The STAAD League continues to froth and rant about the strangest things.
While they try to maintain a pretense that they care about anything OTHER than scientology’s right to abuse people without censure, they fail routinely.
Here is their latest “cause” — my reference to Michael Chan as Chan Man in the Thursday Funnies. Apparently a rhyming nickname calling him a “Man” is a “racial slur,” “bigotry” and even “homophobic”(?) and I should not be employed by anyone associated with Disney (the parent company of A&E).
I am happy to know that Michael reads the Thursday Funnies (well, truth be told, I am sure he has never looked at them — but Ed Parkin and other people in OSA do and they probably wrote the letter for him) but like all scientologists, apparently they checked their sense of humor at the door. I have used nicknames for plenty of the scientology shills that regularly appear in their promotional items — remember some old favorites, Kaye “Bubbles” Champagne (discriminating against alcoholics?) or Jeff Mintzmeat (anti-semitic?), Gavin “Harry” Potter (wizardophobe?) or even The Sherminator (mulletophobia perhaps?).
Clearly these are all snarky expressions. My snark is why I call this the “Thursday Funnies.”
Now, let’s just review what scientology and its public shills say about me.
I am a “wife beater”, “baby shaker” and rapist. There is absolutely no evidence no support these slurs — in fact a Sheriff’s report to the contrary. Their latest claim is that I would “just commit genocide on all the children because he really couldn’t care less about them” and I would “do it right now if it were not illegal.”
These are not statements of ridicule or snark. They are stated as “fact” in an effort to cost me my job in accordance with L. Ron Hubbard policy.
On the other hand, I assume Michael Chan is actually a man.
Which is the real discrimination and bigotry Ed?
Which do you think Disney, A&E or anyone else should be concerned about? Snark on a blog calling people “Man” or tax-payer funded campaigns to destroy the lives of people scientology doesn’t like?
It’s pretty clear which side of that question they come down on.
So Disney is the parent of A&E? Major props, for them doing and continuing you and Leah’s show. I’m looking forward to Season 3.
It never occured to me to take a “STAND” on being called “Kay Row your Boat” and “Kay Mila son of a B–ch”. I wish to file a complaint with the management for all the years they didn’t “STAND” up for me against this outrageous cruelty!
Apparently, the Rinder Kinder are not safe. (Please don’t sue me Mike!)
FWIW. The Complete Oxford Dictionary lists the numerous meanings that a single word may have been used in any particular context, from the most dominate use to the least. And here is where it gets juicy: The dictionary lists by date and event each instance that the word was used in that way. A Word Clearer’s dream come true.
This caught my eye this morning with an above the fold story about Me Too:
#Metoo bill hits snag in partisan spat
By John Finnerty/CNHI State Reporter Sep 6, 2018 Updated Sep 6, 2018
HARRISBURG – Any hope that #metoo movement-inspired legislation will get fast-tracked during the state Legislature’s fall session appeared dashed on Thursday.
Source: https://www.cnhinews.com/pennsylvania/article_85a53df0-b20a-11e8-8652-b713143b94d5.html
Grasping at straws much, cult?
Poor Co$! You are so maligned!
Off Topic but possibly of interest as a BIG WIN for DAVID MISCAVIGE & His OSA OGRES:
Dear Sir:
I just read that Trump had a young man escorted out of his recent Montana rally.. Not for heckling or protesting though.: “Plaid Shirt Guy” along with others had been randomly chosen to sit behind the President The only stipulation for this honor being that he along with the other sitting behind Orange One had to be continually smiling, enthusiastic, applauding, and in every way emanating delighted approval throughout the entire rally..
Well, PSG must have had an MU on these instructions as he made the fatal error of applauding when he approved of something the Pres said but not reacting at all when he disagreed. No booing, no disruption of any kind. Just no reaction when he didn’t agree, which was several times throughout the President’s speech.
In other words, there were GAPS in his smiling, clapping, fist pumping, etc.!
So the Secret Service removed Plaid Shirt Guy, taking him to a room and questioning him for 10 minutes before telling him he had to leave. Obviously something was very wrong because he hadn’t been enthusiastic ENOUGH. He didn’t applaud ENOUGH.
Yo Plaid Shirt Guy:
FLUNK! Here is your Pink Sheet. Find your Misunderstood Word! What is it about “applaud continually” that you do not fully understand? (OR, maybe you have OVERTS on the President? Or what else would cause you to NOT applaud the President’s every utterance when it was expected? Hmmm?)
Yo President Trump: That is a PASS on that drill, Mr. President! Please proceed to your Star Rate Checkout. Write up any wins you’ve had and don’t forget to thank COB!
And last but not least: DAVID MISCAVIGE, TAKE A BOW, SIR! What just occurred in Montana, by accident or by design, redounds to your credit! There is no doubt that, thanks to you, Scientology is creating ENORMOUS effects in VERY high places!
With much love,
Aqua
I am sure that DM does better than that. The person would have been put on the meter and the “auditor” would have demanded to know what CI he had to DM personally. Then he would have demanded to know what evil purposes he has toward DM.
I have watched a video of such an interview.
For a lot of us, anything coming from a scientologist is suspicious. This is one area where I pass judgement immediately. If I meet a scientologist, in my mind, they are in a deep credibility hole right from the start. They spew too much hate and bullshit to be taken seriously. I actually laughed when I read the letter in this post.
“BABY SHAKER!?!?!?” I have to admit, that’s a new one on me. If it weren’t so pathetic, it’d be hilarious. Where do they get this crap? Not to mention the fact that “Chan the Man” doesn’t even sound like a racial slur to begin with. What dictionary are those dodos using anyway?
They are frustrated and desperate. Their perceived power only occurs in their bubble.
Out here in Wogland we ‘know who they are and know what their doing’.
The more they express themselves the more they solidify our view of them being dangerous whack jobs.
Their idiocy, created by studying SP “tech”, is SO obvious to all outside of their hate bubble.
Looking forward to season 3.
You OSA guys and gals have been duped by SP make believe.
You hate “SPs” and all of us here in the real world see you as pariah.
Your PR is toast. It’s not salvageable. You can thank Slappy Miscavige and Ron’s SP “tech”.
You may have realestate and cash but you have zero good will and support from the society you are trying to salvage.
How can you save the world if Emmys are being awarded to people exposing your behavior?
Delusion is the only word that defines you guys now. It’s not my opinion, just google Scientology and read everything about Scientology not written by your thug organization.
That is your condition. The condition you create by fighting make believe.
The world hates Scientology. That is your stat. A stat you are solely responsible for.
Beyond any doubt.
Great post.
Just googled it … “Urban Dictionary” says “chan-man” is a newly popular phrase that means homosexual and is generally used among the homophobic.
Who knew ?
And as I noted in an earlier post today, he is probably claiming that Chan Man is a play on the offensive “Chinaman” that was used many years ago.
I have been reading the wrong dictionary. My vocabulary expanded considerably after visiting Urban Dictionary.
Learn sumpthin’ new every day.
Also, this:
https://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=Rinder
I’ve never heard of chan-man being a word for homosexual. I would bet the OSA made that entry into the urban dictionary to back up their claim. That letter is beyond dumb.
In Japan, the equivalent of Mr/Mrs/Miss, etc., is expressed by adding “san” on to the end of a surname. If you added “chan” instead, you are essentially calling the individual “cute” or “lovely”. It’s a term of endearment commonly used for babies, children or young girls. But you are not calling him Chan-chan. What might make matters worse is that I’m not even sure if he’s of Japanese descent (his full name is Chiu Hoi Chan). Does anyone know? In any event, this is farcical.
Cool – From now on I’ll refer to him as Chan San. I was away for the weekend and I’m just now reading this topic. From reading James Clavell’s book “Shogun” I understand that in ancient Japan, San was sometimes attached to a person’s occupation. Blackthorne, an English sea captain in the novel, was called Anjin (captain) San. The heroine of the novel who had noble lineage was Mariko San.
As far as the alleged racist slur, it just occurred to me that Chan is PROBABLY referring to the old fashioned term “Chinaman” … just a guess .
So, is he asking Mickey Mouse to go beat up David Miscavige?
S T A N D
Scientologists Talking Absurd Nonsense Dogmatically
Inadvertently outing one of your top $$$ makers by complaining to Disney is basically like the most scientology thing ever. And by that, I mean footbullety.
I feel new lyrics from WILLY WONKA’s “Candy Man” song coming ala “The Chan Man.” Anyone care to try?
The Chaney man can cause he mixes it with woo and makes the tech feel good?
No. “Chan the man can….” is better. I’m done now.
“The Chandy Man can cuz he mixes it with lies to make the COB feel goooood.”
“The Chandy Man can cuz he laces it with Fair Game to avoid the RPF’s bad foooood.”
Let’s not forget: Jackie Chan “The Man”, Charlie Chan “The Man”, Yau-Man Chan “The Man”, Kim Chan “The Man” and Willie Chan “The Man”. Here’s to Mike and to the many Chan’s.
If Chan ain’t a “man”, then what IS he/she/it?
I had NO clue that Chan was gay until he complained we were homophobic. Me, homophobic? Not hardly; I’m too busy romancing my lovely lady to bother considering others’ perversions.
Wow…they are really reaching for something to complain about. It is so ridiculous that it will likely have the opposite effect with Disney…….it just makes them look desperate and stupid. That is some cray cray talk there.
I think appoligies are in order.
Obviously Michael has been insulted by being reminded his last name is Chan, which as a Scientologist, he must view as an unwelcome racial association. After all if Source wrote it, it is True? Right?
“They smell of all the baths they didn’t take. The trouble with China is, there are too many chinks here.”
–L. Ron Hubbard, personal journal, 1928
In addition being called ‘the Man’, is an unforgivable insinuation that he is male.
I am starting a go fund me page to get Michael a sufficient supply of female Depends to get him through this awful and emotionally stressful time.
Am I missing something? Can someone tell me what is homophobic about the nickname? That is funny coming from a very homophobic church. Doesn’t the Freewinds forbid homosexuals from boarding the ship? That was always my understanding. I recall questions on the ship routing in form asking about any past homosexual behavior. I remember being told not to invite a specific individual to a Freewinds event because he was gay. I met a woman who had been turned away from an artist convention for a past relationship she had with another woman in college. Does anyone have a copy of that policy or routing form?
The business letter isn’t even in the correct form. No address where it went. It took me awhile to figure out why he wrote Disney. I get it now. We could write a similar letter-stating how much we love Mike and the show.All of us !!
One of my Great Aunt’s first name was “Gaye”….today it’s got a totally different connotation, or so it seems. Then there is the “Politically Correctness Issue”…..
Sports teams named “Indians, Yankees, Buffalo Bills, Dolphins, Texas Rangers…no no no….offensive!
Nicknames for people like “Sporty, Shorty, Stretch, Butch, PeeWee, Half Pint, Chubby, OMG OMG OMG….now STOP IT….those names are going to hurt someone’s feelings…..
I’m glad I’m old and 3/4 of the way OUT of this world…don’t think I want to be around, I’m not so much “Politically Correct”….
I too, am old. But I’ll go out kicking & screaming.
Ballet … You left out the 49ers … Using middle aged peoples’ age as a sports nickname! … And the 76ers!!!!!! … Is there simply NO respect?????
And I’m going to take a couple of ’em with me.
Not so much me OSD, Iyawn, & Joe
.
Going out kicking & screaming…naaash…not that I’m more or less “giving up” the fight so to speak but nowadays one is in danger of being sued for using a “politically incorrect” word….outside of the “N” word which is indeed offensive…but then so are the word “Polock, Mick, Wop or other terminology yet no one is EVER sued over THOSE type terms for someone’s background.
People use to help each other & care about each other and THAT is what I have found HERE…..and am grateful for. So many good people right here only wanting to make this world a better place, & we’ve done some good, but other ways failed miserably because those who wish harm to others seem to be growing in numbers.
As Ramina N said…NO RELIGION has the right to separate families based on religious belief…..she’s got her family back & nothing is better than that….guys & gals…love you ALL!
You honestly can’t see why “Redskins” or “Indians” is going to be hurtful to people, especially those of native descent? Kinda mind boggling. After murdering natives and taking their land and doing everything we could to erase their culture, you think it’s great to turn them into sports mascots?
Whatever. I’ll never understand old people like you who insist, kicking and screaming, for your right to as hateful as possible.
As an older guy I can tell you, Hate ain’t what it used to be. What you call hate now, was genuine affection in the old days.
Plus, as I have gotten older I have found more people to dislike.
cs, I hear you, but I think the intention behind the phrase contributes to making the phrase an insult or not and has to be taken into consideration also.
I grew up with WASPs who could be discussing someone amongst themselves “Who is this – person?”, or, “Who are these – people?” making the word “person” or “people” into something quite low! “What kind of a – person – would _ _ _ _?” No cursing, no foul language, no ethnic slurs. But you would be left in NO doubt of their low evaluation of the person or people being discussed.
On the other hand, when I was in high school, we had ONE Puerto Rican student. There were no African Americans, no Asians. Just a sea of white kids and one Puerto Rican guy. His name was Mike Otero, and he was a football wiz and very handsome. He was also very popular! And his nickname was “The Spic”. That’s what we called him. Now, I know that sound HORRIBLE in this day and age, but what can I tell you, it was meant with affection. We liked him. He was very popular with the guys and the girls. Lots of girls had a crush on him, including me for a while. I thought he looked better than Bernardo in West Side Story. Anyway, the point is, he was OK with his nickname because he KNEW we didn’t mean it in a mean way.
Of course, that was THEN. And he WAS the ONLY Hispanic in the entire high school. But just saying.
My only boyfriend in high school was Italian-American on both his mother and his father’s side, and he wasn’t much for studying, and his friends would frequently call him “guinea bastard”. “Hey, you guinea bastard, what are you doing later?” This was said with affection by them (not by me) and sometimes it would even be, “Hey, you (dumb/stupid/thick) guinea bastard, whatcha doin’ later? He didn’t mind. These were his FRIENDS. He had his ethnic slurs for THEM. Now, if some STRANGERS would call him a dumb guinea bastard…um…no. That would not fly. But his friends? That was ok.
Now, please, don’t think I’m ok with ethnic slurring because I’m not! I’m only pointing out that CONTEXT is important in these situations.
I looked up Chan in a dictionary.
https://chinese.yabla.com/chinese-english-pinyin-dictionary.php?define=Chan
Many definitions. I mischievously select just one:
谗 Trad. 讒 chán
to slander
to defame
to misrepresent
to speak maliciously
Chan is also a small shovel like utensil used for Chinese Wok cooking AKA a Wok Tosser
Well… who’s the man now hey?
Mike, you need to take a bow. You’ve impacted with the truth on an criminal organization that claims to make its members and adherents cause over life for the betterment of all life, greatest good and all??? (vomit).
The first and foremost humanist trait punishable (declares etc) by any Scientologist is ‘any sense of humor related to their subject,’ which btw comes naturally for truly sane people imo. Ever shared time with someone who has no sense of humor? My goodness, who hasn’t? But in a chain of command (the very essence of all Scioland activities and thought processes) it can & is horrific, and that IS Scientology – one horrific chain of command; where no lie is condemned as long as it aligns with their agenda. Which, by the way is now getting very defensive… well Hubby boy, what happened to your ‘always attack, never defend?? Lost your fangs somewhere in the corpses? Chan the Man has had his feelings rattled… poor didums.
The only avenue of human emotion allowed or tolerated for a Scientologist is to be serious, and that of course is enforced from above. Punishments and threats are the flux of Scientology, everything it does flows along with them.
That crap aside, this is actually just the death throws of an organization so buried in its own long history of human abuses. They twist everything done by others, no matter how light hearted, human, done in jest or as a cry for justice as an insult when it comes to the serious aspect of trying to hide their crimes – OSAs job!
Maybe they should all read and listen to the propaganda written into Scientology. The cows have come home with Hubbard’s double standard teachings and is biting them in the ass.
I guess another way of viewing this is that among the jokers and degraders of the apostates who post here and elsewhere are the most knowledgeable people on this planet on the technology and policy agenda(s) of Scientology. I’ve always maintained I would like a one on one conversation with Chan, not to make him wrong (too easy anyway) or otherwise but to challenge his understanding of what he professes to know of Scientology. How many hours of the week do you audit others Michael, how many Clears you made? How many internships have you done? In fact do you actually audit people (Hubbard’s personal directive for all Scientologists)? Ever applied, “The Reason for Orgs? I do however strongly suspect you know how to audit the money you make from commissions though.
Hubbard said in study tape #1 “better than 50% of the subject of Dianetics & Scientology is HOW you do it, not the data. Well… with all the Hubbard made CL 12’s now declared, no Briefing Course anymore and virtually no auditors made, the subject, whatever it’s worth is & always was a sham – this is just more evidence. Any therapy in it is dead and long gone. In fact if one wanted to truly know anything about the subject the best people to inquire with are the bitter ex members who once graced its corridors with good cheer and humor.
It was Scientology doctrines that rips families apart, destroys the well intentioned and ruins the financial lives of its members. How do you justify that? The letter above is an example – piss weak & poorly disguised tantrums is all they have. It sends chills down my spine what that organization will probably stoop to when the external “push comes to shove” breaks through their lawyer’s defensive protection. And it will, corruption has no defense when the money dries up or becomes too big or complicated to manage, ask Al Capone.
The letter is so lacking in details it’s silly. It’s that old adage…don’t try to win…just ruin them. And WTF is homophobic?? How did that happen to get in there? They only want to make waves…not actually be confronted on it and bringing up Rosanne Barr? LOLd That gives them credibility I guess ay? LOL
Roseanne Barr is hideous white trash. I’m glad she got fired for that Planet of the Apes tweet. She should have been fired back when she grabbed her crotch and spit after butchering the national anthem. She’s a disgrace.
Stan “The Man” Musial: Hall of Fame baseball player, 24x All Star, 3x MVP
Van “The Man” Morrison: Rock and Roll Hall of Fame, Songwriters Hall of Fame, Irish Music Hall of Fame, multiple Grammy Winner, 2 honorary doctorates.
Stan “The Man” Warinka: Swiss professional tennis player, formerly ranked as high as #3 in world.
Van “The Man” Johnson: Movie star, American film and television actor and dancer.
Stan “The Man” Turrentine: Legendary American jazz tenor saxophonist.
Chan Man: Professional footballer from Macau.
Stan “The Man” Lee: Iconic creator of the Marvel Comics universe.
Micael “Chan Man” Chan: $cientology pissant.
Since the term is/has been used broadly (and has been used as an honor), it cannot be claimed as a slur. For an OT VIII, all three Ls completion, Super Duper Power whatever, blah, blah, blah, the Chan turns out to be a pussy.
The homophobic charge is pretty ironic since Scientology is an extremely homophobic religion and Hubbard himself was virulently homophobic, to the point of despising his own son for being a homosexual.
Are they “outing” the ChanMan here?
And when Hubbard heard the news that Quinton had died, he started yelling, ‘What has that kid done to me! Over & over.
So Mike what was Disney’s reaction to this pathetically reaching letter? Unbridled laughter hopefully.
$cientology is the gift that keeps on dying by it’s own hand.
Good point Peter. I see script material being presented to them for free. Let the pros at Disney work on it for a bit, South Park’s vanguard set one hell of a precedent. Clever people those cartoonists – hey RB, you’re a pioneer buddy!
I also demand! Demand I tell you! That anyone who shouts “You da Man!” when a pro golfer hits an awesome drive…be arrested and put in jail for offending me. This kind of blatant, public manism MUST STOP. [hrmmmph grumble grumble]
Miss Q
I just love “public Manism MUST STOP”!
Man oh man you are so funny Miss Q
(By the way was whoever named you a bnookerphobe?)
sorry – snookerphobe
The fact that Scientology has to reach sooooo far (lie) in an effort to state something negative about their critics, speaks for itself.
Edward the Tool. Not to be confused with Edward the Fool and Edward the Stool.
Wow, who would have thought a scientologist like Michael Chan would be so delicate and fragile. It doesn’t speak well for the supposed strengths that scientology claims for one as high up the bridge as Chan.
Scioland has no annealing process, just greed in all its ugliness.
Chan the man?, I always thought it was a term of endearment.
LOL – retread required. Scientology can fix that.
It always sounded just a bit cheeky to me, like calling someone you don’t know dude. I guess to a super serious Scientologist, anything cheeky or casual would be cause for offense. Pretty weak.
It really is something that this cult just can’t stop proving the point that they are nothing but a money grubbing, hypocritical, family destroying, whiny bunch of cry babies. Their greed supersedes the common sense of what it takes to stay under the radar so they can keep bilking money from the US, which also doesn’t bode well (IMO) for the IRS for letting them pull that scam in the first place.
Hey idiots, keep it up! Please. Keep your cult out there for all the see. I love it and will patiently wait to watch the perp walks.
Slow and steady wins the race. Mike and the gang aren’t going away.
Ah, the satisfaction of seeing scientology perp walks is what keeps the world riveted to the slow train wreck that is scientology.
In the meantime maybe someone here could organize a system to choose who here would get the front row seat, or get to be at the front of the crowd to watch the perp walk up close and personal 🙂
Oh, good grief, this is just ridiculous. I trust his latest mean-spirited and transparent attempt to get you fired has been treated with the contempt it deserves.
Let it be hereafter known that the song “Mr. Sandman,” immortalized by The Chordettes in the ignorant, backward, sandist 1950s, is sandophobic and is deeply offensive to everyone with the surname Sand. I insist that it never be played again. Because I said so. [stomps foot for emphasis]
Ditto on “Superman” – an offense to all supers out there.
I can think of many descriptions for Michael Chan that don’t involve race: snake oil salesmen, charlatan, travelling con, and even fly-by knight.
Mike Rinder has done nothing but help those leaving Scientology on bad terms, and helping Leah bring to light those stories of victims who were either treated poorly or maligned by the Church of Scientology. He’s a hero. Criticism of Scientologists who are still actively harming the gullible or innocent is possibly the least that can be done to expose Scientology malifescence, but at least he is keeping a Scientology Watch.
Michael Chan being offended is the greatest good in this case, and he should feel ashamed of his continued actions in pressing medical claims that can’t be backed by peer-reviewed and accredited science. Sometimes our snarky comments can dillude the reason we speak out, but rest assured, this is all justified. Thank you Mike Rinder.
Yo Ed (Parkin) … while you’re trolling the net (as part of your post, to be sure) why not check out some real political satire from a brilliant GAY man. Make sure your speakers are turned on (you are allowed to look online with speakers, right?)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XFZU1XLwZGg
Commander of Cheese! ROTFLMFAO! Click on!
Yes, of the Fright House.
Just another day under the Big Tent with President Bozo.
So, if Mr. Chan’s promo flyers reach over eight million Scientologists worldwide and he’s not a public figure yet your TV show only attracted a meager 2.1 million viewers does that mean that you’re also not a public figure?
Did I miss something? Where does the ‘homophobe’ angle come in here? Now if ChanMan is in fact gay, he’s sure not going to be ‘out’ about it in scientology. That would put him what? -1.1 on the tone scale or something like that? What would any self-respecting clam go hear a self-improvement talk by someone so low on the tone scale?
Being gay: 1.1 on the Tone Scale. Which is WAY above where you’ll find Slappy Dave and Tom the deadbeat dad, down at Minus 8 Hiding.
I was wondering the same thing.
And what about “wog”?
Chan Man’s ghost-written letter doesn’t even mention what the alleged slur is! It’s so ludicrous, that they’re afraid they’ll get deservedly laughed at for mentioning it. Really: ‘Stan the Man’ is racist? Any male with an ‘an’ name probably gets referred to at some piont as ‘Stan the Man,’ ‘Dan the Man,’ etc. I construe this as midly afftectionate and complementary. C’mon, ChanMan, you’re pathetic.
Notice how vague and generalized the Chan “letter” is. No slightest attempt at “time-place-form-event”. Send him to cramming and write him up for “out tech”. So lame.
So my aging hippy friend who’s been calling me ‘man’ all these years meant it to be a homophobic slur? Wow, who knew!
Far out, Man.
If it’s too far out, I won’t be able to see it, RB. Sometimes aging sucks.
Wow, what does say about reggae music? Oh my… I had no idea Bob Marley was so bad!
Please Mr Tallyman, tally my bananas… also takes a hit from ‘Team Scientology’.
Personally I’m not an ‘aging hippy.’ I’ve already aged. Yesterday I even turned down a few tokes of weed. How did I get this old?
So, you’re an “aged” hippy, then? 🙂 Are you sure? Bix, true hippies never age enough to turn down a toke 🙂 Your reference for the would be the OSD Chronicles.
Yeah, it’s kind of ironic. Once upon a time I was obsessed with the weed (aka ‘pot’), got busted for possessing a miniscule amount – and here I am living in a state where it’s legal and I turn it down when offered. Actually, I was never a full flower-power hippy, more of a late-stage beatnik -when Womyn were still called ‘chicks’, weed was still hard to come by, but bennies and dexies (pharmaceutical amphetamines) were everywhere and easy to get.
Funny, I’m reading that letter like this…
Dear Mr. Disney,
Please cancel Scientology and the Aftermath because Mike Rinder bigoted me and apostated. Blah blah blah…
P.S. I am not a crackpot…
Dear Michael Chan
We were wondering here at Disney
What has a ton of CHINS?
A Chinese phone book
LOL
Sincerely,
Disney
To: PTS to the Middle Class
From:David Miscavige COB RTC
Re: Michael Chan
I want you and all your fellow SPs to cease this torment of Michael Chan immediately! This man is the most devoted and money making Scientologist around! He does not like being called “Chan Man” and it hurts his feelings terribly! Anyone who does not comply with this directive will be sentenced to a life sentence in the Hole, which, officially, no longer exists! And I do not care what Tubbo once said about chinks in China! He was only about sixteen then!
Wait, did I just say ‘chinks’?
Oops!
Sorry, Michael.
ML
Dave.
The Chan Man is a well known public figure for Scientology but he said, “I am not a public figure.” Mmmmm… sounds like a lawyer wrote this because the ChanMan IS slandering Mike. His defence is that Mike is a public figure, but the ChanMan is not.
From Wiki: “The legal burden of proof in defamation actions is thus higher in the case of a public figure than in the case of an ordinary person.”
Sneaky bastards…
Good catch, Robert A.
Scientology is racist and was always racist from its beginning. Hubbard called non-scientologists “wogs” and constantly mocked ordinary people. In scientology, anyone out of the organization is a “bank” or a reactive mind. Hubbard even called Jesus “a lover of young boys and men”. Hubbard’s Fifth Invader force was defined by him as a racist group of warriors. Hubbard’s space science fiction is full of racism, sexism and privileges for the “thetan” class which is considered superior. Scientology openly considered anyone on the lower rung of the social classes as nothing more than a rock. Hubbard openly mocked Asians on his trip to Guam in the early part of his life. He openly referred to Buddhist monks as “croaking frogs”. There is no religion on this earth as openly racist as Scientology. Any religion born from a degenerated Theosopy such as Scientology would mock others. There can be nothing but racism in a pantheism.
So now you are doing what Ed Parkin is accused of doing. Your (disrelated to racism) “facts” are mostly twisted nonsense to further whatever agenda you are pursuing George, like selling your silly booklet. I never encountered any racism in Scientology, far from it actually.
Foolproof,
I could care less about book sales. I have enough money thanks to the fact that I left Scientology thirty years ago and managed to buy some real estate. I do not even have a program or an agenda. Just now starting to have fun because I returned to my sixth grade religion class and found out about Scientology. Gnostic knowing works in revere in Scientology. When you are in Scientology, “knowingness” is ignorance. When you are out, ignorance is knowingness.
Foolproof,
I am so glad you showed up. I have a question that you, being up to date with the tech revisions, can help me with. I cannot find the references to : ‘suppress and shatter’, or ‘fair game and shatter’, or ‘destroy and shatter’, or ‘defame and shatter’ in my PTS/SP tech vols or training pack. But then my tech vols are from 1974, before davie edited out such unworkable statements as ‘confront and shatter’. And we know how well that ‘confront’ gimmick has been working lately.
many thanks and ML in advance
Well, Junior, go to the bottom of the class again. What is the silly point that you are trying to make?
Thanks,
I’ll take that as a NO, there are no revised SP/PTS bulletins by DM that state: ‘suppress and shatter’, or ‘fair game and shatter’, or ‘destroy and shatter’, or ‘defame and shatter’ .
It’s a shame since that is what the cherch/cult is now doing with the tech.
It’s known as “Marketing”. LRH didn’t invent the English language or have a monopoly on its use. The Church are not bound to reproduce LRH terms for such – you need to think a bit laterally. To be fair though (this is getting tedious for me – being fair that is – ha!) I also don’t like the use of “shatter” – it is too somehow too unnecessarily brutal.
Yes, I am sure people understood the drivel you just wrote George – a bit like the OTVIII “HCOB” you or some emotionally disturbed individual invented.
YES! I am emotionally disturbed because I was in Scientology for seventeen years. By the way, please talk to Dave and get me two checks – one for $6,000 and the other for $110,000. I want to buy the Freewinds ship.
What in the hell would you do with it except sink it?
My father told me that he was” Going to get a UBoat and sink that ship.”(The Freewinds. As an engineer on the Freewinds for 16 years I asked him if he needed an engineer for his U-boat.
Me too
Totally mortified I got tricked and manipulated by Scientology
Cringe
Fool proof
You have been fooled by Scientology
You are blinded by the scientological implants and cannot see Scientology for what it is
Just because you did not experience it did not mean it did not happen
Please – for your own well being – go all the way down the rabbit hole and set aside your bias
It is painful to watch
Really FP, why are you not in?
Nation of Islam members are studying $cientology.
I guess you have never encountered NOI in your journey as a Hubbardite.
Charles Manson and the Russian KGB studied Scientology. So what?
Sounds like you are in good company then FP.
Racism? Didn’t no one but Tubby mention “chink” or “gook” here. As detailed nicely above, Chan the man isn’t racist, it’s taken a high compliment by all but those bound and determined to find SOMEthing objectionable in anything others utter.
What UTTER BALDERDASH.
I didn’t say use of the phrase “Chan the Man” was racist. I think he (Chan) is deliberately misinterpreting Mike’s intent. Ok? Much in the same way though that others on here are deliberately misinterpreting Scientology usage of “wog” – it was never meant in a racist manner and has nothing to do with the skin color of non-Scientologists. As for the use of “chink” and “gook” I think you will find that the whole world talked that way back in the 40s and 50s. I would hazard a good guess and say your and everyone else’s parents did.
Foolproof, an honest question for you. Have you ever seen anything on this site or any others that might make you think there is something wrong in scientology?
… even ONE item? I ask this with all respect.
I have fairly regularly stated such. All the donations nonsense, harsh ethics, 3 swing F/Ns etc. Ok now? But that of course is not Scientology, they are “add-ons”.
FP,
What was LRH calling Asians when he ‘studying’ in Shanghai? He was at the bund maybe? What was that word? What did LRH call the Chinese there again? He used a slang term for them. Do you remember? I do. It was on his wiki page talking about his tour through Asia when he was a military brat in the Pacific.
Dauntless, defiant, and resolute. We’re not the IAS.
Answered above.
Wonder what the term “public” actually means then… oh that’s right, “raw meat” or “bodies in the shop” wogs even. I’m sure glad class or race distinction isn’t implied – just, how much money do you have? They even take the money from illegal PCs knowing they will never be serviced. What’s racism got to do with Scientology – absolutely nothing, they treat everyone the same until the money runs out.
So now that argument is derailed you have to find another one.
Ah… the sport of rejecting evidence. In my line of former work/career that generally got you or others injured/killed, then I believed in Scientology for a bit. Whatever floats your boat. You don’t have a monopoly on being stupid (axiom 38 and all). But being right, in any & every format, by any lie or ignoring others misery or cries for justice/help, now that’s the only way to go hey? Makes some people feel like a man, or woman I suppose, gender doesn’t have anything to do with it, just obedience.
It’s a hell of a thing to live with… hurting others. And think about it – Scientology is right no matter what – you know that!
You need to spend some time on burial detail, gives you a whole new outlook it does.
Evidence? What evidence (of racism)? Suggest you come up to present time and stop spending your life trying to find or inventing angles of attack on Scientology.
I’m probably going to get this wrong, but I think Hubbard also said something as a teenager like, “the problem with China is that there are too many chinks (or some similar slur) there”. A Kool-Aid guzzler like Mr. Chan must have surely come across this comment in his extensive reading of scientology materials.
Maybe I got that from some SP’s book. I don’t remember.
That’s the first thing I thought of too. What about your beloved guru Ron “The Mon” Hubbard’s anti-Chinese invective?
Answered above. Gus Cox – do you live on on Hollywood Boulevard by any chance?
You got it right Ms. B. Haven
Add to the list of slurs, “raw meat” and “raw meat public” is what Scns condescendingly call new people coming in to do a course or seminar or auditing in the church.
Again, the phrase “raw meat” actually never had a derogatory aspect to it when used – it meant simply a novice or perhaps new Scientologist. There was nothing derogatory about it. Only in your mind. The only slight nuance of meaning might have been that most people think of themselves as a meat body rather than as a spiritual being, but even that was never really part of the thought behind this. Try some other slur.
Foolproof, to me the phrase, “raw meat” was like the term “wog” in that both terms make the person less than you, less enightened, less aware, just less. It was condescending on the part of the Scns to think that they were better than the “raw meat” who walked in the door. No one ever said, “Oh goodie, here comes a spiritual being in our doors to do a course!”
Yes, alright, granted. But the term was hardly ever used. In fact I don’t recall it ever being used. The Div 6 guys may have used it as they were at that end of the equation so to speak, but even then it was never maliciously used as you are implying. And every group has its own version and idea of self importance. To cast such a phrase in the same light as racism is totally exaggerated.
I never said it was racism, Foolproof. I just said it showed an arrogance and a “we’re better then they are, the unwashed and unenlightened masses.” It is along the same line as “worthy oriental gentleman” not because of the race, but because of the same idea, that “we’re better than they are.”
Well, they are, better that is. Alright now?
Foolproof
Your irrational think on Scientology
A=A=A
Amazing how you are blinded
Hubbard was a Criminal Con
According to his own scriptures – he is an evil SP
He is a liar and a cheat
A nut job
You haven’t got a clue about Scientology – I bet you’ve never even read a book.
Foolproof, I won’t dignify your last reply with my reply. Oh wait; I just did. Darn, I hate it when I do that. 🙂
Please tell me Disney, and A&E don’t believe this completely ridiculous attack! Surely they are aware scientology is fair gaming you! They are so desperate. And it’s not racial or homophobic! Yes, very strange. I hope everyone is seeing the real truth here.
Aloha Mike,
Is it appropriate to say Chan’s letter seems “Mickey Mouse?”?
Read you regularly but don’t comment much.
Mark in Hawaii. (Come visit).?
Hey Mark so nice to hear from you. Wish I could make it over your way for a visit! One day.
Hey Mark! I was on staff at the Honolulu mission, in ’75. I might be a little bit older than you.
Mike
BPI to all SP’s
It’s time we all expose the condition Scientology and individual Scientologists
I liked those postings you had a week or two ago
Public records tell no lies
Time to wake up and prove Scientology does not improve conditions for people
Scientology harms people
Please report divorces, bankruptcies, foreclosures, credit card shenanigans and all other crimes Scientologists commit daily to keep Scientology working
Its all part of Hubbard’s Tech
That info is kept secret
Members don’t know
With policies such as “no case on post” &
“Take it up in auditing”
Plus members fake happiness
It keeps them trapped
Let lurkers know the truth
Scientologists are a total Liability to society based on facts
If they want to play the game of Scientology
Expose them!
Blow those cockaroaches right out of the water.
Now, I take exception to the idea that Leah and Mike’s show incites violence or illegal acts against the Church.
I consider that it is exactly the opposite.
My wife was almost widowed and she was held prosoner for 6 months and abused.
There was a continuous effort to ensure my death before they were forced to release her. Had I died, they would clearly be Guilty of Second Degree Murder.
Now, when and not if they kill somebody else it will be my fault to a large degree
To a large degree it is Mike and Leah which keep me from taking matters inro my own hands, as there is hope that justice will be done sooner or later.
Of course the idea in the SO was “Keep working and we will clear the planet.” So I worked until I was all but dead.
Since I am supposed to be dead already, I am not concerned with what happens to me. I just dont want to cause any trouble for Mike and Leah.
The Church should actually thank Mike for holding back peoples desire for revenge.
WHILE “IN”, I WAS IN poverty, paying for my next courses, not meeting many interested women. THEN I joined the SO; my economic condition plummetted and I suddenly wasn’t allowed to PURSUE a 2nd Dynamic without first getting married. Talk about an out-gradient requirement; to have any nooky, the first step was a monster…. Certainly wasn’t one Tubby bothered with, AFAICT: Diana was born just 6 months after her parent’s wedding.
Talk about hypocracy.
Once I got “out”, The game changed in favor of prospering and flourishing. I happened along a number of women still enjoying the ’60’s ‘free love’ experiments and the PILL ; LOTS of fun. In the process, found my current girlfriend with whom I’ve enjoyed 26 annual honeymoons. 20 of those since our marriage. Seems Tubby couldn’t have been bothered to romance any of his wives for a fraction of that time. No WONDER he was so adamant that his slaves not fraternize, not have fun doin’ what comes naturally. AND then he goes and says that a woman’s place is to produce and raise kids, and take care of her man’s needs; NOTHING else. I pity his wives. No one should be subjected to that in the modern age. There MIGHT have been reason for such back in the pre-stone age 75,000,000 years ago, Zenu be feared and praised.
Once I shed the false “facts” that were most of his blatherings, my life took off in wonderful directions, not the least being romantic and financial.
The best revenge is living well. I’m doing that in spades, inviting still-ins to join the rest of us who have shed all that BALDERDASH(a/k/a: BS). Life on the outside is FAR better than you’ve been led to believe.
Jere your comment just made my day! I love seeing you happy and enjoying your life. Yes people still in, there’s a beautiful world out here! Family gatherings, financial enjoyment since not giving all your money to the cult, so many nice, cool, and fun people to meet. It’s up to you to change your life now by walking away. Talk about the way to happiness! It really is the exit. ☺
If psychological projection were not involved, it wouldn’t be $cientology. As is all too common in $cieno rants (is the $ symbol being defamed?) too much false equivalency is thrown up to be ingested. Or should that be in-jested?
Chan’s A=A=A says a lot about the ability gained on OTEE EIGHT.
Gee, Mike; you failed to mentioned the biggest shill of them all: David Miscavige. I love all the cute nicknames he’s been given over the years.
I like Dwarf the best.
This is soooooooooooooooo laughable. Shouldn’t he spend his time preparing his next seminar to steal money from the sheep rather then wasting time writing a letter to Disney?
That Ed Parkin is such a creepy person with a weired creepy stare. And…. that “bigot” is getting quite trite.
Ed Parkin will eventually die a lonely, angry, unloved human being. He has accomplisheed nothing in his life but attacks and hatred of non-scientologists. Xenuspeed Ed.
You’re the man Mike! – oops, sorry. My bad, please don’t sue me. I’m not really worth much anyway. All you would get is one nasty cat and a jar of wheat pennies.
peggy,
If you find a 1922 plain (no mint mark) you could by an intensive, the leather bound vols, or maybe a status statue. Depending on the coin wear.
Wow, thanks Jim! You’re the best! Gee, some auditing and possibly a statue. I think I’m good though, but i do appreciate the information 🙂
On a serious note though Jim, I really can identify with some of what those here have gone through, up to and including being knocked to the ground and choked. I don’t mean to make light of anything that anyone here has endured.
I do know that life can be cruel and then suddenly become something so worth living. I’m a basically vanilla person and soooo ok with that 🙂 Live and learn.
Dear Scientology and crim Michael Chan (for being willfully ignorant about your cult)
We are exposing your crimes and will never stop
We are shutting you down for eternity
David Miscavige is going to prison
We will never stop until the government shuts you down for crimes against humanity
We STAND behind Mike Rinder and so does Disney
Oh, and Fuck You OSA
Sincerely
SP,s
Amen to fuck you OSA & STAND ?. You are exist not for long. Not for long.
Yes! We agree with Proud SP
We are SP too
We totally STAND behind you Mike, Leah and every brave soul who STANDS up to the bully cult and exposes their crimes
Thank you
It is working
Please continue!
Can you just see me shaking my head Mike?! Really they are so inside their bubble. They really think that people will take that letter seriously. Plus if A &E had issues with you would you be up for your second Emmy tonight plus a third season? Good luck!
Yes Mike, you have been coming up with some scandalous nicknames for scientologists for a while now and that’s just terrible. Let’s not forget about Quinn ‘The Eskimo’ Taufer, Monique ‘Muffins’ Yingling and David ‘Blackheart’ Miscavige (not sure if that was you or his lawyer that came up with that one). How horrible of you to deride these sensitive individuals. I’m sure that just hearing these taunts takes away untold amounts of ‘case gain’ and when ‘case gain’ goes away that means $$$ to go back into session and get it back (except for Dave).
I’m sure that if you refrained from calling Michael Chan the Chan Man that everyone reading and commenting on your suppressive blog would have a much better opinion of Mr. Chan. It’s probably only because of your ridicule that Mr. Chan’s fabulous seminars aren’t being attended as well as they could be. In the future if you would kindly refer to him as Michael ‘Homo Novis Super OT’ Chan he would probably feel better about himself and not have to write these letters to Disney. So just cut it out or I’m going to start calling you ‘Meanie’ Mike Rinder.
ml,
Ms. ‘NOTs’ B. Haven
PS To make up for your nastiness I think you should buy Mr. Chan a six-pack of IAS approved Butthurt Creme as shown here: https://otviiiisgrrr8.com/2018/06/19/scientology-butthurt-cream-for-pain-levels-of-2-0-or-greater/
Oh yes. What happened to Quinn?
I’ve heard that his fundraising efforts are still continuing but since all of the reliable marks are tapped out, he has been reduced to … making cold calls.
The dreaded cold calls. That’s a tough row to hoe.
Don’t call him Homo Novis! Don’t call him Homo anything. FAR too risky.
I know, it is risky, but a stellar OT like Mr. Chan can easily start conducting Word Clearing seminars so that the public would know that a Homo Novis is: (from the Tech dictionary)
1. Homo man, novis new. (BCR, p. 12) 2. a theta-animated mest body posessed of new and desirable attributes; a mest clear, a good, sane rational mest being about a skyscraper higher than Homo sapiens. (HOM, p. 40) 3. the Second Stage Release
This would mean that Mr. Chan is a ‘New Man’. A new man who has new and desirable attributes with abilities far beyond that of a Homo Sap. This would give Mr. Chan the ability to do new manly things in a new manly way. If he takes this as meaning being a cocksucker, he should go back and clear his words.
Now now look how offensive you’ve been ;-). You called him a man, a homo and a sap in the same sentence. Bwa ha ha ha
Report directly to sec checking as soon as your second mortgage is approved.
🙂 Valerie.
Miss b haven you are cracking me up today!
I’ve been called a bigot.
So what?
Well, I’ve been called a spigot.
Hope you don’t have the drips.
The pressure of my spigot would knock you out.
ROTFLMFAO! Im jealous. Be my wingman.
Anytime!
Careful Dude, don’t faucet!
I haven’t fauceted in ages.
When is Season 3 of “Aftermath” going to be aired? …..CAN’T WAIT !
I am a Television Academy member and The Aftermath got my Emmy vote. Best of luck to Leah and Mike!
I love to hear this! So appreciated when the value of Aftermath is understood. Thanx for sharing this. ☺
I do very much appreciate what they are doing and helping people out of a crippling oppressive cult. I have a special interest too because of some friends who blew and my own experience with Golden Media in Hemet as an outside contractor before I knew better (and the cult was better able to hide it’s crimes much better then).
Really?
All the teachings of LRH about non-whites, women in general, children, the poor, gays, government authorities, etc – these teachings and how they are being applied by Scientologists today, this they are ok with, this they hold up as fact, this they defend as the absolute truth, these teachings are the highest of high standards?
If I have a choice between a world run by Scientology and said world blowing to kingdom come, I opt for kingdom come.
I’d even take smithereens!
Clearly, our culture now is outraged over every little thing. I don’t know how Mr. Chan or anyone could read racism into referring to him as “Chan Man”. It’s hilarious that this is coming from Scientology, which clearly has its share of problems, which are too numerous to name. I cannot help but remember poor ol’ Rodney King, who famously uttered, “Can’t we all just get along?” Indeed!
Yes, “can’t we all just get along?” Simple, plain eloquence. Thanks, Rodney King.
They are grabbing at (self created) straws. Perhaps you should change your name, too. It might offend someone riding a bike or a child on a trike. Maybe bowling a strike, Mike?
Oh, man…can the man, Chan, ban it since it began? I guess that’s why Moxon is moron and not an alternative for parmesan…
It’s all becoming very cheesy.
What kind of cheese are we talking about?
“…check their sense of humor at the door.” This church has never had a sense of humor to check.
I am super pissed about this letter and hope that action is being taken against this church and the tax free money it uses to libel and slander people. I lost my son based on lies about ME and this effing church can get away with that because of its First Amendment privileges but the First Amendment but it definitely should not be allowed to get away with this. DAMN!
Well … Another OT8 … who apparently is also a raving idiot … homophobic and racist jokes ?????? The Chan Man also appears to be Clueless Man … (hey, it’s not like Mike said he was a lousy driver ….)
Joe,
Can you imagine MC’s outrage if he was referred to as: the Clam man???
Yep. scientology MOTHERLOAD of biasness, bigotedness, raceness, alterness, and dispicableness.
Now that’s a lot of nesses!
Where’s FOOLproof when you need him? Surely FOOL would be willing sit down and do a little M7 word clearing with Mr. Chan to clear up his MUs. If he can somehow construe something like ‘Chan Man’ to be homophobic and racist then he surely has gone by a word he hasn’t understood or he has his head up his ass. Or both.
FOOL has already chimed in, with a salad of words I couldn’t be bothered to untangle. There wasn’t so much as a thread I could spot to start the process.
Which salad did you mean? Lettuce? Carrot? My English is usually very precise and to the point, so try some olive oil to soothe the digestion process. 38 years is a long time to be recovering! Why don’t you go into an Org or an Indie center and get a “Green Form” – that’s a nice salad – lots of green!
Well, I suggest you mock up a laboratory and get some dudes with white coats and stethoscopes to analyze all this and come to no conclusion as usual. But no, to save you all that trouble, I quite agree, the phrase is not racist or homophobic.
Fp, I’m afraid on this count you and I (and Mike) are all wrong here. I’m referring to Joe Pendleton’s post up-thread where he cites the Urban Dictionary:
“Chan-Man is a newly popular phrase that means homosexual and is generally used among the homophobic.”
In this modern age of the internet new slang is coming at us faster than we can be expected to assimilate it. I think we get a pass here because of our age though. I’m not sure how old Michael Chan is but according to the Urban Dictionary he has every right to be butt hurt. Pun intended.
However I don’t think his writing letters to Disney will take his butt hurt away. Mr. Chan is a high level OT and as a result should have no reactive mind to restimulate, but apparently this is not the case. Since years and years of extensive auditing and training have not been able to remove the charge he has, I would recommend this:
https://otviiiisgrrr8.com/2018/06/19/scientology-butthurt-cream-for-pain-levels-of-2-0-or-greater/
For me, I’ll take your suggestion and don my white lab coat and take my chances in the real world free of snake oil salesmen and con artists and their extensive “research” into the mind that has produced the results Mr. Chan (and any other ‘OT’) is basking in.
Well, you live and learn. Despite the Urban Dictionary I still can’t see any connection between how “Chan Man” can be used as a homophobic slur.
Me neither. For a supposedly “new” and “popular” slur, the entry has just 25 upvotes (against 5 downvotes) despite being over four years old. I call bs.
Yup, I don’t get it either. As far as I can tell, Mike was just made up a simple rhyme with Mr. Chan’s last name. No insult or name calling intended. I had plenty of taunts about my last name growing up and you just learn to roll with it and sling some shit back. It can all be good fun if you don’t take it too seriously.
So, somewhat along those lines, I have a question for you. According to all of the fliers I’ve seen online about Mr. Chan’s seminars, he is billed as being an OT VIII completion, 3 Ls completion as well as Super Power and Cause Resurgence Rundown completions. I don’t know what his training level is but on the auditing side of things, that is about all he can do. I can tell from your writing that you are well versed in scientology tech. I am curious as to how someone like Mr. Chan could possibly be upset by something like being called ‘Chan Man’? I think we both believe that he may not actually be upset and is just writing the letter because he can or because he is being put up to it by some OSA folks and the butt hurt is feigned. But, back to one’s case, how does an e-meter read if one does not have a case and therefore no charge? I freely admit that I am loaded with MUs but this is something that never made sense to me unless someone decides to keep mocking up some mass that needs to be discharged. Once free of the burdensome mass, why would someone want to mock it up again once their awareness is at that level? That makes no sense to me. A poor metaphor would be like someone being cured of lung cancer, fully aware that the cause of that cancer was caused by smoking and then just deciding to take up smoking again for the hell of it. Addiction aside, it just doesn’t make sense even though people have been know to do this. With scientology, one’s awareness is such that mocking up their reactive mind again once they put so much effort into getting rid of it would just be ludicrous. That makes no sense to me yet some people seem to be wanting more auditing even though they have reached the top of the bridge. It seems inappropriate to call that an addiction, but it appears to be the case. Are the auditors delivering these services being dishonest because a person sitting in front of them holding the cans technically has no case so there is nothing to read on the meter? Or, did the person false attest to their case level and there really is something there reading on the meter?
Well, sorry I missed this missive from the WFMH-funded Laboratory of “We’re desperately trying to find an Achilles Heel in Scientology Tech”! I won’t be as hard-nosed as David Mayo was with me many moons ago now by simply referring me to HCOB Technical Queries (he was quite correct), so I will perhaps clear up some of the great mystery for you, or rather refer you to the correct references.
See HCOBs “TIME TRACK AND ENGRAM RUNNING BY CHAINS” bulletins 1 and 2.Then follow that up (make sure you have the lab funding in place first) with the definition of Clear in the Technical Dictionary. You can short cut all this toing and froing by doing the NED Course. Will save you lots of further Technical Queries. But then you won’t have anything to do in the lab so think about that carefully – you might have to get a real job!
This thread must be getting too long, there was no ‘reply’ link on your last response.
Thanks for your answer. I’m not in search of some Achille’s heel.
Is Chan REALLY a man? I dunno, never met him/her/it.
Now, I hope you are not being anti-transgender here? Surely not!
Stop calling me Shirley!!!
Ha, ha!
Ok Dudette!
Do they honestly think that Disney pays them any attention?
Mike.
I read many past Thursday Funnies where Chan Man is mentioned and am perplexed how he can construe them to be racist or homophobic. The term Chan Man suggests nothing of the sort. Maybe he should report to Cramming and get his M/Us cleared up. 🙂
Although I am not a native speaker, I think they try to construct a racist angle here with the derogatory term “the China man”. The Chan man = the China man.
I only know that term from the Sopranos:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oJCDzdxiJEo
Sooo is Michael Chan complaining because you called him a man or did he just say he was gay?
No way is calling a man a ‘man’ homophobic, so yes- he must be complaining that Mike’s ‘outed’ him as gay. The only reasonable explanation.
A man came up and said, ‘I’m gay.’ I said, ‘I’m a pretty happy person too.’
I say the Chan thingy and the Fool thingy twin up for an over the ramparts assault the Parkin thingy for a once and forever why finding on who is the gayest of em all. You could toss the Quinn thingy in there too as a bait and switch opportunity.
The phenomena of the criminal mind: ‘they accuse others of exactly what they themselves are doing”.
Cowards!
Ironic that LRH, through his writings and lectures, has given us all the tech and policy to properly attack (his favorite word) him and his cherch.
do tell us, do tell us Big Shot Disney execs what they’re sayin about you…..
https://goo.gl/images/d6M8wd
Mike. To think that calling a person man is racist is beyond stupid. Now “captain david miscavige”, i cannot capitalize that is more of a slur than anything. We who fought in a war in SE Asia, were called some names that i cannot repeat here. Oh ,by the way “captain”, i earned every medal i ever got. One by a bullet that ripped my kneecap off. Stop slandering every veteran “captain” and give back your UNEARNED medals. To the people at OSA, grow up. There, another slur by me I guess! Take care “chan man”, i am married to a Filipino so i can attest that calling a person a man us not a slur. In fact most males in the Philippines are called “du dong” by their friends. Guess you can use that Mike as it is popular and not a slur.
The dialog of ‘Full Metal Jacket’ has some excellent reference material for getting the point across.
Back in the day when uniforms were jungle green, we were often called “mangoes.” Green on the outside, yellow on the inside and if you have enough of them they give you the shits. I thought it was kinda cute. Heaven forbid we called non enlisted people “civies” – how rude & offensive is that?!
Charlie… now there’s a term to elicit mixed emotions. If Chan the Man existed back then doing what he does now, I would have called him ‘Target’.
What ever happened to “sticks & stones?”
So. I went back to their childish promos you posted on staturday and, for the life of me, fail to see the terrible umbrage that prompted The Chan man to write. Could it be that the Demented Midget (TM) did some prompting (or dictating, as Dick-taters do) through Mr. Chan? I guess this is the “DIS-” in dissemination. Whatever.
Carry on Mr. Rinder, you are making an impact
Unbelievable, yet believed by anyone familiar with the destructive ways of this organization’s arm, the Office of Special Affairs. They will lie and try to destroy anyone who speaks outs against or attempt to be a whistle blower. This letter is a perfect example of how they use people.
They’re just a mob following orders.
Can someone hand me a tissue?
I have one right here in my pocket.
Here you go dear.
Oh, good. Thanks.
Here you go. Not to worry. The closure of Scientology is soon. To come. Here it is in the door.
I wonder if Chuihoy legally changed his name to Michael? We were very close in Columbus and I couldn’t figure out why, as time went by, he changed his name. Possibly his own deep inner fears that Scientology never handled? I’ve spelled his name wrong, but it’s pronounced “cha- hoi”
This reminds me of a Japanese American scientology staff member that I worked with back in the 70s. He would joke that as a kid his mother would put rice balls in his lunch box and it caused him much embarrassment because none of the Anglo kids had rice balls in their lunch boxes so they would make fun of him. He figured that if he ditched the rice balls no one would notice his Japanese heritage. At least this guy was able to see the humor in this absurdity and laugh at himself. What else are you going to do, write a letter to the school requesting that the kids not harass each other?
I would bet everyone here has a similar story. Sometimes it’s just time to Man up (sorry for the homophobic slur) and get over it. It’s called growing up and being an adult. Chan, you and your OSA colleagues, are a bunch of pussies. Take that.
Mr Chan, aka da Man, doesn’t include the horrific despicable race bashing demeaning slurs in his letter. Why not? Because Ms Newton would laugh at his rediculous letter. Aw, Chany, use your OT powers and give the Rinder Man a wedgy if you don’t like it.
He can use his super powers & he is tempting to do so, do many times a day a zap others by his super rays that he can generate from bring OT8, but see he is such frisking dedicated LRH tech follower that he must abide by LRH tech not to use Fancy-Penry Duper powers. Fuck, I’m upset how I gave 31 years of my life thriving to get to unknown state that is never existed.
My response would be: Dear Mr Chan, I’m terribly sorry. I didn’t know you were gay and that you would take offense to being called “man.”
I can’t believe that even a gay guy with the surname “Chan” would find the nickname “Chan Man” offensive.
It sounds like a high school nickname, a college nickname. Kids calling, “Hey, Chan Man!”. Nothing pejorative, I would think. Affectionate, almost. Grow up Michael Chan! Show a little Scientology “toughness”, why don’t’cha?