I recommend everyone watch The Vow — both seasons — on HBO. It documents the horrors of Keith Raniere and his NXIVM cult. Mark, and his wife Bonnie Piesse, play a significant role in bringing down Raniere, who is now serving 120 years in Federal prison. Christie and I have become friends with Mark and Bonnie (and also with the other most prominent whistleblowers who exposed Raniere’s cult — Sarah Edmondson and Nippy Ames). These friendships are based on a foundation of deep understanding forged by shared similar experiences. They are good, strong, brave people who put their personal comfort aside to expose terrible abuses to the world.
I was honored to be the first guest on Mark’s podcast and like so many of our private conversations, it was stimulating, revealing and cathartic. I hope you take the time to listen to this one, I think it is one of the best I have done.