With the ongoing rape trial of Danny Masterson, a lot of people are curious about scientology’s position with respect to reporting crimes to law enforcement.
Scientology responded to reports they forbid this in typical fashion — quoting the LA Times:
The Church of Scientology declined to comment on the pending criminal matter, but said the religion has no policy against reporting crimes committed by Scientologists to law enforcement.
“Church policy explicitly demands Scientologists abide by all laws of the land,” spokeswoman Karin Pouw said.
Though most people reject scientology’s denials about disconnection, breaking up families, abusing people etc etc and thus reject this lie, one has to have an understanding of scientology and the words of L. Ron Hubbard to understand what scientologists believe and how they act.
The first thing to know is that what L. Ron Hubbard says is to be taken literally and followed to the letter by all scientologists. His words are not parables and are not to be interpreted or used as mere guidelines. They are specific instructions on what to do. In scientology, one follows the words of Hubbard EXACTLY. Scientologists believe that if they are not followed precisely they do not work. But they work “100% of the time” when implemented exactly. His words are denominated “the technology.”
Let’s begin with the first Hubbard quotes, taken from the list of Misdemeanors, Crimes and High Crimes that he lays out in his scientology “justice system.” The “Justice System” is one the component “technologies” of scientology.
In the book Introduction to Scientology Ethics, the “bible” of scientology “ethics and justice technology,” Hubbard lists the following as High Crimes (there are hundreds of transgressions listed in the book, High Crimes are the very worst category that can result in being excommunicated from scientology):
Delivering up the person of a Scientologist without defense or protest to the demands of civil or criminal law.
Reporting or threatening to report Scientology or Scientologists to civil authorities in an effort to suppress Scientology or Scientologists from practicing or receiving standard Scientology.
Public statements against Scientology or Scientologists but not to Committees of Evidence duly convened.
Bringing civil suit against any Scientology Organization or Scientologist including the non-payment of bills or failure to refund without first calling the matter to the attention
of the International Justice Chief and receiving a reply.
As I have said, these things are to be read and followed exactly. The plain language leaves no room for doubt. Though scientology claims it “has no policy against reporting crimes,” these words from Hubbard make clear it is exactly what they demand from their members. Of course, if challenged they will claim “this is how we interpret the language” and know that no court can second guess their “interpretation.”
There is a second element to what scientologists believe based on the words of Hubbard: indoctrination into the worldview of Hubbard.
He had a very low opinion of everything outside the scientology bubble. He coined a term for it; the “wog” world. Wogs are non-scientologists and it is a derogatory term widely used in scientology.
Hubbard claimed that ONLY scientology, only his “technology,” could save mankind. He reserved some of his harshest criticism for “wog” law enforcement and courts. In fact, the last chapter of his ethics book is titled “A New Hope for Justice” and it expresses his utter contempt for all things outside the scientology “justice system.”
Here are a few choice quotes:
As they themselves are contaminated by their criminal associates, the police and court systems are, in the main, composed of downstats who couldn’t make it in life any other way.
Societies traditionally cave in through their police and justice systems, since these provide a channel of contamination between the vicious and lawless, and decent people.
There is little thought of administering justice so that individuals can improve. There is every thought to punish and create misery.
Justice systems thereby become a sort of cancer which erode every splendid ambition and achievement of the decent citizen.
“Justice” apparently cannot be trusted in the hands of Man.
You can see the full document here: NEW HOPE FOR JUSTICE
To a scientologist, turning someone over to “wog” justice is a cruelty.
Scientologists believe that someone who commits a crime can only be cured by scientology auditing. Hubbard admonishes scientologists:
All evil stems from aberration. And it can be pretty evil. And awfully aberrated. The only road out from evil is processing.
Aberration here refers to non-optimum conditions or conduct. Processing is scientology auditing. Turning someone over to law enforcement prevents them from “receiving standard scientology.”
Finally, the overriding concern of every good scientologist is the well-being of scientology. Anything that detracts from the image or “good work” of scientology is bad, and anything that assists scientology to raise its profile and reach in the world is good. Negative media stories about scientologists committing crimes are very bad for the organization. And thus bad for all of mankind, because if scientology is unable to get “the tech” applied broadly, every man, woman and child on earth is doomed to a dark, painful future. This factor guides all scientologists’ decisions about what is right or wrong, even if there were no specific rules covering a circumstance.
Scientologists who do not report crimes to law enforcement are not merely “following the rules,” they are doing what they have been taught is the “right” thing to do.
This is the crazy level of brainwashing that exists inside the scientology bubble. It is hard to fathom unless you have been a part of it.
Don’t forget this gem,
“Somebody some day will say ‘this is illegal.’ By then be sure the orgs [Scientology organizations] say what is legal or not.”
– L. Ron Hubbard, Hubbard Communications Office Policy Letter, 4 January 1966, “LRH Relationship to Orgs”
Hubbard set out to control the people around him, and for many years succeeded, at least for those physically near him. Miscavige fell into the same trap, demanding subservience, claiming he did more, and better than anyone else.
But both guys were just fanning the playbook of narcissism, hoping to find their way in the world. At the end of his life, Hubbard said he had failed. Yes, he failed, because he trashed his children, family, and minions at every opportunity, thus was left cold and alone at a time when dying elders in the ‘wog’ world are in hospice, with family and friends coming around for comforting last words. Will Miscavige die cold and alone some day? It seems inevitable, to me at least. Maybe Cruise will show up, maybe a lawyer or two, but family? He has rejected them all. That is the sad punishment a guy like Miscavige endures every day, knowing there is no one he can count on, because all the world is populated by backstabbers and fools, or so he thinks.
There is a difference between the unsubstantiated policy against reporting crimes of other Scientologists to law-enforcement, and what their actual practice is.
Danny Masterson is not the only Scientologist who has allegedly committed a felony. If what Karen Peow says is true, I suggest that she provide 10 other examples of a Scientologist reporting another Scientologist to law enforcement. (and then publish that policy for all Scientologists to see).
Don’t you think that of the “millions” of Scientologists in the world, it has to have happened more than just this one time.
Mike, I’m really glad that you quoted from the LRH Intro to Ethics book and showed what High Crimes were in Scientology and explained this.
I would imagine that there are some people who are curious enough about this case that they will wonder about why it is that the women didn’t come forward and what exactly the policies of the church are that caused this in detail. And I’m really glad that at this moment in time you are providing the actual quotable detail.
Last night I dreamt that I was one of the jurors . When we went in for deliberations we had a decision after 10 minutes. But, just to get Danny to pucker up more we called for the Ethics book (admitted as evidence) to be delivered to the jury room for further review.
I hope the Prosecutor in his closing remarks alludes to Hubbard’s ‘Introduction to Scientology Ethics’ book as the introduction to the absolute control the church had over these women.
CO CMO CW Jeannie Williamson was given a scathing disapproval from LRH, he ordered she be busted to Deputy Trash Room In Charge, or something.
She did the D/Trash Room I/C job for a week or two, then rebounded slightly.
On her rebound, she passed through the staff course room, where I was course supping at the time, and there were all sorts of people getting busted and wrongly blamed for stuff, I forget what I got, but I asked her advice.
Jeannie said to remember the “If it’s not true for you, it’s not true.”
In effect, the ace in the hole LRH quotation, to always remember, to use, even to counter another LRH writing that is targeting and blaming you, is the “Is if isn’t true for you, it isn’t true.”
And she had had an LRH “wrong indication” level untruth hurled on her.
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I hate to get al Sea Org lawyerly, but the ESTO lecture where LRH even admits, he’s blown some staffs’ heads off in the heat of the moment, and the ESTO is to go and put that staff member’s head back on, and smooth over and ameliorate the damage that LRH as fire breathing Product Officer felt justified in even blasting some staff to get some production rolling.
LRH’s Product Office production demanding, and “blow the stops off the lines so that production is gotten moving” attitude, and then the ESTO might have to come around later and smooth over the dead bodies of staff who got rolled.
This is all ultimately, though, LRH flawed “product officering” and LRH’s ideas just truly are core wrong.
Since the quackery of Scientology is quack pseudo-therapy and quack exorcism, there’s no justified Product Officering nor any amount of paste up ESTO Officer cleanup and smoothing the ruffled feathers of the dead body staff who had to be walked over by the Product Officer.
The whole Hubbard administrative boundaries are sick, just don’t join Scientology staff and expect this Hubbard system to work.
It’s a quackery sales empire, and staff and public are the debris trail.
No earthlings today are full of Xenu’s body-thetans, and no one needs OT 3, 4, 5, 6 and 7 exorcism to fix them.
Quit Scientology, and never suffer the Hubbard staff and public blaming system, and avoid the snipe hunting chasing after Xenu’s body-thetans that do NOT infest your human body.
“If it isn’t true for you, it isn’t true.” The only true thing to take from Hubbard, and just kick every and all Hubbard nonsense ideas right out of your head.
Chuck, WOW. Had to read this 3x to understand but once the light bulb went on I am reminded of (I think it was Polonius as he was watching Hamlet talk to himself) line, “Though this be madness, there’s method in it!”
“It’s a quackery sales empire, and staff and public are the debris trail”. L. Ron Hubbard created and continued to develop the system to order his world and his thoughts and exorcise his demons and profit from it to boot! He was a tortured though brilliant and charismatic figure who could sell ice to Eskimos, as the old saying goes. I think L. Ron Hubbard believed his own s**t
David Miscavige, notsomuch. I don’t think he really believes in much or any of this, except for the power and control. And being a scn practitioner since childhood, I think he was smart and then ruthless. His loyalty is to no one, not even L. Ron Hubbard.
Though I have no doubt he is increasingly tortured, he sadistically doles out so much hurt and hate that he has become the evil he (supposedly) seeks to exorcise from people and the cult. What a small, small man occupying an increasingly small, small space
The wreckage of so many lives involved in and touched by scientology is what is truly tragic. It is intense reading about this even I was never in it.
Watching Tony Ortega’s reporting on the Masterson trial, many truths about actual (real) practice of scientology including disconnection are being presented. However, a person does wonder how much can really come through in a trial to drive home that delays in reporting in this case were caused by a higher loyalty to the beliefs in scientology. That, plus you never know what a jury is actually going to do. Only they get to go in back, and only what’s presented to them and their discussions get considered.
It would not surprise me (though it would be upsetting) if they get a hung jury this first go ’round. I do believe that God deals with evil people no matter what they get away with in life. And I do understand why so many former scientologists do not subscribe to any religious beliefs or teachings and never will again, for fear of trading one bad man-made system for another.
Wishing you and yours peace.
“It’s a quackery sales empire, and staff and public are the debris trail”
This goes on the quote wall. It’s bang on.
It belongs alongside someone’s brilliant summation “it’s a criminal organization masquerading as a religion and operating as a business”
Nicely presented Mike. But as you say, “This is the crazy level of brainwashing that exists inside the scientology bubble. It is hard to fathom unless you have been a part of it.”
This trial of Masterson is underpinned on the very understanding of how Scientology i.e. the plaintiffs at the time of the alleged assaults were so heavily indoctrinated into how Hubbard viewed the world of humanity they feared their very eternity would be denied salvation if they reported it to police. Hubbard viewed humanity with such contempt, so deep in his teachings or technology as he called it, it forbid the consulting of law enforcement before Church officials were notified and their counsel administered following Hubbard’s Church policy. Rape is such a mind, body and soul numbing terror of a crime… what good comes from reporting it to someone or a system that solemnly but falsely believes there is no such thing as a victim in Scientology. Logically, in my mind Scientology and the people that administer Hubbard’s writings should be seriously held in contempt. However, Hubbard burnt the candle from both ends and contradicted himself so skillfully there is always a reference to cherry pick to present for their own defense. Codes such the Code of a Scientologist, while never applied or is punishable if attempted within the Church itself is presented to the world as camouflage for their internal abuses of their members. Yet their members believe that they are personally under protection of the church which can be so easily proven a lie once viewed away from inside of the church itself. That’s why there are no longer ‘spokespersons’ who are Scientologists, just lawyers or statements made by people who will never be allowed to be questioned in public. Scientology only deals in lies. The head of the Church itself cowers in hiding, a subpoena his greatest fear. Yet he controls billions of dollars.
Scientology never, ever, has produced what it promises. For if they did, we wouldn’t have a blog like this nor the struggles we have with the theft of our loved ones, our personal integrity, time and the vast amounts of money being coerced with its lies. Until now, it’s been pretty much the perfect scam.
also, “the greatest good for the greatest number of dynamics” justifies anything, such as letting a rapist or murder escape punishment and even continue to offend, if it somehow avoids hampering scientology’s supposed imperative mission to save the whole planet, the future of mankind and infinite incarnations of billions of souls.
underlying all of Hubbard’s and Scientology’s beliefs and practices, is ends-justify-the-means type thinking and rationalization, and situational ethics that are completely malleable.
👌 Excellent
Obsession is the key essence of any Cult especially the leaders being projected as 100% correct and honest to give sustainence to this obsession in future.
If we look at mainstream religion ( Judaism, Hinduism,
Buddhism, Christianity, Islam and Sikhism).the leaders were living amongst the followers and they never had special treatment such as privacy, feast, personal protection etc .
That’s why Cults have an average life of 50 years, unless they reform themselves and move to mid west and bless the world with poultry and dairy farming. And, get benefitted from the huge tech available in Harry Porter series.
Another one that makes clear Hubbard’s opion of “wog” law:
“Somebody some day will say ‘this is illegal.’ By then be sure the orgs [Scientology organizations] say what is legal or not.”
– L. Ron Hubbard, Hubbard Communications Office Policy Letter, 4 January 1966, “LRH Relationship to Orgs”
Having studied lrh policies in depth since 1974, I was surprised that these women thought they could not sue because I knew that all they needed was a response from IJC – not an ok or not ok, just a response.
“…first calling the matter to the attention
of the International Justice Chief and receiving a reply.”
From the gals testimonies I’ve since seen the ‘response’ will be “…. but you will be declared.”
Lrh left that out making it sound like one could – just let IJC know.
What a racket. In all these years I thought one could sue with only a reply. I never wondered what that reply would be. Now we know.
Correct Cece. I used that line one time to sue a scamologists. The IJC got pissed but when I pointed out that the PL didn’t give him the power to forbid the suit I never heard from him again. I think it was Paul Laquere (spelling?) who was IJC at the time
Great point. As a Sea Org member, I learned more of the fine points from smarter public Scientologists who asked their clarifying and exact questions, and who pointed out things like this exact point.
Another great point I learned from smart Mission staff once was the “quit fast” reason which is in KSW #1. “if they are going to quit let them quit fast” is something this one Mission staff said his mission used alot. They’d quickly gave full refunds to newbie Scientologists, and let them go fast.
Public were always smarter than staff, I have to admit, in reflection.
I used to sit 15 feet from Paul Lacquere. His wife then, Andrea and I were twins on our Method 1 co-audit.
I knew all the Int Justice Chiefs personally, from Hamish Hamilton, the first IJC, to Jorgen Mueller (sp?) forgot his last name, then Paul L, then Sue Porter and I was out of the area and next I knew, a few years on, it was Mike Ellis. I think Mike was first a Cont Justice Chief before becoming IJC.
I worked in Senior HCO Int from 1984 to 1986, it was crazy. Hubbard’s rules for manning up Committees of Evidence were unachievable.
The one thing I did learn from an Apollo vet, Lynn Visk, was that the “Board of Review” criteria when you read them carefully, allow any Scientologist to almost guaranteed undo any injustice on the loophole of almost ALL Scientology justice actions universally omit to take into full consideration the value of all the good things that any Scientologist and any staff member have done on the positive side of the scale, which is to be taken into consideration even when the person is “proven guilty” of the charges. All one has to do, is scour the “Board of Review” criteria, and spot what was omitted in one’s Comm Ev.
But, best to always just quit Scientology, per the KSW #1 loophole, and just don’t play along with the scam quackery cult at all. It’s quackery legitimized with all the deflecting massive amount of bureaucracy rules and regulations.
Then it became you had to be a member of Wise, Cece— even for a civil dispute. Wise was claiming you had to get permission too. Wise even broadcast that anyone who was not a member was “out-ethics.” Even if you weren’t a member and you needed a contract dispute resolved or a long unpaid invoice despite gradients applied you were told to use wise or else! Then promised they go by the law, but wise didn’t always in such matters.
A major problem Hitler and hid crew had was their failure to understand those who opposed them.
Der Furher had a simple solution for everyone that got in his way, no need to understand them.
I keep thinking of the movie Valkyrie and Tom Cruise’s role in it, and in the cult.
(Facepalm)
Re: “In scientology, one follows the words of Hubbard EXACTLY.”
This is true. If, as an auditor, you deviate from following what Hubbard has said and/ or written, you will be sent to Cramming for correction. And you won’t be able to go back to course or the HGC (Hubbard Guidance Center, where someone goes to receive professional auditing), until Cramming says that it is okay.
If Cramming isn’t able to fix you or if after returning to course or the HGC you continue to deviate fron Hubbard’s technology, you will be routed to the Ethics dept. You may then embark on an Ethics program. You might have to do lower conditions. You might need to collect the funds needed for a Confessional.
If things get worse, and you’re still not complying with Hubbard, you might get a Non-Enturbulation Order. Or if deemed a PTS (a Potential Trouble Source), you may need to work on a Handle or Disconnect Program. Or, if all else fails, you might be declared a Suppressive Person.
These “handlings” are designed to make you obey, to bend to scientology’s will. Once you are on a scientology course or auditing action, God help you if anything goes wrong. And if it does, scientology will stop at nothing to make you a good student, auditor or pre-clear.
Common to all cults, not just Scientology. Mormons do it. Jehovah’s Witnesses do it. Pressuring you to conform to their ways of thinking and doing.
“God help you if anything goes wrong”. A la Lisa McPherson.
I have never been a part of it but I can listen and learn. I can read and learn. I may not be the brightest crayon in the box but I do know that when as may people as do speak out against it there is a problem. I have been paying attention to this trial and I can see it in the testimony. The were brow beat to not report this crime. ( And I do think crimes were committed.) Another thing is that the defense lawyers have done everything they could to make sure that the jury knows as little as possible about scientology and that none of the pertinent facts about it are brought into testimony.
No, scientology is not on trial. However, because of their teachings and actions it is a real big part of it.
But that is just my thoughts.
Oh Scientology is very much on trial here in the court of public opinion worldwide (imo). There is no way that it isn’t. The more they try to hide it – the more it glows.
When the plaintiffs are on the stand, surely the court wants to hear the truth, no matter how any objections by defense. In fact the more objections about Scientology not being on trail here, the more it will be.
I’m trying to be neutral about Masterson and am interested to hear what the jury decides. Oh, he must be sick to his stomach not only with his potential guilt being real and exposed but the weight of a multi billion dollar cult glaring at him and listening intently to every word he utters. He’s one cooked goose no matter what the verdict is, especially if he feels Scientology is his salvation.
This case could just be the straw that brakes the camel’s back.