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Ideal Orgs — You Didn't Think You Were Done Giving Us Your Money Did You?

April 8, 2013 By Mike Rinder 35 Comments

Yesterday’s post about Flag now sucking money out of the nearly lifeless bodies of its public for the “Southeast Ideal Orgs” engendered a lot of email, comments and another promo piece from a local Special Correspondent.

While there were mentions of other “Ideal Org Alliances” — this one takes the cake. It’s a whole COUNTRY and more!

Spearheading into the Great White North out of the hotspot of Scientology in Canada — Cambridge (formerly Kitchener) — this “All Hands” fundraising drive for a “Clear Canada” (the new euphemism for “All Orgs Ideal”) is in full swing…

Just a couple of points to note:

1. Buffalo is already “Ideal” twice, and last I checked, was not part of “Clearing Canada” — they have their own problems clearing enough to keep their US electricity bill covered.

2. Though Buffalo is included, Montreal isn’t (maybe that is part of the “Clear France” All Hands??) and neither is Calgary. But wait a minute, Calgary no longer appears on the list of orgs on the official website. Seems Calgary went the way of Denmark/Copenhagen, CC Dallas/Dallas, CC LV/Las Vegas, CC Ptl/Ptl…. In this era of astonishing expansion, orgs are closing.

3. It is highly unlikely that Cambridge/Kitchener pulled off financing their own Ideal Org — unless one of their 10 public is a billionaire. And there is a CLO right in Toronto.  A CLO responsible for “clearing Canada.” So, why Cambridge?

If any Scientologist thinks the demand for their last penny will end if they get to the top of the Bridge and get their local org Ideal and Super Power built, and books into the hands of every opinion leader, in every library and in every garage on earth… not so fast! There will NEVER be an end to this. Once all the orgs in the US are done, it will be the “Clear Argentina Alliance” in Kansas City — sort of like “sister cities”.  Then it will be “Clear India Alliance” to build 50 Ideal Orgs from scratch in India because 1 billion people need to be cleared too…

And I havent even mentioned the IAS.

This is a study in Hey You/All Hands/Unusual Solution/Squirrelling. It’s another IQ test for the clubbed seals. Unfortunately many of them will flunk the test. It’s kind of like asking someone “Would you please show up on Sunday so we can hit you up side the head with a 2×4” and their response is “Yes, I think I deserve that and owe it to you to participate, especially as I know this will guarantee my eternity of blissful ignorance if I keep at it.”

How pathetically sad….

 

 

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  1. Rick Mycroft says

    April 12, 2013 at 1:08 pm

    They want to make Winnipeg an Ideal Org?! They bought a large building in 2008, but it going to cost over $7,500,000 just to bring the building up to code, and then there’s all the fancy Ideal Org dressing and do-dads to pay for.

    Meanwhile, there’s maybe 20-40 Scientologists in the area.

    Talk about a disconnect from reality! A rational plan would have been to expand from the current office to a store front, dress it up nice, and then concentrate on delivering services. When that place is busy and full, then look for a bigger building. (Who’s going to be attracted to a place that always looks empty because staff and public are rattling around in it like a small marble in a very large can?)

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  2. Aquamarine says

    April 9, 2013 at 11:29 am

    Really – windows, are you kidding? Who would even dream about requesting such a thing? That could be interpreted as “other fish to fry”. And the 11o’clock news? To be avoided, strictly. Ten minutes of TV could add 10 thousand dollars to the cost of their next sec check. Everybody know that. Besides, its all lies anyway. They are all SPs out there anyway. Nothing to see or to learn out there. Everybody knows that.

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  3. Ladida says

    April 9, 2013 at 9:51 am

    Also no Vancouver in this “Clear Canada” – and yet there’s Buffalo (in the US). Given Vancouver real estate prices, this would make sense, but nothing about Ideal Orgs makes sense.

    Reply
  4. Vin says

    April 9, 2013 at 7:39 am

    Wow, one can waste almost an entire day watching VIDEOS and listening to rah rah, rally the troops, give me your money. I really hope it is a beautiful spring day in Kitchener. Maybe the room will have windows that they can look out of; if not, they can also watch the eleven o’clock news (if they are out by then) and learn what a great day they missed.

    Reply
  5. steve spargo says

    April 9, 2013 at 5:40 am

    I have enjoyed reading this blog since its inception. There are a lot of things I like about it. But today, I’m going to single out this phrase:
    “sucking money out of the nearly lifeless bodies of its public”
    It’s so true, and as an outpoint, it is very rejectable and extremely funny.

    Reply
  6. Aquamarine says

    April 9, 2013 at 2:35 am

    Great article as usual Mike. I would evaluate this alliance business as good news because a a previous poster just stated the logical reason for such alliances is lack of public.

    Now, I will bet that the Dwarf spins this as “islands of succor” which are expanding and beginning to touch one another – that LRH reference, I forget the name of it.

    Never mind that there are no people in these orgs – expansion is occurring, and if anyone doesn’tagree that it is, then then there’s something wrong with that person, must be overts, whisper, whisper.

    Reminds me of that old joke about the wife who catches her husband right in the act in bed with another woman and yet he still denies it, saying, “Are you going to believe me, or your own eyes?”

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  7. Gus_Cox says

    April 8, 2013 at 8:46 pm

    Dang, the Clubbed Seals are starting to remind me of a cargo cult. “There used to be buildings brimming with students and auditors. Therefore, if we build these nice buildings, they will brim with students and auditors.”

    In the case of cargo cults, it was simply indigenous people who did not know how technology worked. Airplanes looked like magic. In the case of the Clubbed Seals, it is willfully ignorant people who utterly refuse to look at wtf is happening around them. The Clubbed Seals have no excuse.

    Note that I’m not saying Mr. David Miscavige has a cargo cult mentality – no, Little Hitler is fully aware of his own criminal conduct. It’s the people upon whom he is perpetrating his criminal acts.

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  8. Richard Lloyd-Roberts says

    April 8, 2013 at 5:32 pm

    My favorite line from these type of events “never seen before data (details, info, footage, lectures, LRH footage etc).
    Worst yet and as mentioned above what part of Buffalo NY USA is Canadian. Get a geography lesson won’t you.
    Buffalo was one of the worst ARC broken orgs in the country when I used to call them in 2001/2. The PES was always bitching about how bad it was an they had next to no first starts on the bridge back then. I doubt the incessant regging has done much to fix that.

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  9. Mark Patterson (Grasshopper) says

    April 8, 2013 at 4:29 pm

    Well, they can’t do it one org at a time anymore because there are no public left.

    Reply
  10. SteveJ says

    April 8, 2013 at 4:24 pm

    This is interesting. I wrote a long review of Ottawa org for Scientology Reviews, but it never got posted for some reason. Very strange. It’s a nice site, but it has a lot of bugs that need to be worked out. I spent a good 30 minutes writing about Ottawa org and it never showed up.

    I would be very interested to know what the Church’s plans are in Ottawa, because the current org is on the 2nd floor of a decrepit building, right above a marijuana/drug supply shop. It’s been a very embarrassing org for Scientology, and they have had the same three or four staff for 20 or 30 years now, all of them crazy and very weird. Honestly I’ve been to a lot of orgs over the years and Ottawa org must be the weirdest of all of them. I’ve always thought Scientologists tended to be weird, but these guys were over the top weird.

    I’m confused about what you guys are saying about Copenhagen. AOSH EU in Copenhagen appears to still be active. I mean, the building is still there and the websites are operative. It is strange because AOSH EU does not appear on the official Scientology websites, but its own websites still exist and the staff appear to be active. But on the scientology.org website, it’s not listed anywhere, and the official Church listing for Scientology Copenhagen uses a different address from AOSH EU and says it is not even open yet (upcoming Ideal org).

    What’s the story with this?

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    • Mike Rinder says

      April 8, 2013 at 5:14 pm

      Steve — for many years there were 5 Class IV/V orgs in Denmark.

      Copenhagen Day
      Copenhagen Fdn
      Denmark Day
      Denmark Fdn
      Arhuus

      The first 4 were located in the city of Copenhagen in two separate buildings. One was in the front of the Pubs Dk building and the other was in a separate property in the city.

      Then a new “IDeal Org” building was purchased and that was the end of Denmark Org.

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    • Anna says

      April 8, 2013 at 5:41 pm

      Steve, in Kopenhagen is also the AOSH EU . St.Hill is also not listed in the SC Website as all the other AO´s , only the future New IDEAL AO´s . …… all is IDEAL in the SC Website.

      Reply
  11. PreferToBeAnon2 says

    April 8, 2013 at 4:05 pm

    Someone on yesterday’s post compared the current situation to the death throes of an Enron, Lehman, etc. Looking at all possible profit potential (clearly, there will be an end to the Idle Morgue approach as they can’t even keep the lights on the mausoleums, and rearranging the deck chairs to consolidate orgs won’t solve it), I am thinking about its other revenue streams. I understand that there are about 57 Narconon rehab centers –with only 12 in the United States. There is also a Purif thrust in Vietnam re agent orange and some focus on Taiwan and Mexico. With the recent US lawsuits going on (11 alone against the OK facility) and some changing laws around this, it will be increasingly difficult to keep it going here in the US. The majority of income on these ABLE lines comes from abroad anyway. I am wondering how much of that is actually keeping Co$ afloat. Does anyone have any thoughts or info about this?

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  12. ThetaPotata says

    April 8, 2013 at 3:54 pm

    Yes, it’s like being a human amongst hungry vampires. It used to just many different groups competing to sell you services. For us in the Northwest it was Local Mission, Local Org, LA DAY, ASHO, AO (LA), Flag and finally the Freewinds. At least you would presumably be buying a service and get some gains from any of these competing groups. But then came the age of banging on you for donations without it being connected to a service. The IAS events started getting more and more controlling (e.g. you can’t leave the room until you agree to make a donation) then came the Ideal Orgs and an unprecedented push for money. The ideal Org fundraising was done in a very deceitful way. They pounded for years to get the building but then unbeknownst to most public that is only phase one of a multi-phased fundraising program because the building now needs to get renovated and “oh yeah, we also need a testing center.” During this same era there was also the push to fund Super Power. Again no exchangeable service just donate money so that later on, at some magical time in a magical building you will be able to actually buy a service (probably a really expensive service.) I’m glad I finally woke up and don’t ever plan to get stuck in the Church of Neverending Donation requests again.

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  13. Mantis says

    April 8, 2013 at 3:48 pm

    This alliance thing is world wide. We had the Gauteng Alliance here in South Africa (the province in which the Joburg, Pretoria and Joburg North orgs are). It seems this is now the African alliance covering all orgs. This weekend they are doing the same hoo-ha event with the exclusive video from COB which shows exactly HOW the planet will be cleared. As in the promo in this post it is going to be an 8 hour extravaganza culminating in a fund raiser.

    Reply
    • Mike Rinder says

      April 8, 2013 at 3:58 pm

      Would love to get hold of that video for any of you interested readers and Special Correspondents in the wings. Though I suspect it is just a rehash of one of his early briefings on the subject with the big arrows springing out from the ideal org and landing and magically creating groups and Missions and then more orgs.

      Reply
      • SadStateofAffairs says

        April 8, 2013 at 4:28 pm

        Oh yeah, to me those arrows popping up out of the Ideal Orgs looked more like nuclear missiles being launched to wipe out the surrounding field, and the way things are going in real life the nuclear missile depiction is pretty accurate.

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  14. Conan says

    April 8, 2013 at 2:54 pm

    Mike,
    You just crack me up!!

    Reply
  15. Lucy James says

    April 8, 2013 at 2:35 pm

    Oh horrors!

    Reply
  16. The Oracle says

    April 8, 2013 at 2:30 pm

    A “summit” on making Canada ideal? I HAVE been gone a long time with these new words being used in Scientology these days, does this mean a “summit” on how to to get a new building? They have to hold “summits” for that now? How to send money to David to go shopping for real estate for them to rent it back to them?

    While North Korea threatens nuclear attack, the Church is holding a “summit” on how to shop til you drop? I’m thinking folk are going to start calling the Church “SHE” in a minute! “She’s expanding now! She’s pregnant with new members!” “She’s about to give birth to Super Power!!”

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    • Simple Thetan says

      April 8, 2013 at 3:46 pm

      She loves to use her husband’s credit card.

      Reply
  17. Regular Dog says

    April 8, 2013 at 2:16 pm

    Yes, it is sad Mike. Hopefully more and more people will get saved from the Idle Org betrayals as well as other radical church betrayals before they are totally broke or worse. Hopefully news of your site here spreads quickly. Looks like Weird Dave is flipping buildings having others buy him lots of commercial real estate and then selling it off when they aren’t looking.

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    • Axiom says

      April 8, 2013 at 7:52 pm

      They missed doing obnosis drills. The thing is that they are PTS and afraid to look. I think it is kind of hard on them when they have spend hundreds of thousands to get up the “bridge” and been talked into donating more to special projects. That makes it hard to cut your losses. They feel that they can’t get a refund (untrue) and have mortgaged their house to the hilt. Remember, they were so thoroughly indoctrinated into believing that inside the church was the only route to eternal spiritual freedom. They just can’t give up now.

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  18. gretchendewire says

    April 8, 2013 at 2:13 pm

    God, does it ever end? I have friends still in the church, I mean intelegent human brings. How can they put up with this crap? Mind blowing.

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    • Ronnie Bell says

      April 8, 2013 at 10:30 pm

      I have friends still in the church, I mean intelegent human brings. How can they put up with this crap? Mind blowing.

      It does blow ones’ mind, doesn’t it? I was never a proverbial Kool-Aid drinker when I was still behind the razor wire. I was one of those whose ARC began to slowly falter, which resulted in my circling the orgs in an increasingly wider orbit. I simply had my reality broken so many times, and was disappointed so often by the vias, stops, and seemingly impenetrable barriers to simply getting on with it, that I just slowly moved further and further away from the center.

      In those days, I had no earthly idea that there was any such thing as standard tech delivery outside the realm of the official church. Had I known just that, I think I would have flown the coop in a flash. Believing that the church had an ironclad monopoly on the tech was the only thing keeping me somewhat tethered to it. I had all but given up on trying to fight my way past the church to get to the Bridge.

      But I had good friends who somehow seemed to be able to wend their way through the labyrinth. They seemed to making progress, if their accumulating certs were any indication. It just made me feel stupid and uncausative, watching them do things that seemed impossible for me.

      Well….those conclusions and awful feelings have all gone bye-bye now. I finally know what they were really doing, and it had nothing to do with making honest gains on LRH’s route – but everything to do with compromising their personal honor, integrity, and reality, to play the game of google-eyed fanatic.

      I know people who I formerly admired, who still play that game. Some of them have even been exposed to the truth that would break their shackles, if they’d only confront it. In time, they will. Whether they have the courage to, or not.

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  19. calvin b.duffield says

    April 8, 2013 at 2:13 pm

    Please note the opening line on the promo piece;-
    …………………………………………………………..i2.00. pm…………………………………………………………………….
    …………………………………………………”Lunch in the Ideal Org”………………………………………………………..
    We all know what drinks can do on an empty stomach! What happens though, when those
    drinks are sneakily spiked with undetectable “kool- aid” and of course the COB will ensure
    that the mandatory delectable food is made as “appetizing and irresistible “as possible.
    Naturally, we’re talking of a wide selection of sandwiches served as a matter “of course.”
    —-That is— ALL the sandwiches –( OF COURSE!) will have their DM secret “mystery” ingredient., that still keeps clubbed seals “hooked” into obedient submission. It seems there is just nothing to top the old tried-and-trusted “Mystery Sandwiches, washed down with iced Kool – Aid ”
    ……. So, “of course” — with the patrons’ defenses now thoroughly “taken care of,” the main presentation of “the program” can begin. The rest, “of course” has the usual, boringly predicable ending –total financial slaughter!……Still so un-f—–g – believable!

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    • Simple Thetan says

      April 8, 2013 at 3:44 pm

      Yummy, all that food. I want I want.

      Reply
      • calvin b. duffield says

        April 9, 2013 at 1:54 pm

        My plezzure Monsieur, May I tantallizze you wiss ze light-lee toasted croussants with
        sau’tee’d SP brains liberal-ly dressed wit’h Freeze -dried Freezone gizzards topped
        wit’h zee irresistabelle grated Anon’ cheese? Sacr’e bleu monsoir, pardo’n moi,
        But I must insist you follow wit’h our speci-a-li-tay for ziss grand’e occassio’n!
        Wizz ze compliment’s of ze Grande Master Cordon Bleu, Monsieur Demon, our magnifique dessert! Voila, may I introduce you to our delectabelle frozen Seal tongue topped wiss blood-cur de-ling ice- scream drizzell-ed wiss miscavige -o-holic sauce?
        Monsieur — whe’re are you go-ing? Monsieur—- Monsoir???

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  20. Sinar says

    April 8, 2013 at 1:50 pm

    There is no logic involved here, which leads to a conclusion that it is a craziness not worth thinking about. For a free lunch and dinner, as a clubbed seal, one is expected to drop everything; reserve and buy tickets to fly in from as far as Edmonton and Winnipeg to tour an Idle org and donate this coming weekend, as if one didn’t have a life? There is no mention of LRH at all.

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  21. KFrancis says

    April 8, 2013 at 1:39 pm

    Mike, I know this may all seem like madness but we just need to show some patience. The fault lies with us for our lack of appreciation. Someday soon the brilliance of all this will certainly make its way to the forefront for all to see. We just need to hang on a bit longer in order to be dazzled and amazed by the higher intelligence at work here.

    When the time comes we will all be invited to an exclusive presentation where all will be explained!

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    • Carcha says

      April 8, 2013 at 7:13 pm

      I have a deep-leak source telling me we are actually syphoning money from Earth to a much larger planet orbiting a nearby star where the expansion is astronomically straight up and vertical. “Clearing Canada” is just a diversion. This is all very top secret or I wouldn’t be telling you to keep it quiet until it’s official release. Shred this after you’ve read it..

      Reply
  22. Robin Adair says

    April 8, 2013 at 1:20 pm

    Mike,

    Copenhagen didn’t just close.
    It became part of the RO network like many orgs in Russia.

    Reply
    • Mike Rinder says

      April 8, 2013 at 1:34 pm

      Robin — Copenhagen and Denmark orgs were “combined” for the new “Ideal Org” building that was bought 5 or more years ago….

      Reply
      • The Oracle says

        April 8, 2013 at 2:34 pm

        Mike,

        “Combined” is a slippery slope. When an Org closes they say it “combined” with another one someplace else. All of the staff in Copenhagen walked out of the Org, together! And became part of Ron’s Org, right before it “combined”. (Folded)

        Reply
        • Mike Rinder says

          April 8, 2013 at 3:18 pm

          TO — thanks, I wasnt aware of that! So Robin was correct.

          Reply

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