ethical group on the planet. They told us so. And what’s true is what you’ve been told is true. Or something.
She is a celebrity. The rest of us aren’t treated like she is. I’m always starving for some affinity from someone and I don’t care who. She is probably complimented constantly. But she is entitled to her words and opinions. Aren’t we all?
Yes indeed, people are certainly entitled to their opinions, even if their opinions are being given in a vacuum, with no knowledge or, perhaps, simply no empathy, for the way non-celebrities are treated. I firmly believe that, because celebrities have access to the Internet and television and, considering how many people have left the cult and spoken out against it, they must have some idea of what’s going on. Three people leave, you figure it may be three isolated cases. When over 100,000 leave – from what I gather, the cult had about 150,000 followers in its heyday – you’ve got one hell of a smoking gun. Celebrity cult members can’t possibly be unaware of this. I’d have to assume that they’re willfully blind to it.
It’s really hard to say. I wish I was smarter like you. I don’t have that option anymore. I just meant that public are treated differently than attractive, young TV stars. Nope, I’m 40 and I’m just a “training unit” or a Thursday stat for somebody else. Thanks for your reply. Hope you are having a great day.
No. Not at all. “What is true is what you have observed for yourself.” Part of the gig is that you have references. Anti-scientologists do this all the time: twisting the sources till they are ridiculous. Write it down for next time. Hard to be honest with a dishonest person.
Faith and religion is free. Cults are not. They may give you something to believe in, but the motivation for those on the inside is money. Manipulation and lies is not a good way to live. It’s not for a good cause.
Another interesting thing to note is that for hubbard there are two types of tone level about something. I don’t remember if he said it in a conference or anywhere else.
That is, the social one and the real / chronic one. The social one is always higher than the real one. So if at least that’s true she has a bored tone in public about these controversies, but the real one is fear or anger.
And this makes sense. If asked about Shelly, the abuses perpetrated by DM, the money from the IAS, etc., she would go into a catatonic state in a matter of seconds.
They have lived the glorious legends of misty faceless SPs won and destroyed by DM but now that these “SP” have a face and something to say that is undeniable where are the heroes from the anti SP tech that always works? Where are they?
“We’ve never cheated on each other. We’ve never broken up. We hang in there.
And, no, my relationship with my horse has NOTHING to do with my commitment to my marriage, OK?”
Jenna Elfman. Currently residing in the “where are they now?” file.
“And we all shine on!”
I am sure Bill Maher or Anderson Cooper would be more than happy to interview Jenna . Certain Leah Remini would be willing to debate the subject with Jenna. Would be great for dissemination . Up for it Jenna ?
Yeah, those are interviews no scientologist will EVER do.
As I said, they run from SP’s.
We invited scientology to send ANYONE to appear on every episode of The Aftermath. They’re so scared that when they first demanded to meet with the production company, they insisted that neither Leah or me be present… That was the first and last time they even agreed to an OFF CAMERA meeting.
They’re terrible cowards, despite having “the tech” to protect them.
Damn. They got a very delicate ‘theta’ balance these days. They risk falling apart or stuck as soon as you ask for something just below 2.5.
Plus, they’re kinda nuts.
Like a good hypnotized machine robot, with no actual original thought, she is using the tone scale by saying the word “boring”. She’s not bored, she’s applying the tone scale and thinking, in standard Scientology robot talk, that her super powers of applying the tone scale will bring us all uptone.
Scientologists are so predictable because their minds are a conglomeration of imprinted easy to uncover simplicities.
Gone are the days of personal original thinking. And with a cute face, nice smile, nice hairdo; they seem normal. They are mental disasters masquerading as a normal human.
That is quite a summation Brian!
You hit the nail right on the head, Brian! The actual tone level of the general raw public toward Scientology is NOT antagonism! That is WAY too high. More like “No Sympathy” at the highest, I’d say!
The Rx from dr schlublard is speak 1/2 tone above, that’s what they buy their data.. But asking around about Dharma, and kids are like “who?”, those that hear the truth and know that the cult is guilty, and it’s just more evidence of disconnect by still-in celebs.
After the story told in https://www.ronssecondcoming.com/material/delphi-academy/ our hero took a bit of a revenge. He had learned that a task group of Delphi parents was trying to infiltrate some school board to introduce some scientology doctrine in the disguise of human rights. They had already set up a meeting with that supervisor, but this never happened after our hero send an email to that supervisor with a link to the story as published on delphiparents.com.
Good story. Thanks for posting.
DRAMATIC CORONAVIRUS BREAKTHROUGH!
Scientists have just discovered that only WOGS are subject to coronavirus infection. Scios are completely immune. Orgs flooded. Membership up 4 billion.
If you are unable to get to local org or mission because of floods of public all you have to do is find a pole and run around it until you pass out. That should do the trick.
Thanks COB and also that other guy, can’t remember his name Ronald, Ruben something like that.
The “cure” for the coronavirus IS AUDITING!!! This happens when a scientologist gets rid of the coronavirus infected Body Thetan. The virus then leaves the scientologist and goes with the Body Thetan. The Body Thetan then goes to your next door neighbor and finds a new home there…. Take that Wogs
Does that mean that I, and an SP, will be sure to get it???
Only the imaginary kind of coronavirus….We have to play dead so they think that they got us…….
The annual L Ron Hubbard Birthday event scheduled at Ruth Eckerd Hall, in Clearwater Fl
this past Saturday night was canceled.
Whoo hoo!
Now, I wonder if Miscavige will mandate that his Sea Org slaves get tested (free of course; the cult won’t pay for this).
It would be a good idea given how in their berthing the SO are crammed in, 8 to a room, etc.
Talk about petri dishes for the spread of this thing.
But then it would most likely take out the older, senior citizen Sea Ogres which saving Tiny Fists the time and trouble of getting them Fitness Boarded.
But on the OTHER hand, those young ones could be carriers, giving it to the oldsters who can afford auditing.
Edit: “…WHILE saving Tiny Fists the time and trouble of getting the old ones Fitness Boarded.”
I think it was supposed to be Friday, was re-scheduled at the last minute, and then finally cancelled. I’d love to hear the inside story of that “flap.”
Canceled probably due to lack of interest. Should have had Jenna and Mr. Ed on the ticket.
Yes, being disconnected from your family, being beaten by the leader, being Fair Gamed, stalked, giving all your money, etc is just SO boring.
🙂 Yawn.
God, those people are awful to perpetuate these practices. The families and relationships they’ve hurt.
You’re right that it’s scary to see how incapable they become of perceiving what’s in front of them or thinking logically. But it’s also so sad. When I think of all the lives, and all the years of lives, lost to the control of cults like Scientology, it hurts my heart. Whether or not there’s reincarnation, those people and those years can never be got back. They were unique persons and unique parts of lives that won’t be repeated. All one can do is try to live as well as one can from this point on.
I think the most important word here is “Cult.”
Jenna Elfman says that Scientology helps her stay grounded? I heard that DM had to bury a large copper wire into the earth, and then left a few feet of it out of the ground so he hang onto it and discharge his negative energies into the ground. Little did he know that all he had to do was to connect to a water pipe in his own home by tying a wire to it, and then hang on to that. It would have been a better ground than the one he made himself…..Since scientology seems to be cranking up the printing presses for the mailing list, I have a solution. We need to have a designated mass mailing day to return all the junk mail they send out to people who don’t want it. Imagine a huge mail truck driving up to Saint Hill with tons of junk mail to be opened and processed. It will cost postage, but revenge will be sweet.
I suspect Jenna gave up a big withold in session, was sent to Ethics and forced to “make amends” by making that statement.
I’ve had witholds I’d given up in session that were instantly shared with registrars. The camera and microphones in the rooms recorded it all. It was no surprise reading about D,M. and staff listening to Tom Cruise’s session recordings. Within an hour of a session ending I’d be shagged by a reg and it was totally clear she’d had my witholds shared with her.
Yes, it is a blood thirsty cult. I sincerely hope Jenna with wake up some day like I did.
Using “boring” reminds me of how Trump trashed his fellow Republican presidential candidates in 2016 with “low energy”.
Keep up the high energy Mike and don’t let the shills get you down.
Well, he’ll stay “high energy” so long as Adderall stays in business!
Long ago I shared a story about her. She befriended a friend of mine in a PC waiting room. Of course my friend was dazzled to have a real live celeb caring about her little life. Well this ‘friendship’ led to my friend ponying up $50,000 to the IAS.
Once this ‘mission’ was accomplished, this actress, disappeared to do some celeb thing. My friend was dazzled, but interestingly the celeb for all her friendship-y vibe, didn’t give my friend her contact info. So it was kind of a hit-and-run friendship.
Like maybe not really a friendship, but a way to loosen $50,000 from a person who never should have spent that money.
At the time, my friend had no retirement savings, just credit card debt. Since she’s disconnected from me, I don’t know if she ever retired, or will work till she drops.
This actress is a piece of work. And she made a $5,000.00 commission off a bubble-dwelling, paycheck-to-paycheck, near retirement, person.
I think that is sad.
Even though my friend disconnected from me and wrote a blazing, lie-filled, KR, which sealed my fate with the cherch, a part of me still cares about her.
I will never forgive that ass hat actress though.
Wow. Thank you for sharing that story. Its appalling, but thank you. Well done on still caring about your sitting duck still in friend despite her treatment of you.
Thanks Aquamarine. I’m grateful I didn’t lose family when I left.
Leaving my best friend was so wrenching.
She wouldn’t do anything, but protect her ethics standing. Her clean bill of health was bought by a scathing write up of my actions.
Funny, some of my transgressions, in the write up, were actually hers.
I wondered if she actually knew this or was that deluded.
Her “clean bill of health” is her sheer delusion.
The “love” of these people…wow.
It can sound like love; it can feel like its love…but its not.
I don’t know what it is, or what to call it, actually.
But its not love, that’s for sure.
And whatever it is, its worthless.
That’s terrible!
Wow, thank you for sharing your story. It shows how devious and low Jenna Elfman is to love bomb someone and use her celebrity to get them to spend $50,000 to the IAS, money they don’t really have. And to make a commission on that donation. Jenna never had any success as an actress other than the old Dharma and Greg show 20 to 30 years ago. So she must be living off her commission from getting people to donate to the IAS through devious means.
I have noticed a lot of D level, if that, celebrities, being smiley friendly to the more upstat members at FLAG. I’m sure they are making more money on their six month checks, ‘befriending’ and ‘helping’ fellow scientologists, than they are spending.
Seeing their bright white choppers approaching from across the Hibiscus Lounge, should be a warning to he unwary.
If the sailors say, red sky at morning, sailor take warning, then I offer, Celeb’s teeth coming over, white as snow, Grab your wallet and your soul, it’s time to Blow.
That to me is the underlying scandal of what is really partly a pyramid scheme, that all those who FSM including those minor “celebrities” who don’t label themselves as such but still rely on the commissions, keep the financial scam going as their means of existence.
And those celebs really should be identified as commissioned salespersons when interviewed about Scientology, because that’s actually how they function.
LOL, So Jenna just puts her pointer fingers in her ears and chants LALALALA Lollipop, or some other happy little ditty? No wonder she finds the cult such a help to her! Atta girl Jenna. Keep up the good work of saving the world you poor stupid girl.
I saw Jenna a while back at a birthday party for a guy who was training her on firearms. She was with some guy other than Bodhi, wonder if they’re still together? Maybe he was an actor in the Walking Dead show she’s doing. I remember when she used to do movies, oh well.
I reminded Jenna of when we first met at Celebrity Centre 30 years ago and she and my then wife were talking about how they both thought they’d had been flappers in a former life.
She left shortly after that. Guess I hit a nerve.
You mean to tell me that Jenna Elfman hasn’t found her Super Powers yet? Wow! That’s a fate worse than the RPFs RPF.
As a public service to your readers, with your permission Mike I would like to post a process my good scio friend gave me to ward off any possibility of coronavirus infection.
The process goes like this:
Auditor: Find someone who has contracted coronavirus. Have you done that?
PC: Yes.
Auditor: Thank you. Now I want you to go up to that person and put out your hand for a handshake and shake their hand vigorously and at the same time breathing in heavily and if they consent open your mouth and ask them to spit in it.
PC: OK yes I did that.
Auditor: Thank you. End of process. Congratulations you have gone through the Wall of Coronavirus.
Know you won’t post this, but sometimes I have to vent. All the best, tony bennett. Yes that tony bennett.
Tony Bennett??? Wow! I’m a huge fan!
THAT Tony Bennett? Ooh, ooh! Just kidding; loved the one you made with Bill Evans many years ago and the one you made with “friends” a few years ago. I’m glad to see you’re no friend of scientology; thanks for your post.
“THAT Tony Bennett?” I wish. I love him.
Bixntram, just as a note , Tony made TWO albums with Bill Evans. Of course, both albums were absolutely tremendous. Both the singing and the piano playing were of the highest order.
It’s nice to see a person of great talent bashing an organization that deserves bashing, and using satire to make his statement.
Many people have left their hearts and wallets in Scientology, have discovered the Scientology lady is a Tramp, and should have learned long ago that when it comes to the grand OT-ness of Scientology there is one important fact: It Don’t Mean a Thing.
Tony Bennett: smart and talented. That’s plenty good enough for me. Best wishes.
Beautiful article Mike.
The other thing that comes to mind is when asked to explain what Scientology is. Many begin with the usual mantra ‘know how to know’ which explains nothing and is even pretentious.
Unfortunately this cult is an implant. Everything contributes to accepting and identifying you in an imposed idea, even your ‘spontaneous’ success stories. I am not surprised that this girl speaks like this.
When I was starting out and disseminated like crazy (errors of youth) I had a way of explaining Scientology that closed 90% of people. It was three sentences. But I won’t say it here. I don’t want them to use it to start growing right now. But believe me on the word that worked. You were always told an aspect that the person wanted to improve in his life.
Great write up Mike.
My own opinion is that people like Jenna are born knock out physically gorgeous and therefore have many options in professions such as acting. Of course the criticism of Scientology is boring and she is in boredom. She is not really working. I am sure she has had a great life of affluence. If Miscavige would ever release the OT VIII Student Briefing by Hubbard in June, 1980, Jenna would be in for the shock of her life. The Genetic Entity, according to Hubbard, is in reality destroying physical beauty forever.
Years ago I read a series of paperbacks called “The Star People”. It suggested that aliens visited Teegeeack in ancient times and made genetic modifications in early hominids which are now activating in many humans. There may still be hope for the Genetic Entity!
Many scientologists would consider themselves Star People, Earth not necessarily being home planet.
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Star people (also known as starseeds and sometimes indigo children) is a New Age belief and fringe theory. Introduced by Brad Steiger in his 1976 book Gods of Aquarius,[1] it argues that certain people originated as extraterrestrials and arrived on Earth through birth or as a walk-in to an existing human body. It is a variant of the belief in alien-human hybrids.[2] There are many different beliefs as to the origins of star people or starseeds.[3] The term “star people” was taken from an existing Native American spiritual concept.[4]
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Steiger described “Star People” in his 1976 book on contactees as “humans who come from a special gene pool linked to visits by extraterrestrials”.[5]
They claim to come into human lifeforms and suffer helplessness and total amnesia concerning their identity, origins and life-purpose.[6][7] The awakening process claimed to be experienced[8] is described as either a gradual series of realizations over time, or an abrupt and dramatic awakening of consciousness. Through the awakening process, they regain memories about their past, origins and missions[9] An increase in intuition, psychic ability, and the sense of a more universal “self” that transcends mortal identity are also commonly reported.[citation needed] Some claim communication via telepathy with unearthly beings, either physical or non-physical.[citation needed] Some believe that life exists on other planets. Most believe they have lived on other planets, and many recount experiences they claim are memories of life on other worlds. The concepts of spaceships, intergalactic travel, psychic phenomena and sentient life forms in other galaxies are common.[10][11][unreliable source?]
Washington Post journalist Joel Achenbach interviewed people who said they were starseeds from the Pleiades for his book “Captured by Aliens: The Search for Life and Truth in a Very Large Universe”, and noted the contrast with ufologists: “the starseed are precisely the kind of New Age figures the traditional ufologists can’t stand. Ufologists look outward, toward the universe, for answers to the alien enigma. New Agers look inward.”[12]
Great Info. Thanks Richard. As you know, I am Universe Chief Information Officer. I can use all of the info in my interviews.
I’m happy to be of service, Sir. As an Original OT8 you are indeed most qualified for the position of UCIO.
Then, George, in your new exalted position as UCIO (in Scientology, called “You See? I Owe…”)you should point out the science that shows every one of us is made of star-stuff. At the Big Bang all the atoms that every will exist were suddenly appeared, and after various novae and drifting gases coalescing into planets and stars (or is it stars and planets) one can be assured we are made of star stuff, though the atoms in our left hand might be from one star, and those in the left from another – or any combination of stars.
I love it! UCIO (YUU Cee IH OHHH)
An interesting project that makes a new music video! Thanks for the idea.
Grreeaattt. I’m on it.
Genetic modifications by extraterrestrials would be a possible theory for the “missing link”, the transformation from apes to self conscious bipeds. All theoretical of course. 😇