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Narconon – Introducing Them To “Our Tech”

September 15, 2015 By Mike Rinder 92 Comments

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The big push is on — open the unwanted Narconon “celebrity/VIP” centers across the world so Miscavige has something to talk about at the IAS Event. This is the latest. Narconon Ojai… It’s been a long time coming, but the heat is on now, because it’s just a month til the IAS event. Tony Ortega first reported on it way back in April 2014 (where I predicted it would be a Celeb/VIP Narconon)…

And while Narconon, ABLE and the church scream like stuck pigs when the plaintiffs in the numerous lawsuits filed over abuses in Narconon claim they are part of “scientology” and are controlled by the church, here is just another example of what a lie that is.

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Desperate to get people there to be in the video, the CO CLO WUS sends out a last minute plea to anyone and everyone pitching them to be put on the list.  “This CANNOT be a broad invitation…” even though she sent it out to everyone she possibly could hoping she would get more than 200 people who want to attend and can weed out the riff-raff so Mr. Cruise and COB don’t have to mingle with the hoi-polloi. But even more ctastrophic, if she can’t find 200 people in the largest concentration of scientologists on earth, she will have to send SO members to fill up the shots. That means she will have to hire buses and they will waste an entire day going to Ojai and they won’t be on post regging for the IAS and selling Basics and overstocks of Congresses from the Bridge warehouse.

But in the middle of her pitch about how important this is, and knowing it is going to “scientologists” (wink wink) the real reason for Narconon is laid out in plain sight: “introducing them to our tech.”

Now, in this case, “our” tech is not “narconon tech” it is “scientology tech.” Because “narconon tech” is THEIR tech, Vicki is NOT Narconon. It’s a completely separate secular organization that has nothing to do with scientology.

Right.

The statement that an important purpose of Narconon is “introducing them to our tech” would come as NO SURPRISE to any scientologist. It is what they ALL think.

It only comes as a “surprise” to the attorneys trying to beat back the lawyers who are suing over the abuses their clients experienced at Narconon. They stand before the court expressing indignant amazement that anyone could claim that narconon has anything to do with scientology. The only lawyers that squeal louder than those guys are the ones in court shrieking that David Miscavige has had absolutely nothing to do with [fill in the blank] scientology organization ever in history.

The lies and disdain for the “wog world” don’t diminish even when exposed. They just tell bigger lies to cover up their earlier ones.

Watch, at the IAS event Miscavige is going to talk about the MASSIVE INTERNATIONAL EXPANSION and that Narconon is the “fastest expanding drug rehab program on earth” and “has expanded 52.79X more in the last year than in the 75 million years previously.” It’s going to be EPIC news about Narconon’s monumental milestones.

Looking forward to hearing all about it. It will be fun to match up with this post.

And there will be NOBODY in these places in UK, Mexico, Ojai or anywhere else….

But that’s the scientology way.

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Filed Under: Narconon Tagged With: Narconon, Tony Ortega

Comments

  1. threefeetback says

    September 15, 2015 at 11:36 pm

    Dave,

    To begin with, you created a flap with the Ventura County Health Department by refusing to get a permit for Narconon Ojai, under your pen name, “Karin Pauw”. And now Vicki incriminates you for the courts. This is not going well.

    Just a bit more info for your IAS bloviating. Tomorrow you are being upstaged by the debate to shake up the government that continues to look the other way every time your name is mentioned.

    First, the cafeteria at the Ronald Reagan Library offers a much better distant ocean sunset than the old Hagman place.

    Second, only the ‘creme de la creme’ get seats. General seating capacity is 500, so out of the 50,000 (yes, 50,000) requests for seats only the upper crust got seats.

    Third, somehow the press is going to divvy up the balcony: 800 general news press plus 400 CNN press (sponsor of the debate).

    BTW, have you seen the footage of the flash floods that took out Warren Jeffs’ old home base of Hildale on the Utah-Arizona boarder? This is what is currently predicted for your home base on the fringe of Hemet, as the record breaking El Nino begins to take hold this fall and winter. I’ve heard that OSD may be giving aerial tours of the aftermath from the new elite Goodyear fleet of blimps.

    Reply
    • threefeetback says

      September 16, 2015 at 12:36 am

      Yeah, Dave, the Reagan Library is in Ventura County.

      Reply
    • Lawrence says

      September 16, 2015 at 9:07 am

      Madonna does not require Narconon services. Carly Simon was introduced and never signed up. Priscilla Presley could not get her husband Elvis Presley to go there but she was very able to collect his estate’s money for her own services + plastic surgery that makes her look like a freak. She resembles Joan Rivers’ sister. Jennifer Lopez does not want to be involved with Scientology, neither does Meryl Streep or Grace Slick or any of the Rolling Stones. So what other celebrities are there? 🙂 My prediction – another epic FAIL for the Church of Scientology as usual. This is the church’s most prominent ability. Overt postulates. 🙂

      Reply
  2. The Oracle says

    September 15, 2015 at 6:42 pm

    The event is for OL’s celebs and VIPs ONLY. Sea Org Staff not allowed, auditors not allowed, Org staff not allowed. Scientologists not allowed. Only Miscavige’s tea club. Only the self important and narcissistic need apply. We want big shots, the masters of industry, pirates and bums! Not sure who is receiving this email, so this does not mean you are actually invited. It is, and is not, could, and could not be, an actual invitation. I am scratching the Earth to dig up 200 of you potential guests. Are you important enough to be there? Did you asses the list above? Are you one of the above?

    An Opinion Leader?
    A celebrity?
    A VERY upstat?
    An “OT” Committee member?

    Please asses this list yourself and if one of these is an item on the list, you could be a potential guest! If not, please delete this email.

    This is a two fold message. This message should alert you right now, this center is ONLY for the rich and famous. That means if you got this message and you are just an ordinary Scientologist, do NOT be bringing your funky assed drug addicted kids up on the door step over there. get it? Spread the word.

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    • Ann B Watson says

      September 15, 2015 at 7:09 pm

      Hi The Oracle, Thank you for your post.I think your name regarding your post is exactly what you are,.In this instance you are showing the truth.Love U Ann.

      Reply
    • Aquamarine says

      September 15, 2015 at 7:52 pm

      “…your funky assed drug addicted kids…” Funny, Oracle.

      Reply
  3. statpush says

    September 15, 2015 at 5:34 pm

    There has been a lot of comments on this article about the veracity of Scn’s claims, etc.

    Stable datum #1

    With anything related to Scientology – Nothing is what it seems.

    So…

    Salvaging beings from the ravages of drugs => converting damaged individuals to Scientology.
    Join the SO and help clear the planet => willingly be a slave in a paramilitary organization earning pennies per hour.
    Achieve total spiritual freedom going up the Bridge => pay 100s of thousands to learn how to exorcise invisible dead beings and end up pretty much the same, but a whole lot poorer.
    Helping young people and ending illiteracy => converting young, naive individuals to Scientology
    Truly reforming criminals and turning them into productive citizens => converting desperate individuals to Scientology
    Help salvage your area by putting an Ideal Org there => give us a newly renovated historic building for free

    This shit goes on and on and on.

    There ALWAYS is a hidden motive. The hidden motive is unacceptable to the public so it has to be disguised as something else, something more palatable, but nevertheless A LIE.

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    • Ann B Watson says

      September 15, 2015 at 7:13 pm

      Hi statpush,You are burning with your post.Thank you really good.Love Ann.

      Reply
  4. Rusty says

    September 15, 2015 at 5:03 pm

    The email could be useful for Ryan Hamilton and the other lawyers pursuing Narconon. The signature line is particularly telling.

    Reply
  5. Ann B Watson says

    September 15, 2015 at 3:12 pm

    Hi Mike,Reading about NarCONon sparked a memory.As letter reg ASHO F,I was not to answer or write to
    NarCONon,.Criminon ,I do not think that was around then,but the other group that put snakes in mail boxes in the 70s,or to any one in prison.That was fine with me as I had plenty to keep me busy.Interesting in light of today’s post.Always Ann.

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  6. Robert Almblad says

    September 15, 2015 at 2:37 pm

    If you Google “Narconon Wiki”, it says nothing positive about Narconon. But it does say:

    “…. Narconon has been described by many government reports and former patients as a Church of Scientology front group.”

    and

    “…. Narconon’s claimed 75% to 80% success rate has been refuted by both drug experts and former employees”

    and

    “Narconon’s facilities have been the location of several deaths, some of which have been linked to a lack of trained medical personnel on site.”

    The “bait and switch” tactics to get NEW public into Scientology at every level of the Co$ is like a screen door boat trying to stay afloat in raging waters… Without a few whales and some pathetic love bombed celebs, Miscavige would be so sunk, it is unbelievable.

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  7. Chee Chalker says

    September 15, 2015 at 1:37 pm

    “…….this Narconon will cater to the elite and celebrities……”
    Because, you know, that is what a church should be doing….

    Reply
    • Ann B Watson says

      September 15, 2015 at 2:47 pm

      Hi Chee Chalker, Thank you.Hit that nail re: cos perfectly! Always Ann.

      Reply
  8. I Yawnalot says

    September 15, 2015 at 1:30 pm

    I read the words “what Scientologists all think… ”
    I’m trying to wrap my head around that and picture a “thinking scientologist.”
    It made me feel a little ill but it will go down as one of the wonders of modern life, the mental capacity of a card carrying scientologist. Right up with there with Monica Lewinsky’s oral hygiene.
    If it wasn’t for the legal education of miscavige’s lawyers, and let’s face it none of them are scientologists nor would ever aspire to be one, ( miscavige would never trust a lawyer who believed in or practiced the tek and it would have to be a prerequisite of being a lawyer for the church – no participation in any mental conditioning, and specifically scientology), the whole shooting match would have been over decades ago.
    And they talk about the blind leading the blind, scientology would have to be best client a lawyer could ever dream about having, miscavige is like Santa Claus to the legal and surveillance professions.
    ‘Suits’ hasn’t got thing on the real life drama of a day in the life of a scientologist’s lawyer – make a great mini series hey?

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    • Mike Rinder says

      September 15, 2015 at 2:17 pm

      Should more accurately have said “what scientologists believe.”

      Reply
  9. Todd Cray says

    September 15, 2015 at 1:23 pm

    Frankly, I am amazed that they managed to fly under the radar on this one. Ojay is a very nice, upscale community. I would have expected a publicly conducted permitting process with some push-back. I can’t imagine this type of town accepting this without a fight!

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    • Ann B Watson says

      September 15, 2015 at 2:59 pm

      Hi Todd Cray, I have seen pictures of Ojai,but have not had the pleasure of seeing it myself.I wonder how and what the town is really feeling about NarCONon ( thanks OSD great name) too. Actually someone in Baton Rouge where all religion is considered untouchable,filed a lawsuit against the little cos operation here.of NarCONon.Apparently the parents paid $45,000 to send their son there for drug rehab and after one years he was still doing word-clearing for Student Hat.His drug situation was never addressed.I guess David figures the celebs and big money whales will be so thrilled to mingle ai Ojai,they will never notice the fleecing they will get…forever if they aren’t careful.Love,Ann.

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  10. barbaramaritza says

    September 15, 2015 at 12:27 pm

    Wouldn’t it be awesome if while Captain Miscavige is speaking about Narconon the videos behind him displayed all the lawsuits against them?!?!??!

    Reply
    • Henry James says

      September 15, 2015 at 11:22 pm

      Barbara, it really makes me wonder, what the audio/visual guy’s price would be. I mean for a few dollars you could get your wish. I just bet the A/V guy isn’t bonded, so what does he care? All interested parties should post their respective prices here. Henry

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  11. Scn911 says

    September 15, 2015 at 12:24 pm

    “There will be a guest list of course.” … comprised of whoever shows up.

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  12. Aquamarine says

    September 15, 2015 at 12:02 pm

    Spot on, Graham.

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  13. Aquamarine says

    September 15, 2015 at 11:58 am

    Mike, aside from what you underlined in red, there’s, “So you can imagine that the global impact for Scientology CANNOT be over stated – especially with today’s drug scene.” As Zemoo phrased it, here’s proof of Co$’s iron link to Narconon, on a silver platter. Of course the cherch will deny it vociferously and claim that this Vicki person at CLO WUS was completely mistaken and actually knows nothing, has never known anything and will never know anything, and to prove it she’ll be removed from her post and transferred somewhere else.

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    • statpush says

      September 15, 2015 at 1:32 pm

      I think Jeffrey Augustine highlighted the int management policy that Scn is not responsible for anything their staff say or promise. They can simply claim Ms. Shantz was mistaken and has since been disciplined.

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      • Mike Rinder says

        September 15, 2015 at 2:19 pm

        They can, and they do. But sooner or later the evidence becomes too overwhelming to continue to ignore

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      • John Locke says

        September 15, 2015 at 3:02 pm

        statpush, that has a limited ability to shield. Judges will look at frequency and what the staff member’s position is. In this case it is the Commanding Officer over the Church’s Western United States operations making a comment about an activity in her sphere of command … 😉

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  14. FOTF2012 says

    September 15, 2015 at 11:39 am

    As I’m sure others noticed, the notice has some of the usual blather (rock-solid subjective reality — that’s an oxymoron!) and typos (over stated instead of overstated) and terminatedly (they must have loaded their spell checkers with Ron Speak; don’t try it in Scrabble or any professional writing though!).

    But here are the parts I love best:
    — Terminatedly handling addiction? Yes, if you kill the patient through pseudoscience and malpractice, that will terminatedly handle any addiction — it works 100% of the time when applied standardly!
    — Sunset over the Pacific is perfect for the event, she sez. Yes, it is a more perfect metaphor than the M-phony-L writer meant. Sunset is a metaphor for endings, not beginnings. So perhaps Vicki recognized unconsciously that the sun is going down on Narconon and its equally toxic parent, Scientology. Hmm. Can you be subconsciously CI to COB, and if so do you have to be RPFed?

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    • The Dark Avenger says

      September 15, 2015 at 12:41 pm

      Sunset isn’t until a little after 7 PM, so that’s when the regging will begin. Good to know.

      Reply
      • RMycroft says

        September 15, 2015 at 1:19 pm

        The blood suckers only come out after sundown.

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        • Aquamarine says

          September 15, 2015 at 1:48 pm

          -with the vampires who emerge from their coffins when the moon rises…

          Reply
          • Ann B Watson says

            September 15, 2015 at 2:51 pm

            Hi Aquamarine, With Fangs no less,the better to take a huge Bite out of any bank,wallet trust fund,college fund etc they can scare up! Love, Ann.

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    • marie guerin says

      September 15, 2015 at 1:56 pm

      Yeah , “rock solid subjective reality” is priceless. A bit scary actually.

      Reply
      • Chee Chalker says

        September 15, 2015 at 4:45 pm

        I completely read over that! That is hilarious….’rock solid subjective reality’!
        That is just priceless….

        Reply
  15. OTD-OUTTHEDOOR says

    September 15, 2015 at 11:29 am

    Narconon would be a great topic of a documentary. Filmmakers out there?

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  16. roger gonnet says

    September 15, 2015 at 11:28 am

    who’s this Vicky there?

    Reply
    • Cece says

      September 15, 2015 at 12:53 pm

      Roger – That is the CO CLO for a very long time – since 1996 at least and 5 years b4 that likely – these years are still kinda fuzzy 🙂

      Reply
      • Aquamarine says

        September 15, 2015 at 2:00 pm

        But probably not for long, Per Hubbard, a head will have to go on a pike. Ah, to be that fly on the wall for the handling of this hilarious Hill 10!

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        • Cece says

          September 15, 2015 at 2:36 pm

          Wouldn’t that be great to get a leak with the results. I’m quite sure several SPs are busy this morning forwarding this to the Attorneys concerned. Thanks guys! 🙂

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  17. george says

    September 15, 2015 at 11:10 am

    It amazes me how people will show up at the ias event and listen to miscavige tell nothing but lies after lies. Seriously how stupid do u have to be. Ot powers should make u realize this is a scam

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    • Cece says

      September 15, 2015 at 1:15 pm

      George, you know most these persons can barely think for themselves if at all. In order to be a good S and true to the tech they ‘willingly’ have submitted to Ron’s thought and case plus believe in all his yarns. Originally they were not stupid but certainly you could say that now. For me the OT levels helped open my eyes to my own thoughts again. It’s all rigged any way your look at it. IMHO

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      • Ann B Watson says

        September 15, 2015 at 7:17 pm

        Hi Cece, I like your post. Yes those OT Levels open up a lot of eyes for those that have the guts to see. For others well,I feel for them ,but they remain blind.Love,Ann.

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    • Aquamarine says

      September 15, 2015 at 2:13 pm

      George, in answer to your question: Have you ever met people, not necessarily Scientologists, who WANT to be lied to? Who get the message across that the truth would just destroy them? Talk to some married people whose spouses’ cheating is common knowledge but who never leave. This is just one type of example. When someone doesn’t WANT the truth, when the truth is just too painful or inconvenient, any clumsy lie will do.

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    • Aquamarine says

      September 15, 2015 at 2:34 pm

      There’s also the fact that David Miscavige has been telling huge lies at Int Events for over 20 years. Think of it; he’s trapped himself terribly. Only the truth will free him from the trap he long ago made for himself, but his listeners have long expected big outrageous “good news” lies from him in exchange for their money or time or whatever, so if he got up there now – if some honest impulse actually won out in him and he got up in front of everyone and told the unvarnished truth about the real state of Scientology, he’d be, figuratively speaking, torn to pieces. It would certainly be good for him case wise, though, as by freeing himself with the truth he would also be freeing others with it. But I digress.

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  18. freespirit says

    September 15, 2015 at 11:04 am

    Narconon is “owned” by Scientology, period. It is controlled through ABLE and a Trustee system. All Board members sign undated resignations. The whole “ideal Narconon” thrust is a copy cat of Scn idle morgues. Whose idea was that? Didn’t DM toot his horn about creating “Narconon Ideal Orgs?” The materials are the same- save for different illustrations and changing a few words here and there- the Narconon program is the same as the “church’s program for setting up the case for drug handling. The only difference between them is that Narconon is not allowed to use the Drug RD itself which the church delivers. If anyone from Narconon wants to be assured a “complete drug handling” that person HAS to go to Scn org for services or to a field auditor. Narconon is not allowed to deliver DRDs. Therefore even by Scn’s own technical standards Narconon is an incomplete drug handling program, not to mention it’s woeful inadequacy in the drug treatment field. I see no talk of this problem being addressed in the repackaging if the Narconons as “ideal Narconons”. But now they have pretty buildings. Yes, pretty buildings will handle the massive gripping vice of your drug addiction that rips apart your life and the lives of those closest to you., your dreams, family, job, financial base…. Yes, pretty buildings will set you free….

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    • Frank says

      September 15, 2015 at 1:25 pm

      free spirit, this is a great point! Vicki is stating they will “terminatedly” handle addition, when she knows full well that what they deliver at narconon is only a small part of the supposed “full drug handling” as promised by the church.

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      • Frank says

        September 15, 2015 at 2:33 pm

        That should read as “addiction”, not addition. oops. 🙂

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        • Ann B Watson says

          September 15, 2015 at 7:21 pm

          Hi Free Spirit, Good to meet you. ” Pretty buildings will set you free” … You got it . So upside down. One of the first statements from Ron I heard right after joining SO was “The Truth will set you free” Ron.Except that was a whopper of a lie.Always Ann.

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          • Aquamarine says

            September 15, 2015 at 8:11 pm

            If that were true I should have gone Clear at Notre Dame Cathedral 30 years ago. What a rip-off.

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            • Ann B Watson says

              September 16, 2015 at 8:57 am

              Hi Aquamarine, You said it! A huge rip-off and lies.I should have gone clear when I walked into the center of Stonehenge years ago along with your take on Notre Dame.Always Ann.

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  19. John Locke says

    September 15, 2015 at 11:01 am

    I can see it now. DM wakes up, pours hisself a strong one and opens Mike’s blog. Spits out a mouthful of perfectly good single malt and curses Mike for it. Screams into his intercomm and orders a minion to come front and center. “What the fuck is the CO CLO WUS doing?! She is sending out an email about the Narc center in Ojai without my permission! Why the FUCK do I have to find out about this on my own!!??? Why aren’t you fu7cking watching what the FUCK she is doing?!!! …”

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  20. Frank says

    September 15, 2015 at 10:59 am

    So, will Vicki get hauled into ethics for this? She just handed over evidence to the enemy about the narconon/scientology connection.
    If the church is going to tell lies, they need to at least brief the CLO and other execs on the story. But, that might entail them being made aware of the “entheta” on the internet, so no, they can’t do that! I do wonder if she will receive any punishment for letting that bit of truth slip out.

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    • The Dark Avenger says

      September 15, 2015 at 12:50 pm

      Reminds me of this:

      Kinsley gaffe

      A Kinsley gaffe occurs when a political gaffe reveals some truth that a politician did not intend to admit.[7][8] The term comes from journalist Michael Kinsley, who said, “A gaffe is when a politician tells the truth – some obvious truth he isn’t supposed

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  21. Old Surfer Dude says

    September 15, 2015 at 10:46 am

    So…let me see if I’ve got this right. They’re going to open a very lavish NarCONon in Ojai. Nice place. Beautiful views. All for higher end clients. And they’re all going to be introduced to the “tech.” Jesus, what shitty thing to do to someone! I wonder what the city of Ojai thinks about this. The presence of scientologists will ruin the beautiful views…

    Oh! And I’m betting she doesn’t come close to 200 attendees. Maybe 50. Or am I just being negative?

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  22. zemooo says

    September 15, 2015 at 10:41 am

    ‘Vicki’ just handed every lawyer suing NarCONon a win. She proves the ‘religious’ nature of Narc and its control by $cientology. Fraud has just been proven.

    The boutique rehab market is already full in California. Are there enough well heeled clams to fill this ‘rehab’? I don’t think so. The Ojai facility is just another place to hide NarCONon staff that might be subpoenaed to testify at any lawsuit. Though the Mexican locations are much safer for hiding potential witnesses.

    This ‘Ideal NarCONon’ also pretends to check off that IRS form alleging ‘social betterment’. Hmmm, ‘social betterment’, a place to hide potential witnesses, new places to really hammer the ‘tech’ (actually a form of brain washing) into second or third generation clams. Yeah, that is $cientology today, never what it advertises, but it does fulfill the Miscavage mindset.

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  23. RMycroft says

    September 15, 2015 at 10:23 am

    “Absolutely a once in a lifetime event!” should be part of a Scientology drinking game — but not more than a slip unless you want to be on the floor in a hurry.

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    • Ann B Watson says

      September 15, 2015 at 12:00 pm

      Hi RMycroft, I love this post,had me laughing,thank you.Always Ann B.

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  24. wheresshelley says

    September 15, 2015 at 10:17 am

    It will “cater to the world’s elite and celebrities.”

    Umm, I think the Emmy’s threw another wrench into that plan. The only “elite” and celebrities going there now will be Scientologists.

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  25. Martin Padfield says

    September 15, 2015 at 10:11 am

    Great catch Mike – and of course not a typo or slip of the keyboard, this from the hallowed pen of the CO CLO WUS no less. So Narconon tech is “our” tech. Case closed.

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  26. basketballjane says

    September 15, 2015 at 10:08 am

    Fuck fuck fuck!!! Why didn’t anyone tell me that was happening this Sunday. I am 20 minutes away! I would have LOVED to show up to introduce the Celebrities to the tech!

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    • Cece says

      September 15, 2015 at 1:58 pm

      🙂

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    • McCarran says

      September 15, 2015 at 3:08 pm

      🙂 I think you and people like you, bbj, are the very reason the church keeps things like this a secret as much as possible. But the church is cutting off its own oxygen, too, so….

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  27. RogerHornaday says

    September 15, 2015 at 10:04 am

    This, “once in a lifetime event” has come and gone now and the grim reality continues to stand as housekeeping vacuums up the party favors, that the Narconon facility is going to need PAYING clients. And those clients aren’t looking for “I’m now at cause over my emotional tone scale” wins. They’re looking for tangible results for a SERIOUS problem. When someone you love has a drug problem you aren’t going to fuck around when choosing a mode of therapy. This is life and death. NOBODY, especially the rich “up-stats” are going to choose Narconon. Between the internet, family members, friends and helpful strangers, the truth about Narconon will easily prevail.

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  28. McCarran says

    September 15, 2015 at 10:00 am

    Well, I’m glad David Miscavige has finally figured out a way to deliver to the most ABLE of people suffering from drug or alcohol addiction. He won’t have to deal with the rif raf DB’s who are addicted to drugs and alcohol. Pretty soon all Naconons will be Ideal and only for the Able.

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    • Aquamarine says

      September 15, 2015 at 8:25 pm

      The Able Addicts! Only the most upstat substance abusers. LOL!

      Reply
  29. Doug Owen says

    September 15, 2015 at 9:43 am

    I’m not sure what a “rock-solid subjective reality” is. I suspect Vicki has an MU on ‘subjective’ vs ‘objective’ but then again, it could be an admission that it’s all really the Matrix.

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    • Old Surfer Dude says

      September 15, 2015 at 10:49 am

      I knew it! I just knew it! It really is all about the Matrix! I’m glad I got something right this lifetime.

      Thanks, Doug!

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  30. Potpie says

    September 15, 2015 at 9:43 am

    What a great way to separate the wheat from the chaff. I think I will fly out there and attend the event….after all I am truly a legend in my own mind….I think. Anyway I will put on a nice suit, mix and mingle with the beautiful ones….avoiding Kirstie becuase she used to be so pretty but now she is not. When Miscavige starts yapping, I will position myself in the middle of the beautiful ones and fire up a joint. Hey maybe they will reg me to be their first guest.
    PS….I bet Larry Hagman is turning in his grave over this.

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    • Old Surfer Dude says

      September 15, 2015 at 10:52 am

      LIsten, Potpie, if you’re going to be there and fire one up, I’m going to be beside you. “Don’t bogart that joint, my friend, pass it over to me.” I’ll buy lunch. I’m sure we’ll both be very hungry. And…Ojai really is a nice little town. We can walk around with silly smiles on our faces.

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      • Potpie says

        September 15, 2015 at 11:49 am

        You buy lunch and I’ll give you a whole unsmoked joint….no bogarting allowed.
        And yes we stroll the streets of Ojai….high….with stupid grins on our faces….no one will
        know….they will think we are a couple of senile old farts.

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        • Potpie says

          September 15, 2015 at 11:51 am

          Wait maybe we are a couple of senile old farts?? I can’t remember.

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          • Ann B Watson says

            September 15, 2015 at 12:35 pm

            Hi Potpie,I’ll tag along with you and OSD in spirit.I’m a senile old fart that has been walking around with a silly smile since Going Clear Won.I’ll buy y’all lunch,my hubby and OSD will jump at that offer! Love Ann.

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            • Old Surfer Dude says

              September 15, 2015 at 7:33 pm

              Wait…what? Did you say you’d be buying lunch, Ann B? Hmmmmm….how to respond. Well, it would have been better if you had paid me to eat the food you bought me. However, I’ll acquiesce to your offer of food.

              Hey, I’m Scottish. It doesn’t get any cheaper than us…

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              • Ann B Watson says

                September 16, 2015 at 9:10 am

                Hi OSD,Speaking of free lunches,because it is you I’ll buy lunch and pay you and hubby to eat! You know Walter loves free anything.Scottish you both will always be and actuallymI would not have it any other way.XO Ann.

          • Old Surfer Dude says

            September 15, 2015 at 7:27 pm

            Yeah…ya see Potpie, we are a couple of old farts. Senility is only a couple of months away. So, yeah, we’d be walking around with a nice buzz enjoying the countryside and the herbs you brought with you. What a nice day!

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    • John Locke says

      September 15, 2015 at 11:58 am

      Potpie, Hagman would have run them all down on his Hog.

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    • RogerHornaday says

      September 15, 2015 at 12:06 pm

      I’m insinuating myself into your ‘light one up’ fantasy and I’m putting on some good kick-ass music. Will Kirstie quietly leave or mount an inarticulate yet savage verbal attack? Doesn’t matter, it’s all good!

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      • Ann B Watson says

        September 15, 2015 at 12:39 pm

        Hi Roger Hornaday, Me too,may I insert myself into “the light one up fantasy?” If my cancers come roaring back one day and I have to have chemo perish the thought !, why it will be like my long ago college years regarding a joint.But for now I’ll take a fantasy contact high. Love your kick ass music! Love U,Ann.

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        • RogerHornaday says

          September 15, 2015 at 2:36 pm

          Hi Ann, great party huh? I’m playing all your favorites. There’s Kirstie over there glaring at us, she disapproves. 🙂

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          • Ann B Watson says

            September 15, 2015 at 4:10 pm

            Hi Roger Hornaday, A great party that is so much fun with your music choices.That Kristy can glare for a billion years and it won’t stop us.I’m trying to word this as politely as I can so there is no slander,but in my third and then fourth year in SO I think was when she came to H’Wood to seek fame and fortune.I never had to write her (whew) but the SO gossip line said she and her friend were doing some mighty fast walking down the Blvd! Love, Ann.

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      • T.J. says

        September 15, 2015 at 1:58 pm

        Hi Roger and Ann B. I’m loving reading your fantasys – the line about Kirstie Alley made me laugh! 🙂 I hope y’all are having a great day. – T.J.

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        • Ann B Watson says

          September 15, 2015 at 2:48 pm

          Hi T.J., Thank you angel.It is a great day because I read your post! Love, Ann.

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        • RogerHornaday says

          September 15, 2015 at 2:57 pm

          Hi T.J. take your shoes off and chill, we’re in Oh-High now!

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  31. Sunny says

    September 15, 2015 at 9:37 am

    Wow. I am confused. I thought they handled the drug problem back in 2006 with the drug free marshal program.

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    • Old Surfer Dude says

      September 15, 2015 at 10:54 am

      Wait……what? They didn’t??? You could knock me over with a feather….

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  32. hgc10 says

    September 15, 2015 at 9:34 am

    Subjective reality! Rock-solid, no less! Your SoLIPsism of showing.

    The global impact of this one center CANNOT be over stated? Want to bet? Because I there it went right there. Here’s the problem — for the most part, the world’s elite are not drug addicts. That goes for Hubbard too.

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    • John Locke says

      September 15, 2015 at 12:19 pm

      Correct hgc10. Being a heavy drug user is NOT equal to being an “addict”.

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      • hgc10 says

        September 15, 2015 at 5:05 pm

        OK, true. But that’s not exactly what I was getting at. What I mean that is that no drug rehab facility is going gather the world’s elite, because the elite got the be that way because they’re not drug addicts (among other reasons). Now, you could argue that Betty Ford has seen its share of elites and that many elites are indeed high-functioning alcoholics, but let’s face it — elites gather at Davos and the IAU General Assembly and Donald Trump’s weddings and the like. Not so much at Betty Ford or Cliffside Malibu or the Pasadena Recovery Center or not even Ideal Narconon Ojai.

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        • John Locke says

          September 15, 2015 at 6:57 pm

          hgc10, I cannot imagine that anyone thinks otherwise (excepting clams).

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      • Aquamarine says

        September 15, 2015 at 8:34 pm

        Off topic question, and Mike you can delete it if you think it best, but JL, if someone isn’t addicted to a drug then why would they use a it heavily? (I’m talking about a street drug like heroin or cocaine, etc) In other words, what would someone get out of using a drug heavily if there was no compulsion, no craving that had to be satisfied?

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        • John Locke says

          September 16, 2015 at 10:30 am

          Aquamarine, addicted means that they cannot really stop taking the drugs, at will. LRH took heavy drugs on and off throughout his life. By all accounts he could and did, stop at will. I’ve known others who did the same.

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  33. chrismann9 says

    September 15, 2015 at 9:22 am

    I wondered why people still in don’t remember past Miscavige events. How many times has the biggest, most amazing thing happened and you never hear about it again. There have been so many announcements like this and no follow up, I assume because they are all total failures. In the coming months and years will we hear about all the people completing the program at this Narconon? Will there be stats?

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    • John Locke says

      September 15, 2015 at 12:21 pm

      chrismann9, for the same reason(s) that they don’t remember what El Con said about the abilities of Clears & OTs when THEY go “clear” or “OT”. Scn’ers are brainwashed.

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  34. Graham says

    September 15, 2015 at 9:17 am

    Referring to it as a “center for spiritual freedom” also reinforces the fact that it’s a ‘religious’ initiative and not a secular drugs re-hab.

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