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LA Org — The “Model” Ideal Org

January 15, 2022 By Mike Rinder 45 Comments

This is the model ideal org that all orgs are supposed to follow…

The one manned entirely by Sea Org members (which is NOT able to be duplicated by Class V orgs anywhere else).

This says a lot about the state of this org.

They need to ROUND UP and CALL IN people in order to have 30 people in the shots…. They don’t have 30 people in the org already? They have to call in actors? What is up with that?

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Filed Under: Ideal Orgs Tagged With: Betsy Davis, LA org, SMP

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  1. Duped-Lie-Cated says

    January 17, 2022 at 5:47 pm

    So many thoughts on this.

    They are hand-picking “actors” who look healthy, unstressed who can afford nice clothes. It’s not an ad in the org mag, but a specific letter to Gus.

    Leave it to scn to wait until the last minute and create Hill 10’s out of a simple task. Everyone’s too busy trying to sell something, than secure 30 actors for a non income producing project. But wait…they can all be regged after the shoot!

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  2. NN Grad says

    January 17, 2022 at 3:50 pm

    One year after the shooting session, most of the public shot are expected to be blown or in bad standing.

    The people from SMP know it and dont want to repeat their hard dissemination work.

    Get actors is the clever choice

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  3. Golden Era Parachute says

    January 17, 2022 at 1:42 pm

    Actors? Wait, I thought there were all of these dead Scientologists who were going to hop into new bodies that would be showing up ready for course?! There is a lot of attrition in Scientology due to dropping the body, so there should be hordes of the dead wading into the LA org. What happened or is this simply another ‘belief not proven through evidence’ scenario? (x.x)

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  4. Sharon Bare says

    January 16, 2022 at 10:55 pm

    Where are they finding the money for this monstrosity with their membership shrinking?

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  5. Bixntram says

    January 16, 2022 at 11:27 am

    I’m curious to see the results of this fiasco.

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    • Mark Kamran says

      January 16, 2022 at 11:29 pm

      It’s a Final count down…..

      Reply
  6. dr mac says

    January 16, 2022 at 3:13 am

    I have a wife who spent many years on staff (even after having a mental breakdown) and who persists to this day in leaving everything to the last moment and then having to make an urgent last-minute decision. I used to wonder why. I recently had an example that opened my eyes to a possible reason. It has nothing whatsoever to do with scientology but has its root in pure stupidity.

    A decision had to be made on what to do with a certain chest of drawers. We have a vacant cottage and a tenant has agreed to move in. My wife had dumped a chest of drawers in there as a short term solution to a previous dilemma. And there it sits. I pestered her and pestered her to make a decision as to what to do with it. She’s always too ‘busy’ to even consider a solution.

    Then came the time to move and it was once again a last-minute panic decision. I realised then that she was really either too stupid to make an actual decision or too indecisive (and it’s really the same thing) and the ‘panic’ behind the decision just becomes a reason why making a poor decision is acceptable. “There was no time” or “We had to just do the best we could under the circumstances”. In fact there was plenty of time for a considered decision.

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    • pluvo says

      January 16, 2022 at 8:41 am

      “… but has its root in pure stupidity”

      Dear dr mac, I know about this phenomena in certain situations (including the panic attacks), and it has nothing to do with stupidity, but has other reasons.

      If it has to do with the situations your wife was subjected to when she was on staff, I cannot say, but it could be. When she had even a mental breakdown, she could have PTSD what she could probably not be even aware of or could have other residues from that time.

      I understand that it can be frustrating for you, especially when there is no logic. Maybe you can get your wife some therapeuthical help (should be from someone who also understands cults).

      Where you also in Scientology when your wife was on staff?

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    • Tory Christman says

      January 16, 2022 at 2:54 pm

      “Dr Mac”…. No real doctor would say such things, certainly not publicly. Shame on you calling your wife such names.
      No, she is not “stupid”… She probably is indecisive, but that has to do with problems way deeper than scientology, although They never helped her with this.

      Has she ever been tested for ADHD? Scientology never would as only a psychiatrist can decide, and they are 💯% against all psychiatry.
      LA Org? For years they have8 tried to make it an “example”.: EPIC FAIL each time.

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  7. Real says

    January 15, 2022 at 9:58 pm

    If they don’t have 30 people wondering around PAC they can grab, NO other Class V org in the USA has even 5 parishioners! The Witch is DEAD.

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  8. Dotey OT says

    January 15, 2022 at 9:27 pm

    To anyone that has ever hung out (or worked in) an AO or upper org, this is a pretty big deal. They had the pick of hundreds at flag because of outer org trainees, but there were still a fair number of public to get stuck in gold shoots, in the 90s through 2010’s.

    Fast forward to 2022, and they have to speak out to get people onto the base and shoot?

    More absolute proof things are really bad inside.

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  9. OTD says

    January 15, 2022 at 6:27 pm

    The SMP crew has just arrived after a long, arduous journey from – uh – down the street!!!!

    No time to waste! Send out the heralds! Then get the heralds to darken those silvery strands in their hair, put on some sporty clothes, and walk around with clipboards to make this place look alive. Then comm ev the heralds for not doing it right.

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  10. mreppen says

    January 15, 2022 at 2:51 pm

    This was happening when I was in the Sea Org, back in the 90’s Golden Era would have actors play public at FSO, and Orgs that won the Birthday Game and other places.

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  11. I Yawnalot says

    January 15, 2022 at 2:38 pm

    The really good point is obviously they have little to bugger all people who believe in that crap anymore.
    Scientology’s self destruction is assured, wish they’d hurry up and get a done on it! I’m getting too old and want to celebrate their demise before my own.

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    • Jere Lull says

      January 15, 2022 at 5:30 pm

      I’m with ya’ Yawn. What’s the tipping point going to be which presages the catastrophic collapse of the little fiefdom carved out of scientology pretending it is scientology. There WILL come a point when the tiny tyrant can’t pay attention to ALL the stuff he’s keeping artificially propped up.

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    • bixntram says

      January 16, 2022 at 11:16 am

      “little to bugger all people”. When I first read this, my aging American brain didn’t recognize the British (or Aussie?) expression, “bugger all.” But my first take was apt enough: they have little to bugger even a few people, let alone all people, ha ha. I need more caffeine.

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      • I Yawnalot says

        January 16, 2022 at 4:24 pm

        Yes, Scientology is an international irritant, like a hard to eradicate, noxious weed. Or to use a US geographical analogy, it’s an ‘bad lands.’ It’s there, but an infertile, barren sort of place very few, if any people would ever go there. Somewhere to definitely avoid.

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  12. nomnom says

    January 15, 2022 at 2:16 pm

    Shrinkage in Scientology?

    Miscavige: “I was in the pool!”

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    • Briget says

      January 15, 2022 at 5:29 pm

      😂😂😂 !!

      Reply
  13. Free Minds, Free Hearts says

    January 15, 2022 at 2:12 pm

    This seems ridiculous that they don’t already have 30 people there? What a failed, pathetic loser group.

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  14. John P. says

    January 15, 2022 at 2:06 pm

    I love the last-minute emergency nature of this project: a production crew showed up unannounced today and we must recruit tons of people tonight (by pathetic begging) so they can shoot tomorrow. Most normal businesses schedule special requests like this a couple of weeks in advance just so there’s no emergency getting people in to support the filming. But in Scientology, it’s always an emergency even when it doesn’t have to be. This seems to be so that the senior people have a built-in excuse to abuse the junior staff charged with rounding up an audience.

    Of course, the above comment is ignoring the fact that the most prestigious org on the planet doesn’t have dozens of people coming through the doorway every day, as others have pointed out.

    I also like what other people have pointed out: that Betsy’s attempting to use some sort of Jedi mind tricks in her wording to get people to respond. I wonder how she manages to reconcile her use of sure-fire Tone 40 writing with the lack of results. Will she assume she’s doing it wrong, that the public in LA are all PTS, or will she finally figure out that the “tech” laid down by Hubbard just simply doesn’t work.

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  15. xTeamXenu75to03chuckbeatty says

    January 15, 2022 at 1:56 pm

    Faking it, Scientology promotion style.

    With a name like Scientology, and with the false promises of the stepladder of “spiritual services” (quack pseudo-therapy at the lower levels, and exorcism starting at AOLA level up to the Flag Clearwater final levels of exorcism) it is a challenge NOT to fake things related to Scientology.

    It’s a whole lot of faking, the whole stepladder of quackery is faking good results, but the members get the hang of it.

    Institutionalised faking it, but none of them make it, since it is quackery they are doing, so they won’t be rewarded.

    The Scientologists ought to slip into a library, pull the “Going Clear….” book off the book shelves, and skip to the final two pages, and read where Hubbard admitted failure, at the end of the book, and the other worse details at the end of LRH’s life.

    Hubbard at least was briefly superficially honest enough to admit to Sarge at Creston, that he’d failed.

    The movement and everyone giving Scientology the briefest of thought, should read the final two pages of “Going Clear….”

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    • Jere Lull says

      January 15, 2022 at 5:37 pm

      EVERYTHING in scn is “faking it until you make it”, a result of Tubby’s own organizational skills and the many lies he told to gather up slaves to follow and worship his half-cocked ideas. If he was disappointed in anything about his life, it was that he failed to fix his own psychological problems. That he helped no one else was a minor event of no notice. He couldn’t make himself the superman he desperately needed to think himself.

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      • xTeamXenuLRH'sBlown75to03chuckbeatty says

        January 16, 2022 at 12:12 pm

        Absolutely.

        Where’s Hubbard?

        Like where’s Waldo?

        He ain’t come back to fix his empire’s decline during the Miscavige era, has he?

        I guess what LRH said to Sarge at Creston is true, lol. That he’s not coming back.

        Because, where’s Hubbard?

        Quitter! He’s in worse than Treason to the movement he set floating as the Hubbard big boat of quackery snipe hunting sales.

        Hubbard’s jumped ship from his Xenu exorcism sales con grift himself.

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  16. Loosing my Religion says

    January 15, 2022 at 1:16 pm

    I don’t remember any policy or Flag Order, or Central Bureaux Order where hubbard talks about Class V formed only by SO members. Looks like another DM brand hybrid. I don’t list all the other squirrel things he did because you certainly know them.
    The most obvious question is:
    but how the heck can a normal class 5 staff feel comparing themselves to a crew of SO members who have no family or children and no rent to pay and must see LA org as a thing to idealize on?

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    • Jere Lull says

      January 15, 2022 at 5:50 pm

      There WAS no such FO or policy. DM just had to do something in a hurry and that was the easiest solution that came to his tiny brain. And the whole idea of Dianetics being flipped from the first “central org” professional auditor’s course to Class V was bizarre, requiring him to eliminate the HSDC and Tubby’s original Class V/VI courses. TBH, I suppose he dropped the SHSBC first and needed SOMEthing to fill in class V for the status it conferred. “Cope and organize”, I suppose he rationalized it, if he indeed spent any time thinking about the process, but he never got to the “organize” step, AFAICT.

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  17. Angry Gay Pope says

    January 15, 2022 at 1:09 pm

    I could literally name 10 bike guards, many of whom look like male models, who should already be on the property for use as “props.” Did the SO there all die of COVID?

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    • Jere Lull says

      January 15, 2022 at 5:54 pm

      No, I doubt that we would have missed notice of that huge a failure on DM’s ‘handling’ of Covid. More likely is that he’s banished them to some dungeon or they’ve moved on from being scn’s most abject slaves. I wish them well in their new lives.

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  18. Zee Moo says

    January 15, 2022 at 12:33 pm

    I see a lot of ‘purposeful striding’ in those 30 actors future. I suspect that the 30 had to come from outside staff and Sea bOrg because of the ‘nice clothes’ requirement. Can’t have everyone looking like they are ready to park your car or see how well you want your steak done.

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  19. Bill Ross says

    January 15, 2022 at 12:27 pm

    So desperate for people and calling them what they are; “actors”. I’m sure they’ll present this at an annual meeting as a success, lol. Too bad there’s not a business ethics commission that can bust their ass for misrepresentation.

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  20. Rosemarie says

    January 15, 2022 at 12:07 pm

    Haha. Lipstick on a pig and that putting down pigs. Good one MaryKahn. Lol. I remember them coming into our academy from Div 2 taking pictures with people playing a roll for the camera. I used to wonder why couldn’t they just take shit of regular students on a regular day? Nope. It was all posed!!! Like the whole scene! All phony posers. ☺️😑

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  21. Glenn says

    January 15, 2022 at 9:56 am

    Definitely a sign of shrinkage.
    Wish the IRS would rescind tax exemption. Think that would push out the whales who are keeping it afloat financially.

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    • Jere Lull says

      January 15, 2022 at 6:01 pm

      If the current income stream is interrupted, Davey can keep the appearances up for quite awhile with his “reserves”, particularly as he’s only occasionally paying a few people even peanuts pay. MOST of the current slaves are pretty much paying whatever they banked in the real world for the “privilege” of doing his bidding.

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      • Glenn says

        January 16, 2022 at 11:56 am

        Quite true Jerr.

        But one has to wonder how much of Whiskey Tosser’s reserves would be sucked up if our federal government’s rescission of exempt status also required payment of all taxes it avoided in the decades the exemption was in place? Truly think that would be both appropriate and favored by the government as it is always looking for ways to grow its income.

        And then there’s the impact this might have on state and local tax exemptions the cult enjoys today. State income tax? Local property tax? How much might these losses cost the cult?

        Then there’s the huge legal/attorney/PI/etc costs Davey will need to shell out in the battle too. Bet that will suck the reserves down significantly too.

        Fingers crossed

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        • Jere Lull says

          January 16, 2022 at 8:06 pm

          Fingers crossed that the tiny tyrant comes out of his bunker to start the war he doesn’t dare start as he can’t win if the real-world truths get unearthed.
          Truth be told, I doubt that unpaid taxes would be levied for those years that the fiction was accepted by the IRS, though it’d be a MONUMENTAL bill sucking his cash reserves dry.

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  22. Mark says

    January 15, 2022 at 9:43 am

    I love this “theta” communication that is addressed to…
    GUS!
    Who is GUS? GUS is the Protector Thetan for L.A. Org.
    This is actually a coded postulate/ prayer combo, and GUS will get those well-dressed thetans into the org…
    Sir, yes sir, COB!

    Scienbollocky, making shit up for 70 years, and still failing/flailing!
    Hip, hip, shit spray!

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    • Jill says

      January 15, 2022 at 4:56 pm

      Really, what is the story of GUS? So curious.

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      • Mark says

        January 15, 2022 at 8:46 pm

        Jill,
        Super Thetan Gus:

        He’s on the cult clown bus
        Leaving entheta in the dust
        Creating new realities and kickin’ up a fuss
        Deploying the tech, planetary clearing or bust!

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        • Jere Lull says

          January 16, 2022 at 8:11 pm

          “planetary clearing or bust!”
          wait for it…

          BOOM!

          Planetary clearing was never a rational goal. That was obvious even in the ’70s

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  23. otherles says

    January 15, 2022 at 9:42 am

    I have nothing to say about empty orgs. (I appear to be punning again.)

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    • Jere Lull says

      January 16, 2022 at 8:14 pm

      Accept your pun-ishment like a good born-again wog, les.😇

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      • otherles says

        January 17, 2022 at 8:29 am

        Speaking of puns. I read a short story by Arthur C. Clarke. In it an American cruiser got too close to a black hole and the only recognizable piece of wreckage was a “star mangled spanner.”

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  24. Fred G. Haseney says

    January 15, 2022 at 9:23 am

    “And that’s what we must do, right?”

    If Betsy had left this sentence off her communication, then what she asked would have been simple and sweet, if not a tad desperate.

    By adding that sentence, however, Betsy’s control over anyone in receipt of her communication becomes quite clear. She needs to get bodies into the shop. Agreeable bodies.

    If you don’t agree with Betsy whole-heartedly, you just might find yourself routed to the Ethics Officer. From there, you’ll be routed to Qual where you’ll be Sec Checked for “counter intention” – all taking place so conveniently before Thursday at 2:00 PM.

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    • Jere Lull says

      January 16, 2022 at 8:19 pm

      In that case, just don’t show up until 2:45 PM. You’ll not be a “stat” for a week, then. THAT’ll confuse them, making them conjure up all sorts of false “whys” and frantic “fixes”. That’ll serve to keep them distracted from their actual situations, probably making them less depressed.

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  25. Mary Kahn says

    January 15, 2022 at 8:26 am

    … all to create a false impression that scientology is doing well in the world and one should go in and see for themselves. HUH! Good luck with that. Lipstick on a pig. If this promotion was successful in bringing someone in (and I doubt it would bring in even one), then chances are they won’t last long; it’s still a pig. But I think I’m giving a bad name to pigs.

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