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Do You Swear to Tell the Truth, the Whole Truth and Nothing But the Truth?

November 25, 2018 By Mike Rinder 55 Comments

Terra is back once again…

Do You Swear to Tell the Truth, the Whole Truth and Nothing But the Truth?

Scientology has a reputation of attacking anyone they perceive as a threat. They bully. They coerce. They intimidate. Hire private investigators. Apply pressure. And last but not least, they threaten legal action via a cadre of soulless lawyers.

That said, when is the last time the church actually sued someone? And won? Not this century, anyway.

Appearing in Court? Oh, No!

The problem for Scientology with regards to lawsuits is the potential of having to appear in court and back up their miraculous claims. Which is something L. Ron Hubbard could not do on his best days. Because as everyone reading this blog knows, nobody has ever demonstrated going full-exterior or made that damned ashtray rise off a chair without using their hands.

The last thing Scientology wants is to try convincing a judge and jury that The Hole never existed; David Miscavige has never lifted a hand in anger; the church doesn’t promise astonishing abilities and immortality; they don’t promote a policy of disconnection and split up families; or that they pay their staff a livable wage—plus overtime for working more than forty hours per week.

The very, very last thing Scientology wants is to have to cough up all their financial records in a federal court. Having their tax-exempt status revoked would be a major blow. Surrendering billions of dollars to Uncle Sam and the European Union would be cataclysmic.

The Church of Scientology is scared shitless of having to appear in a court of law. Which is why they inevitably settle their cases before a jury is ever picked. The church’s formula is to stall the proceedings by introducing one motion after another in the hope that their accusers will run out of time, energy, and money and drop their lawsuits. If plaintiffs hang tough, Scientology bribes them with buckets of money and settles out of court.

Restless Nights

David Miscavige is terrified to take the stand. Being grilled by a halfway competent attorney is a recurring nightmare. There’s no defense for decades of lies, child abuse, and forced abortions. There’s no defense for all the harm he’s caused over the years.

Picture DM sitting in a witness box while prosecutors question him on why his church has declared so many people “suppressive.” Imagine him being asked to reveal the location of his wife, Shelley. Imagine sheriffs descending on the church’s Lake Arrowhead compound with subsequent subpoenas. Imagine those same sheriffs coasting down the hill to Int Base with ones for Heber, Ray, and Guillaume. And all the other high ranking executives rumored to be held captive in The Hole.

Imagine DM having to defend the effectiveness of the Purification and Survival rundowns. Imagine an attorney asking him to prove the state of Clear exists as written in DMSMH. Imagine DM being asked about Xenu, the Marcab Confederacy, and Body Thetans. Imagine a reporter in the room recording everything.

And once again, imagine DM being ordered to turn over all of the church’s financial records. Imagine the man actually telling the truth, the full truth, and nothing but the truth. Yikes!

Scientology and David Miscavige cannot afford to go to court. A rookie lawyer would eviscerate them. Gut them to the core. Destroy them. Expose the whole, fetid truth to the world. The press would have a field day!

Mike, Tony, and Leah, Oh MY!

If the Church of Scientology was confident of winning in court, wouldn’t they have sued Mike Rinder by now? Wouldn’t he be constantly embroiled in litigation? Wouldn’t Tony Ortega be buried under an avalanche of lawsuits? Wouldn’t Leah Remini be spending half her time in a courtroom in downtown LA? Wouldn’t Scientology have sued Google, Facebook, and A&E for allowing anti-Scientology rhetoric onto their sites? Wouldn’t YouTube have put the kibosh on Chris Shelton, by now? Despite all their daily posts, the church is not suing any of them.

Imagine Mike or Tony in court. Taking the stand. Coats, ties, polished shoes. Neatly combed hair. Picture boxes and boxes of damning Scientology evidence stacked against the far wall. Scores of boxes. Hundreds. Visualize a gallery full of witnesses eager to take the stand. Itching to tell the public about their years of abuse at the hands of the church. Yearning to reveal the truth and warn those still sitting on the fence. Salivating to strike a blow at those who’d deceived them and stolen their money. Scientology would be overwhelmed and devastated.

DM would have to pull an LRH and go into hiding. I’d be surprised if the man doesn’t have a half dozen secret bunkers scattered across the globe.

Last Words

David Miscavige and Scientology cannot risk having their dirty laundry uncovered in front of a rapt public. Defending themselves in court before an impartial judge and jury would be the horror story of all horror stories for Scientology. With each motion they filed, with each delay tactic they utilized, the greater their exposure to an enthralled world.

Neither the organization nor its leader would withstand a trial by jury. The negative PR would be catastrophic and Scientology would lose. Big time.

Still not Declared,

Terra Cognita

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Comments

  1. Aquamarine says

    November 26, 2018 at 10:51 pm

    Outstanding article, Terra!

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  2. ittybitsdc says

    November 26, 2018 at 12:30 pm

    Three words: class action lawsuit.

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  3. Richard says

    November 26, 2018 at 9:19 am

    I might question whether something called “Scientology” still exists. I left around 1982 and at that time I had no problem with the subject itself, only with the price increases which I thought were greedy and unjustified. If I had stepped into a time machine back then and re-emerged in 2018 I might need convincing it’s the same subject. They still do introspective counselling with an e-meter, call it talk therapy if you want to, and I guess it still provides benefits to people. Defending or attacking “Scientology” might need to be time qualified to make sure you’re talking about the same subject.

    I don’t know if the CoS publishes a current Classification and Gradation Chart. It didn’t change much in the 1970’s until Natural Clear and Dianetic Clear was announced around 1980. It’s not in my future, but if I decided to become a public figure I’d need to do a lotta splaining to prove I wasn’t a sucker and a fool back then or now!

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    • Mark Foster says

      November 26, 2018 at 11:15 am

      It’s the same subject, the one built on lies, purloined and bastardized concepts, pseudo-science and the ravings of a malignant narcissist. All of the policies and directives that drove the cult’s criminality, fraud, and other abuses were extant then, as they are now.
      That you ” didn’t have a problem with the subject then” is a statement about your perception of the subject then. ” Study tech ” was and is indoctrination. Auditing and training were and are nonconsensual hypnosis and indoctrination. There were never such things as engrams and secondaries…or a reactive mind…and they still don’t exist. A modified wheatstone bridge ( e-meter ) measures galvanic skin response-poorly-and does not ” read ” emotions or register traumas ” on the time track ” or “indicate ” a non-existent state of ” clear ” or ” operating thetan “. It’s the same set of lies, enforced and doubled-down on in a closed, highly controlled, dysfunctional social bubble.
      I say this more for those readers who might still be in that bubble, but dare to question what is going on in it…
      For you, Richard, I sincerely hope that you, long ago,let go of the idea that scientology has validity or usefulness or is beneficial. I say that because the available empirical evidence, collected over 6 decades, decisively and conclusively proves it.

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      • Ann Davis says

        November 26, 2018 at 2:11 pm

        So perfectly and clearly said Mark. Great comment. I hope those still in read this.

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  4. jburtis2013 says

    November 26, 2018 at 12:00 am

    Fantastic blog as always. The COB should install shock absorbers on all of his furniture, even the pieces in the bunkers. With every week of the ongoing drip drip drip of the truth, Herr Miscavige’s tremors increase. They couldn’t happen to a nicer guy.

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  5. Geoff Levin says

    November 25, 2018 at 7:52 pm

    TC great article. It’s now a demonstrable fact that court cases are like poison gas to Scientology and Miscavige. They have turned into paper tigers. Thanks to all who have gone before who have braved the legal dragons of the cult. They deserve peace and prosperity for braving the litigation from Hubbard’s toxic organization.

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    • Aquamarine says

      November 26, 2018 at 11:34 pm

      “Paper tigers.” Yes, its funny how the world’s richest and at the same time most litigious cult is so hamstrung now. All that money! All those expensive attorneys! Sitting around, billing the cult by the hour, bored out their minds, just itching to be able to do their thing t for a change, listening to Miscavige rant and rave and abuse them and completely unable to stand up and actually do their jobs. Its kind of funny when you think about it.

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  6. Golden-Era Parachute says

    November 25, 2018 at 4:31 pm

    I’m sure that his backup plan. Pull the trademarks and copyrights to CST, then have a notary public stamp the directors letter of resignation to take their place. Go into literal hiding in a real hole thus bringing a whole new meaning to the phrase Underground Bunker.

    I like this whole speculation thing. It’s kind of like hindsight, but with a bit of creative processing thrown on top. It’s kind of like a transfusion with horome enrichment and stem cells thrown in for good measure, or a energy drink with caffeine, taurine, and b12 mixed in, or even cleaning an engine with jet fuel and a nitro boost. Maybe not, but it’s Sunday so you gotta have fun.

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  7. jim says

    November 25, 2018 at 3:55 pm

    Very accurate Terra (IMO),

    The truth revealed, as -vs- “Truth Revealed” ™, would act as bleach on the cult and leave nothing but white bones. You are correct in the assertion that a open court lawsuit would rip them open and fatally so. Even DM has to see this, and so they hunker down and use vias and fronts. Karma is coming.

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  8. Deb says

    November 25, 2018 at 3:50 pm

    I would love to see someone on the stand being asked about Hubbard’s ” Duke Of Chug” and the “Chug
    Advices. “

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  9. I Yawnalot says

    November 25, 2018 at 3:29 pm

    Very good Terra. I had a chuckle to myself when I thought of Marty Rathbun being called to the stand under oath and ordered to “explain his motives.”
    Some bs in this world really stinks, for, as I see it what the Cof$ is doing for their defense is exactly what they are doing. It’s difficult for a sane mind to compute the utter contempt the Cof$ displays for the US Constitution, the law and common decency. They have ridden a wave of deception, ensured and protected by ‘soulless lawyers’ as you called them and continue to scurry among the shadows with a ‘catch me if you can’ arrogance that has all the ruthlessness & mentality of a firing squad.
    It appears the demise of Scientology is just a court case away, it has been that way for a long time now, but that is where they live. But the heat is really on now, applied intensively by a remarkable bunch of good willed people. Personally, it’d be the best day of my life to see MIscavige & his cronies hauled off to jail and the whole Scientology house of cards blow off into the wind. My nervous anticipation I feel for my family getting back together again is intense, as I’m sure it is will all those with family& friends behind those Scientology gates.

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  10. Les Warren says

    November 25, 2018 at 2:11 pm

    $cientology has been tried and judged guilty of perjury in the court of public opinion.

    By their own actions they have rendered themselves completely untrustworthy because of their incessant lies.

    In their own words, “People who keep their word are trusted and admired. People who do not are regarded like garbage.” LRH

    They are utterly incapable of following the most basic principles of their own moral code.

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  11. John Doe says

    November 25, 2018 at 2:06 pm

    It is ironic that in the practice of scientology auditing as applied to an individual, much is written about how imperative it is to get every last detail of the poor guy’s misdeeds; indeed, that the proper attitude of the “Security Checker” is a swinish suspicion that the guy isn’t telling the auditor everything.

    Yet the guy at the top of scientology, David Miscavige, could not withstand the same degree of scrutiny directed his way. Or even 1/100th of the scrutiny required from a standard Sec Checker. And if you’re a staff member or a public scientologist, even a casual doubting question about Miscavige gets you declared these days.

    This is the guy responsible for Keeping Scientology Working. So how’s that working for you, scientologists?

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  12. chuckbeattyx75to03 says

    November 25, 2018 at 1:57 pm

    Nicely put.

    There used to be, and probably still exists, these psychological departments in some countries’ large intel organizations, who do psychological profiling of persons within “enemy” organizations, and these psych departments do profiles of the weaknesses and possibilities to getting the “enemy” leaders to defect.

    All the years I was in Scientology, due to my childhood growing up during the cold war, watching the movies of that time, “The Spy That Came In From the Cold” era, for real, my graduating year in 1970 was from the Munich American High School. My father’s final tour of US Army duty was at the 66th Military Intelligence unit there in Perlacher Forst Munich. My fellow high school graduates were obviously from the alphabet soup intel community parents and refugee parents who worked in and around Voice of America and Radio Free Europe.

    The smartest high schoolers I’ve ever met, my high school years I spent in 4 different High Schools (Pirmasens, Kaiserslautern, Delaware Ohio, then ending at Munich American High School).

    I’ve been a slow reader all my life, read about a book every two months, start many, finish 1/20th of those I start, and take years on the important books to finally finish them.

    With Scientology, the average participant is not a real reader. It takes years to wrap their wits around the full Hubbard corpus of writings, and few, meaning less than 1/2 of 1 percent have ever read all Hubbard wrote, and certainly none in the movement are literate enough and read fast enough, to really think it all through, while they are in staff positions.

    All the leaders ever in the Hole and who are still in the “Hole” category, which I presume that name isn’t used anymore, what I see is really, to be fair to this Scientology group overall, none are well read and understanding enough, barring one or two persons like Lynn Farney maybe, in OSA who read enough.

    I’d love someday a personnel breakdown of the top OSA people, the Scientology intel oversight and headquarters of their intel stuff, I’d like an intelligent personnel bio of all the major OSA people today.

    One or another of them, I have for a decade hoped would get out and write. Well they’d need to read a lot more than they have, and possibly get re-educated so they could write.

    But I’d love to read a biographical hindsight book or two or three from some ex OSA staffers, the ones who did all the “Handling Programs” writing and strategies to deal with the “enemies” of Scientology.

    Hubbard’s writings have a way more impactful influence on those in the various departments which keep up the whole bureaucracy of the movement going, despite the constant loss of personnel, and despite the ongoing ignorance of the highest smartest thinking members in the various key units of the bureaucracy.

    The truth gets written up, it gets spoken, in court or in books more fully, and I’m still a sucker for ex senior members of the movements’ stories in books.

    And discussion of possibly angles to the whole of the ongoing Scientology history, it’s always the “mules” (the people whose lives “carry the story” as Lawrence Wright once put it in one of his dozens of interviews during the “Going Clear….” book touring he did).

    We need some OSA mules, those ex OSA staffers who are literate enough in world ideas and history to do some book(s) on their OSA lives.

    The OSA part of Scientology that does the litigation backup work to lawyers who Miscavige orders to then do lawyerly attacks on the ongoing historical enemies of Scientology (almost one for one ex senior members, and Debbie Cook was the last, wasn’t she?), the OSA part of Scientology’s history I wish would be written up by some ex OSA staffers.

    In fact starting with a list of who they even are, would be helpful to get the conversation going as to how and when any of the ex OSA staff, and going back to the earlier Guardian’s Office staff, any of them who’ve moved on in life, and gotten literate enough to write their lives, which I think most could easily do, so it’s a matter of time and desire on their parts. Versus the backlash they predict would be thrown against them, the smear web sites, and covert ops that they as OSA staffers already know about.

    This whole Scientology do it yourself history telling project over the decades that seems to bubble up around this ongoing Scientology subject, I wish there’d be some ex Guardian’s Office and ex OSA staffers’ writing up their interesting memoirs.

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    • ctempster says

      November 25, 2018 at 6:09 pm

      So you want Ex OSA and ex GO staff who come out to write a book? You need someone literate who can tell the stories and expose the truth of the dealings of OSA? Mike Rinder fits all those bills. We’ve been asking him to write a book for years.

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      • Ann Davis says

        November 26, 2018 at 2:18 pm

        There’s no book I’d rather read!

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    • bixntram says

      November 26, 2018 at 12:01 am

      Good points about reading and literacy, Chuck. I’ve never seen any reference by any scientologist to any of the classics of the western canon. Not surprising when the head dictator is a highschool dropout. Can you imagine any of them reading Plato, or Aristotle, Marcus Aurelius, etc. etc.? movement.

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      • Mark Foster says

        November 26, 2018 at 5:33 pm

        Whaaaaat? A taste of cogent philosophical thought, a smattering of elegantly formulated logic, a hint of probing and poetic prose about the big questions in life…that might make one reflect and ponder and embrace uncertainty and engage in in interesting and even tumultuous conversations with people who disagree with you, in order to experience the joy of learning and the thrill of acquiring knowledge and wisdom for its own sake…for free? Nah, we don’t want the slaves to question their lot, sayeth the earth’s greatest ecclesiastical leader( on the whole track!): stay true to the path Hubbard ” taped out “, for you, cha ching! Don’t cloud your scientological mind with real art, science, philosophy, useful information, or education!

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      • Aquamarine says

        November 26, 2018 at 11:45 pm

        Scientology advocates literacy, insists upon literacy and says it has all the answers anyone will ever need to becoming literate. Ok, fine. But at the same time it carefully instructs their parishioners NOT to read just about everything not authored by the Church of Scientology or L Ron Hubbard. The possible exception might be “Fun With Dick And Jane.” 🙂

        To continue, they train you, purportedly, to think for yourself, and then carefully instruct you to NOT think but simply accept without question whatever they are told by David Miscavige.

        I could go on.

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  13. Wrytur man says

    November 25, 2018 at 1:32 pm

    “Imagine sheriffs descending on the church’s Lake Arrowhead compound with subsequent subpoenas”
    A mountain resident dreams:
    TWIN PEAKS, California (AP)-Early this morning, San Bernardino Sheriff’s officers served warrants on personnel at the Church of Scientology compund located on State Highway 189, near the town of Crestline. This operation was ordered pursuant to charges of kidnapping filed by the Los Angeles District Attorney against David Miscavage, Chairman of the Board of Scientology, regarding the whereabouts of his wife, Shelley Miscavage. Staff members were detained for questioning per the forthcoming issuance of a formal Subpoena for Appearance by David Miscavage regarding these charges.
    This scenario above plays in my mind every time I drive by our local Co$ gilded gulag…

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  14. rosemarietropf says

    November 25, 2018 at 1:20 pm

    I never thought about this before but it’s true ay? How could they defend all that? Just like that girl Laura DeCrescenzo. She hung in there and God bless her for that. 🙂

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  15. Tan says

    November 25, 2018 at 1:19 pm

    If SC sue anybody just ask for wittness David Miscavige or better Shelly Miscavige.

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  16. Lois Reisdorf says

    November 25, 2018 at 12:44 pm

    Great synopsis TC!! You are so great with words and describing this. No way can they sue anymore, all the devastating stuff will come out and they will lose…….hopefully they will lose anyway which is happening, I believe. Thanks to Leah & Mike and everyone else who is speaking out. The truth will win.

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  17. Peggy L says

    November 25, 2018 at 12:24 pm

    “Picture DM sitting in a witness box while prosecutors question him” etc.

    Well I will bet that some things will be leaving his body, and it won’t be his spirit.

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    • Aquamarine says

      November 26, 2018 at 10:49 pm

      @ Peggy – On the floor!

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  18. Lance Caldwell says

    November 25, 2018 at 12:20 pm

    When I showed up at the physic fair held in Portland, Oregon with the “Aftermath cards: We can help you get out of Scientology” I was approached by their “leader” who told me to “stay away from his people” as I was harassing them (because I was asking questions). If I did not comply he would “take me to court for religious freedom and hate charges.” My question is: If the cult ever took Anyone to court for asking questions or giving out cards telling about an organization that would help them after they left the cult, would that open up a can of worms that would bring the cult to court once and for all. What a lovely thought.

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  19. Ammo Alamo says

    November 25, 2018 at 11:58 am

    DM could hide in one of the secure underground bunkers full of the writings of LRH etched on steel or titanium plates. He would have plenty of reading material to help pass the time in his Morlockian existence.

    What a cruel punishment – forced to read Hubbard for the rest of his days.

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    • Ann Davis says

      November 25, 2018 at 12:41 pm

      I wonder if he would be happy? Lol . I wonder if he ever regrets his life choices?

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    • I Yawnalot says

      November 25, 2018 at 6:31 pm

      And a TV with only one channel – SMP!
      Wana bet TC & JT do an instantaneous Judas on him when he’s busted?

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      • Ann Davis says

        November 26, 2018 at 2:22 pm

        I can’t wait to find out!

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        • Aquamarine says

          November 27, 2018 at 12:03 am

          Miscavige in jail?

          No cruelty. No Bubba.

          I’d put him in Solitary and plaster his cell with photos of everyone who died, everyone he directly or indirectly caused to be hurt, everyone damaged he caused to experience mental, emotional and/or physical damage.

          No bland wall space., not even an inch. Hundreds (thousands?) of photos that somehow were put up there in such a way that they could not be defaced or destroyed or torn down.

          I’d make him look at al these photos 24/7.

          From 9 to 5, Monday – Friday I’d have “We Stand Tall” piped in. Over and over.

          On Saturday and Sunday 9-5 maybe that Queen song he’s fond of, the one he used for Musical Chairs. Over and over.

          I think a month of this would do the job, don’t you?

          All suggestions welcome 🙂

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    • Richard says

      November 26, 2018 at 10:33 am

      If cosmic, planetary or human caused mass extinction occurs, then millions of years from now newly emerging humanoids or visiting aliens might dig the writings up and be back on the “internet” debating what if anything works. You gotta look on the bright side of the continuum.

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  20. Robert Almblad says

    November 25, 2018 at 11:50 am

    ​As long as they don’t sue anyone (like they did to Debbie Cook), the cherch of Scientology and DM are pretty safe from lawsuits because they can spend countless $ millions abusing the legal system defending themselves. However, they ARE vulnerable if THEY sue anyone, as they learned with Debbie Cook.

    Everyday thousands of people correctly or incorrectly malign, defame, debunk and generally kick the living shit out of the cult of Scientology because they are an evil cult that has no socially redeeming qualities. This well deserved vilification is done with impunity on every possible forum: countless books, broadcast TV, Internet, Weblogs, street protests, billboards, etc… but zero lawsuits.

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    • bixntram says

      November 25, 2018 at 5:34 pm

      I still wish someone would be brave enough NOT to settle and haul them into court. Easy for me to say as a never-in, I suppose. Alternatively, having worked as a paralegal, I know that a lot of, maybe even most, civil suits go right down to the wire, set a trial date, and then settle at the last minute. If the cherch had to settle like this for some really exhorbitant fee, that would definitely send a message that they had something big to hide.

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    • ctempster says

      November 25, 2018 at 5:40 pm

      Good points, Robert A. I notice that even with the “gag order” that the church makes then agree to before paying out a large settlement to end the public exposure to their practices, that even that gag order can’t be enforced really. They tried with Debbie Cook, who signed a gag order and was give I think maybe $500 when she left the SO. But then she violated that order by speaking out, for which the church sued her. They found out pretty quick that her testimony in court under oath was super damaging to them and so they put an end to it quickly with a large settlement. So I think it would be safe for people like Vicki Aznaran and others to speak out since the church now knows it will get nowhere trying to defend the gag order in court. So please, Vicki and others who have been quiet due to gag orders, please speak out and tell what you know. It will help.

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  21. Rip Van Winkle says

    November 25, 2018 at 11:45 am

    I buy every book that comes out. Kindle and hardback, I buy them used from Amazon when they’re out of print. I have a secret stash of all of the books and I’m working my way through them.

    No longer can Scn squash the books…. can’t stop the internet….

    can’t stop the truth…..

    It’s a beautiful thing.

    My deepest deepest thanks to all who speak out and say things….like you, Terra!

    It’s wonderful to cut off those ugly evil legs of scn retribution and wrath.

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    • Single Mom says

      November 25, 2018 at 7:36 pm

      Scientology is a suppressive organization that harms people who get trapped into its fraudulent fold.

      Thank you Mike and Leah for exposing the truth about Scientology.

      Thank all of you who wrote books.

      I finally am out of doubt.

      I am out hiding UTR but I won’t get any worse because I know Scientology is a con scam.

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  22. Cat W. says

    November 25, 2018 at 11:35 am

    I just wish when people settled, they would hold on to their right to speak about it. I once informed a former health practitioner that not only had she wronged me, but that I had a solid case against her. She agreed to settle with me for a portion of the money I had paid her. A friend told me that I wouldn’t be able to discuss it afterward. She said that was standard. I had once signed an agreement just to get severance pay from a company that said we weren’t allowed to say anything negative about the company. Although I didn’t have any need to say anything about the company publicly, and the company went out of business not many years later, I always hated that feeling of having signed away my first amendment right to speak. I regretted doing it then, so I was not about to do it again. I bought a cheap kit from NOLO press, found a standard release (with no mention of my right to speak), signed it at a notary, and sent it to the health practitioner. She got it signed and notarized. Done. No forfeiture of my right to speak. I haven’t spoken publicly about her either, but it makes a difference to me whether I am legally allowed to.

    I don’t understand why more people who settle with Scientology don’t do the same. Scientology doesn’t settle until they have no other choice. They’ve definitely pulled every other stunt they can pull by then. So why sign something that gives them what they don’t deserve when they finally give in — your silence? It upsets me. Every time I even bring it up, I get scolded, as if I have something against people who sue Scientology and win. So not fair. I love people who stand up to Scientology, they’re my heroes. I just don’t want them to have to keep their mouths shut, and I don’t see why so many of them agree to that. If you won, then WIN, dammit. Don’t lose for the whole movement while you win money.

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    • Mike Rinder says

      November 25, 2018 at 5:26 pm

      The only way to accomplish that is to win in court. Not settle. If you can stick it out long enough, you can do it. The one who did is Larry Wollersheim. Never settled. But got his money. It took 20 years and by the time he got it there was little left for him.

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      • ctempster says

        November 25, 2018 at 5:44 pm

        I can’t believe I’m about to say this, but Larry Wollersheim is a hero! Yet I was among the many brain washed who marched at the courthouse in LA chanting, “Not one thin dime for Wallersheim.” Amazing how you feel when you find out all that you did was the wrong thing for the wrong reasons cuz you were brainwashed. Sorry Larry, but I see the light now and you deserve respect.

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      • Cat W. says

        November 26, 2018 at 11:16 am

        Thanks for responding, Mike. I don’t understand why, though. If I could get a standard release agreement that didn’t include silence and still get my money, why can’t people who settle with Scientology? Scientology doesn’t give in until it’s desperate to prevent a court case. So what is there to lose in saying, “I’ll settle, but only with this agreement, which does not include a gag order. Otherwise, we go to court.”? If Scientology is desperate to prevent DM from testifying (as they have been several times), then they would be likely to accept. Maybe they’d come back with a counter-offer including a gag order, but then what’s stopping people from making another counter-offer in which it’s clear that they will only settle if there’s no gag order? Scientology doesn’t settle when it has other options, only when it has none. That’s why I don’t get it. It’s like people have accepted that “settlement” means “gag order.” It doesn’t. I know for a fact that NOLO’s standard release doesn’t include a gag order, because I myself have used it to get the settlement I asked for. She, too, did not want to go to court (neither did I, frankly, but I was willing to if I had to). We didn’t have to go to court, and I got my money without a gag order.

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        • Mike Rinder says

          November 26, 2018 at 12:34 pm

          Nothing stops anyone from refusing to settle. It’s all in the timing. Often people who have engaged in years of litigation with scientology want nothing more to do with the subject ever. Some want to get on with their lives. Some want to take care of themselves or their families. Dealing with scientology is not liking dealing with anyone else. They have billions to burn. They don’t make decisions based on economics like most do. They will spend a million dollars to prevent someone from getting $1,000 if it’s something important to them.

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  23. believeorelse says

    November 25, 2018 at 11:31 am

    Love the article! LRH was convinced most of the world could not confront his “truth.” Apparently, truth was a universal solvent and washed everything away. Well, that wave washes both ways. I would love to see a report on what holds governments back from finding out the truth about this destructive cult.

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  24. Ms. B. Haven says

    November 25, 2018 at 10:59 am

    Terra, your post today is just silly.

    All the Church of Scientology would have to do is put FOOLproof on the witness stand and he would be living proof of the efficacy of the ‘tech’.

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    • Foolproof says

      November 25, 2018 at 8:24 pm

      Ironically enough Chief Lab Rat, your remark is true. Is this a first for you then? Stating the truth that is? Careful – next you will be saying that the E-Meter doesn’t work on skin sweat!

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      • Ms. B. Haven says

        November 26, 2018 at 9:07 am

        Hi Fool. I wouldn’t dare say a thing about how the e-meter works or doesn’t work. I’ve got so many MUs in the field of electronics that even a dozen intensives of M-1 word clearing couldn’t recover my education unless I were able to recall some past lives in the Ben Franklin era as he was toying with kites in lightning storms.

        I really wish that you would step in and assist this pathetic “church” with their credibility issues. You would certainly be a hero. A regular modern day Sonia Bianca. You could take center stage at the Shrine Auditorium just as she did all those years ago when the purity of DMSMH hadn’t been tainted by the drooling hoards of SPs that have since emerged in an attempt to quash mankind’s only hope for salvation, Dianetics. Just imagine how the world would be different as a result. For starters, 70% of man’s illness would be vanquished. I think you should heed the Founder’s call to “build a better bridge”. Time to step up and quit basking in the personal glories of OT and help your fellow man. Even back then there was a 3rd and 4th dynamic that needed attention and it certainly still does today.

        Let me know when tickets will go on sale so I can buy a couple of dozen and make a few extra quid scalping on the streets of Hollywood.

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        • Terra Cognita says

          November 26, 2018 at 7:58 pm

          Love your prose, Ms. B.

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  25. SILVIA says

    November 25, 2018 at 10:55 am

    Interesting viewpoint. They can cover up some crimes under the facade of ‘religion’, as some other cults have done it.

    On the other hand, you have an issue that not even Alcapone could hide: money laundering, embezzlement, fraud and tax evasion. That is an angle to use to expose this type of criminal organization and then add all the other corrupt activities the sociopath leader has been doing for years.

    And yes, the so called leader will follow LRH’s example of hiding, with no friends and unable to enjoy life.

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  26. Clearly not clear says

    November 25, 2018 at 10:36 am

    Of course the church doesn’t want to go to court. The psychs from Farsec control the courts. So they couldn’t get a fair hearing because the psychs are out to destroy Scientology.
    Duh.

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  27. Jill Ellsworth says

    November 25, 2018 at 10:06 am

    Good post. The same reason why celebrities, politicians, and so on, settle out of court. The truth can be devastating.

    Reply
  28. TrevAnon says

    November 25, 2018 at 10:01 am

    Old (2010) list of court cases the COS lost. Ever since they lost a few more and/or decided to settle before a jury was picked. I’d think Laura Decrescenzo’s case was the last big one.

    http://whyweprotest.wikia.com/wiki/List_of_lawsuits_lost_by_Scientology

    Also a few lawyers took on Narconon after several people died while at Narconon facilities.

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  29. Mary Kahn says

    November 25, 2018 at 9:41 am

    Putting aside the lies as to what scientology offers, this one post alleges enough but not all of its abuses and real crimes against specific individuals and against humanity that have been going on for tens of years. And – STILL – nothing – from the IRS or DOJ. The church might be fewer in numbers but still exists, still takes in millions a year, and still hides those that not only have been abused themselves but can corroborate the allegations of abuse.

    Mike and Leah, Tony, Chris Shelton, Alex Gibney, etc., can only do so much. The church has billions of dollars, free labor and brainwashed sycophants which it appears to be using to manipulate the justice system for the next billion years.

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  30. Scribe says

    November 25, 2018 at 9:38 am

    David Miscavige being sworn in:

    Bailiff: Do you swear to tell the truth, the whole truth, and nothing but the truth?

    Miscavige: The ultimate truth is a static.

    Bailiff: Do you swear to tell the truth, the whole truth, and nothing but the truth?

    Miscavige: Neither truth nor a lie is a motion or alteration of a particle from one position to another.

    Judge: Please answer the question yes or no.

    Bailiff: Do you swear to tell the truth, the whole truth, and nothing but the truth?

    Defense Attorney: Objection your Honor. Bailiff is badgering the witness.

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