Our old friend Terra Cognita is back with some more thoughts…
Scientology, L. Ron Hubbard, and Reefer Madness
LRH was hung up on dope. If drugs weren’t the scourge of his universe they were certainly a bane of his existence.
LRH convinced himself and his followers that drugs were invented by evil psychiatrists quadrillions of years ago in order to control and enslave people. According to him, we’ve been popping pills since the beginning of time, and drugs are a major cause for our dullness. Ironically, he was never able to treat his own dependency and died a lonely and addicted man.
Believing LRH’s theory of the universe for a moment, are drugs really the cause of our lapses of memory—the reason we can’t remember incidents in our past that happened trillions and trillions of years ago? Was all that cannabis I smoked on Janus IV responsible for my occluded memory? No doubt, one or two readers are nodding their heads yes—picturing my addled head enveloped in a haze of smoke.
Terra Math
Just because a person manages to lead a sober and drug-free life, doesn’t mean he’s handed a get-out-of-jail-free card. Remember: according to LRH, we’ve all lived quadrillions of other lives. Which even if we only ingested one drug per lifetime, is one shit-load of pharmaceuticals. Just because I didn’t down a tab of acid back in the sixty’s, doesn’t mean I wasn’t stoned out of mind six lifetimes in a row while working the mines in Sector Six on Antioch II. Remember all the shit the Zips of the Xion System put in our water during the Thousand Year Renaissance, starting back in 16,256,895,256,111 BC? I’ll tell you, dude, that was a one long, hellacious blur.
“Wait…Didn’t I Already Achieve that?”
Unfortunately, LRH’s theories on ridding the spirit and body of the harmful effects of drugs were built on a foundation of dry sand, and year after year, he had to keep coming up with new ways to handle his obsession—and failures.
Per the Scientology Grade Chart, the ability gained on the Purification Rundown is, “Freedom from the restimulative effects of drug residuals and other toxins.” Just so you know, the theory that drug residues—and radiation—are stored in the fatty tissues of our bodies has been debunked many times.
If sitting in a hot, redwood box for a hundred hours didn’t end the “restim,” don’t fret; LRH came up with Phase II: the Scientology Drug Rundown. Its ability gained: “Released from the harmful effect of drugs, medicine, and alcohol.” (What about the enjoyable effects?)
Still feel like getting high at the beach? Enjoy sipping chardonnay with a nice piece of blackened ahi at Chez Bernard’s? Need a spot of Novocain to ease the pain while Dr. Dan installs your new crown? Not to worry! When Phase II didn’t handle a trillion years of uppers and downers, LRH invented a third rundown to once and for all deal with our dependency: Phase III, The OT Drug Rundown—otherwise known as OT IV. The ability gained: “Eradication of the last vestiges of the effects of drugs on the being.” Finally!
But what about all those Discombobulated Spirits Circling my Body?
Sadly, these “courses of treatment” don’t take into account all the stoned-out “body thetans” riding our coattails. Hanging out with these guys for more than a few minutes is the equivalent of hyperventilating inside an Amsterdam coffee shop. And which is why we can’t be truly drug-free until we’ve completed OT7 and eradicated all these pesky freeloaders. Or so we’ve been lead to believe.
Maybe you’ve reached that pinnacle of spiritual salvation but are still tempted by the siren call of candy? Maybe the “primary cause of your amnesia” hasn’t quite been handled? Relax. LRH entrusted David Miscavige with the ultimate solution!
You Heard it Here First!
The ability gained for new OT 9, The Real Truth Revealed, is: “The final, actual, once-and-for-all, I-really-mean-it-this-time, genuine release, freedom from all mental fog, and precise purge of all the effects of drugs on the being since before the beginning of time with a genuine and tangible resurgence of power and native abilities.”
Or for those hardcore users having to take the “alternate” route, click your heels together three times and repeat after me: “I mocked it all up; I mocked it all up; I mocked it all up.”
Alcohol, Orange Sunshine, and the Space/Time Continuum
I’m a little fuzzy on how substances that excite the brain are able to wreak havoc on a thetan, which by LRH’s definition, has “no mass, no wave-length, and no location.” I think it has something to do with postulates, the reactive mind, and of course, the space/time continuum. Then again, I’m probably mired in a big MU.
It’s okay for Scientologists to drink themselves under the table at the local pub but it’s a crime for them to smoke a joint. LRH talked about the differences between drugs and alcohol, but as usual, nothing was based on actual research and modern science.
Despite his admonition that, “Research has demonstrated that the single most destructive element present in our current culture is drugs,” we know for sure the man was not a scientist. If he ever spent time in a laboratory, I must have bypassed those chapters in the Research and Discovery volumes.
And of course, no one could write about Scientology and drugs without mentioning LRH’s position on LSD. Despite completing all the aforementioned rundowns, anyone who’s ever downed Purple Haze is prohibited from joining the Sea Org. I won’t even try to explain the hypocrisy, except to say that “licking the blotter,” is one iron-clad method of avoiding a billion year contract.
Last Words
The truth is, humans like getting buzzed—many of them anyway. Now and then they like looking at the world through slightly altered lenses. People love watching Anthony Bourdain’s, Parts Unknown, and Amazon Prime’s, The Expanse, while high. Responsible adults enjoy good conversation with nice bottles of cabernet at fine restaurants. Nothing says Fourth of July in America like grilled meat and Budweiser.
I’m not advocating drug use. Do humans go overboard? You bet. Do drugs and alcohol ruin lives? All too often. Many drugs are harmful and addictive.
Thirsty? Turn the tap. Tired? Take a nap. Feeling blue? Talk to good therapist.
Are all drugs as toxic and damning as LRH wanted us to believe? Are we to be forever haunted by the piles of pills, potions, and pot we’ve consumed over the millennia? You be the judge.
Still Not Declared,
Terra Cognita
Jere Lull (38 years recovering) says
Lafayette certainly knew the effects if drugs firsthand; shame he probably was on them when he was supposed to be learning stuff like Algebra, Physics, and the scientific method. OH, and personal hygiene, too.
rogerlarsson2012 says
First you drink a bottle of rum in the evening and gets rid of it in the morning with scieno tech.
Golden Era Parachute says
It couldn’t have been said better except if by Johnny Goodboy Tyler.
Terra Cognita says
Me and Johnny…we’re bro’s.
rogerlarsson2012 says
To be in a hole is not to be in an alcho hole. Heber
Cece says
TC Why are you not including LRH references? You know about False Data Stripping right? Please check your dmsmh index and quote what the ‘ol man’ ‘Mans Best Friend’ says. And get a real closure on this.
PeaceMaker says
I also wanted to note, when topics like this come up I can’t help but also think of Scientology as a sort of psychological addiction, like gambling. Scientologists engage in many of the same sort of personally ruinous behaviors, including neglecting their children, as other types of addicts including drug addicts.
Here’s something from the Mayo Clinic that I think has many points that sound quite familiar:
“Signs and symptoms of compulsive gambling (gambling disorder) include:
* Being preoccupied with gambling, such as constantly planning how to get more gambling money
* Needing to gamble with increasing amounts of money to get the same thrill
* Trying to control, cut back or stop gambling, without success
* Feeling restless or irritable when you try to cut down on gambling
* Gambling to escape problems or relieve feelings of helplessness, guilt, anxiety or depression
* Trying to get back lost money by gambling more (chasing losses)
* Lying to family members or others to hide the extent of your gambling
* Jeopardizing or losing important relationships, a job, or school or work opportunities because of gambling
* Resorting to theft or fraud to get gambling money
* Asking others to bail you out of financial trouble because you gambled money away”
Alpaugh says
Speaking of Hubbard and drugs, is it just me or is the story of the kid who ran to get Ronnies prescriptions after the motorcycle accident not f’ing hilarious? They were docked somewhere in the mediterranean and lord Ron sent the young man on an errand to pick up several kinds of medication, one of which was for strong pain killers. The kid left those behind because c’mon, a big being like Ron didn’t need that stuff! When he returned and lrh promptly asked for the mind altering substances and found out the boy didn’t get them…whew, he flew into a rage and called him every name in the book.
unelectedfloofgoofer says
Maybe the kid didn’t quite leave them behind as “lose” them somehow, since painkillers tend to go “Non-E” when people aren’t watching. It’s a big problem at hospitals.
Foolproof says
Terra – WTF was that all about? Now I know I have cast the aspersion on your articles before that they are scraping the bottom of the barrel but I think this time the bottom of the barrel has surfaced in Mike’s old home town in Australia after boring right through planet Earth! What was the point you were trying to make? I don’t even think you know! Oh! Of course – silly me! You had just taken LSD an hour before attempting to put something (any old thing) together on your keyboard!
Jere Lull (38 years recovering) says
Give it up, FOOL. You’re not literate enough to make a salient point, assuming that was your intent.
Foolproof says
Well I must be getting under your craw then as you’ve taken the trouble to delve back into my comment of a fortnight ago to try and find something negating to say. If you think there are any “salient points” being posted here then God help you. I’ve never read such drivel, even for Terra.
petlover1948 says
So, after doing the Purif, & knowing it was hog-wash & doing it to please the “wasband” (the then husband;) I went to a Scient “party.” It was held in a nice hotel with a great pool! (this alone was very unusual; as most of the parties were on the cheap. We paid for being there of course. I meet a very pretty woman in the pool; who was about my age ( maybe a bit younger.) She tells me that she did not have to do the Purif because she was so clean in her past & never did any drugs, etc. I almost spit out the pool water into her face….I think that was the first crack in the “belief” in any truth in the cult/ had never done any drugs; or drank, or had any surgery. I even wrote to LRH trying to get out of the Purif. I got a letter back from “him” saying that he never had found anyone who did not have to do the Purif…then this chick says that!~!!
Foolproof says
Well I don’t know who answered your letter but it certainly wasn’t Hubbard. To wit: from HCOB “The Purification Rundown Replaces the Sweat Program” – “In all cases such as those above, it is a matter for C/S adjudication as to whether or not the person would now do the program.” Perhaps you should read the HCOBs on the subject (and so should whoever answered your letter) before assuming “the worst”, so to speak. Fortunately it seems the C/Ses in the Church are still following HCOBs.
PeaceMaker says
Whenever I see a topic like this, I can help but think of Hubbard’s statements admitting to his own drug use and addiction, and the implication that it might have been key to his “research” and “discoveries.” Such early statements included admiring recommendations for use of certain types of drugs including compounds containing the (now illegal) amphetamine Benzedrine to “help a case run.”
“We will not speculate here on… how I came to rise above the bank.” – Hubbard
See, for instance, quotes at https://scientology101.org/scientology-secrets/l-ron-hubbard/on-drugs/
Ms.P says
Every time they tried to reg me to join the SO my go to quick answer was no I took LSD. And oh my, the dirty looks. Later in the 90’s (I guess they were desperate) I was always asked, “are you sure it was LSD and not something else”, “yes I’m definitely sure”. Thanks LSD from saving me endless hours in a closed room with three or more people trying to reg me into the wee hours!
Cat W. says
I really wish Hubbard had bothered to learn the difference between these 3 things before publishing anything:
1. speculation
2. exploratory research
3. conclusive research
I imagine he’d still lie, but he’d at least be a bit more aware of how much is missing in his “research” claims, which were entirely his own speculation.
Mike Rinder says
True. Wait to read the follow up post tomorrow.
Alcoboy says
I haven’t done this in a while so here goes:
THE ADVENTURES OF BOB, MARY, AND SHAHEEN
(A news announcer is delivering the evening headlines)
ANNOUNCER:….with the escalating crisis in Syria.
In othe news, the local branch of the Church Of Scientology has come under fire in the last few months with a string of incidents involving three people and giving the church a lot of negative publicity. Covering this story is our on the spot investigative reporter, Dan Phillips.
(scene switches to another studio where Dan Phillips is seated in a chair facing the screen. Bob and Mary are seated next to him)
DAN: Thanks, Gina! With me tonight are Bob and Mary Wilson who are former members of the Scientology church here in our area(turns to face Bob and Mary) Bob! Mary! It’s good to have you on the show!
BOB: Thanks, Dan.
DAN: Now you told me earlier that you decided to depart Scientology after an incident at the church in which the police were involved.
MARY: That’s right, Dan. It was a fundraiser intended to extort money from the parishioners to buy a Cabin Cruiser for David Miscavige and we just didn’t agree with that.
DAN: Now, David Miscavige. Isn’t he, like, the religion’s top leader?
BOB: Well, so he likes to fancy himself. I personally think that he became the leader of the church through threats and extortion.
MARY: That’s where this whole money thing comes in! All this man wants is to extract the maximum amount of money out of people that he can!
DAN: Okay, we’ve got a caller on the air(faces camera) okay, go ahead.
CALLER: My name is Shaheen Muhammad…………..
BOB(under his breath): Oh, shit!
MARY(angrily): You’ve got to be kidding me!
SHAHEEN:…..and I’m calling from jail! Bob! Mary! You two are the worst SPs in the history of Scientology! Next to Mike Rinder, you two…….
BOB: Hold on a minute, Shaheen. Why are you back in jail?
SHAHEEN: Yesterday I took the Squirrel Smashers down to the Lansford Psychiatric Hospital and tried to blow it up. And they had the nerve to call the police and have us arrested! Damn wogs! Oh, by the way, when are you going to pay up the $50,000.00 you owe for our Dear Leader’s birthday gift?
MARY: I thought that when you went to jail you only got one phone call!
SHAHEEN: Yeah and this is it! Now about that money……….
BOB: Why in the hell are you calling a TV station? Shouldn’t you be calling your Executive Director and see about getting bailed out?
SHAHEEN: She’s in here with me! Now do you see how the psychs operate?
DAN: Can you please explain your terms, Miss Muhammad? I find this all very confusing.
SHAHEEN: I ain’t explainin’ nothin’ to you! You’re a wog, an SP and a merchant of chaos all wrapped up in one!
DAN: At least explain about buying a Cabin Cruiser for Miscavige.
MARY: Yeah, Shaheen! How does that accomplish the greatest good for the greater number of dynamics?
SHAHEEN: How dare you call our beloved COB ‘Miscavige’! You will refer to him as Supreme Exalted Ruler of the MEST Universe! All hail COB! All hail COB! All hail………
DAN: Well, that’s all we have time for(pushes a button and cuts off Shaheen).
Bob. Mary. Been good having you on the show.
BOB AND MARY: Thank you.
Dave F. says
Alcoboy,
Here is Miscavige’s “cabin cruiser” . . . LOL !
https://c1.staticflickr.com/6/5574/14990280566_6d03a163da_b.jpg
Dave F.
Alcoboy says
In other words, Bob and Mary held on to their fifty grand.
Komodo Dragon says
Isn’t that the “yacht” Tom Thumb used to sail on?
Peabody says
TC:
“… a thetan, which by LRH’s definition, has “no mass, no wave-length, and no location.”
I think that was LRH’s definition, in part, for a static. If it were true for a thetan, you, then you could not be anywhere as required for TR 0.
Oldtimer says
Yeah. Those contradicts you mentioned in your OP, those contradictions are all you need to question, in order to realize that Hubbard was less than honest.
It’s a nice little trick to single out others and show how rotten they are. It makes you out to be better than them and someone who would never behave as they do.
Hubbard told his followers:
1.Never trust a hypnotist, although he was a very skill one. He also used his art on his followers and they never suspected it.
2. Don’t do drugs as they will turn you into an illegal PC and deny you, your eternity. But Hubbard was a druggy.
3.Physchiatry is evil, a system designed and used by SPs since forever. But scientology has phsychology in its DNA.
Pervarication is a trait Hubbard used, he even told you so in the PDCs.
David Bates says
Where do my good old mushrooms come in here. I never hear about them but man did i have a trip or two eating some of them. I am referring to the 60’s, not recently.
tesseract says
Shhh. You never hear about them because … mushrooms don’t talk. 🙂
Alcoboy says
Yes, they do. Just turn on ‘HR Pufnstuf’ and you can see them having a conversation with Jimmy.
Komodo Dragon says
I often watched that show when I was growing up. I was on when I was around 9/10 years old, those characters freaked me out, yet I was drawn to watch it for some bizarre reason.
Alcoboy says
I was around three or four at the time. My attraction to it was, for some odd reason, the Rescue Racer as well as Witchiepoo’s Voom Broom.
Weird, I know.
Terra Cognita says
David Bates: Damn! I forgot to mention magic mushrooms. By bad.
Alcoboy says
Are you old enough to remember ‘The Talking Mushroom Show’ also known as ‘HR Pufnstuf ‘?
Dave F. says
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J0JTfOb_Ni4
Dave F.
I Yawnalot says
Yes indeed, one doesn’t need much insight to see the remarkable hypocrisy shoved down our throats by Hubbard on this gem of wisdom. Drugs… wtf was he on about? As far as I’m concerned it was all part of his control doctrine and a do as I say, not as I do money/power attainment subterfuge. Drugs and Hubbard’s made up universal history of it being an exclusive psyche based conspiracy against us all (sex and pain too) was an angle and generality he splurged upon to introvert the minions and give us a false enemy to blame for our woes – the only solution to this assault upon us was, of course, Scientology. Just tobacco alone and his addiction to it speaks volumes that he didn’t know a damn thing about human health. As an old person now who used to smoke and having to run the gauntlet of medical professionals who, one for one ask,” do you, or have you ever smoked” at the beginning of just about every assessment, for any aliment. Now that’s a scientific approach learned the hard way by body count, certainly nothing like the crap Hubbard pulled out of his ass. Medical people have to exist in the real world for the most part, results demand that.
It actually bores the shit out of me to waste my time analyzing Hubbard’s take on the human body and the medical/psych conspiracies he introduced. An aging body and the associated health issues is something we all have to pay attention to eventually, or not – your body, your call. Do your own homework, don’t rely on charlatans like Hubbard.
The human condition has its problems & Scientology certainly qualifies as part of the problem.
Retired PR Exec says
Terra,,
What a wonderful and insightful essay, written with a wonderful sense of humor!
One question: Did we happen to meet on Telegraph Avenue one day in 1973? I sense you were there—at least in spirt!
Terra Cognita says
Retired PR Exec: Hmmm? ’73? Let’s see. Classes that day ended at three. I was standing at the intersection of Telegraph and Bancroft. Waiting for the light to turn. Was on my way for a slice of pizza. Felt this presence. Hmmm? That was you?
jim says
Terra,
Your response to Retired PR Exec. brought to my memory a poem from The Aberee, Alphia Hart’s publication out of the Phoenix days in 1951:
“theta, theta, see you later
I think I remember this moorland,
the tower on the tip of the tor.
I feel in the distance another existence:
I think I have been here before.
And I think you were sitting beside me
in a fold in the face of the fell.
For time in its work’ll go round in a circle,
And what is befalling befell.
“I have been here before.’ I asserted
In a nook near the neck of the Nile.
I once in a crisis was punished by Isis,
And you smiled—I remember your smile.
I had the same sense of persistence
On the site of the seat of the Sioux:
I heard from the teepee the sound of a sleepy
Pliestocene grunt— it was you.
Time made a promise before it
began to begin to be gone,
This limited gamut brings you again damn it!
How long has this got to go on?
ANONYMOUS
Badafuco says
As a kid raised in Scientology whose parents were in the Sea Org, I ended up taking acid at 15 years old back in 1991 to make sure I could never join the Sea Org.
And while I have been sober from alcohol for 9 years, I do partake in legal medicinal weed.
I’m not here to argue pros and cons, I have cirrhosis and it really benefits me.
Ann Davis says
Glad you are out! ☺
Geoff Levin says
No doubt drugs have ruined people’s lives. More accurately addiction ruins people’s lives. I did drugs in the mid 60s. I’m glad I stopped. I never was addicted.
I was addicted to Scientology, auditing the promise of immortality.
That almost killed me. So go figure.
zemooo says
Logic is not for $cientologists. Lron’s cosmology is bullshit. I can see how anyone can be suckered in with the right sales pitch, but having read just the preface to Dianetics, you should have run away.
jim says
TC,
Nice.. Scientologists, mired in their and Ron’s Ego cannot tap into the Akashic Record. Their body memories are fragmented, unorganized, and mostly false. Retrograde spiritual progress, or worse.
I’ll have Cabernet thank you.
Fox says
Excellent and full of common sense ! I wonder how I’d have reacted to it when I was still in Scientology ! One thing for sure ! I was so glad I took LSD so I could escape the billion years contract as well as all the reges barking at me !
Ms. B. Haven says
For those interested in some ACTUAL drug RESEARCH (I know, that old chestnut) that is happening currently, I would suggest reading Michael Pollan’s ‘How to Change Your Mind: What the New Science of Psychedelics Teaches Us About Consciousness, Dying, Addiction, Depression, and Transcendence’. Or, for a brief synopsis, listen to Pollan being interviewed on Fresh Air with Terry Gross. https://www.npr.org/sections/health-shots/2018/05/15/611225541/reluctant-psychonaut-michael-pollan-embraces-the-new-science-of-psychedelics
Fascinating stuff and certainly not for everyone. The thing that I find interesting is that someone is willing to write a book, do book tours, interviews and speak publicly about his personal experience using Schedule 1 substances and a certain cult can’t even offer up a spokesperson or celebrity or ecclesiastical leader to tell about the infinite wonders and miracles that they offer that are 100% workable 100% of the time on 100% of the population and is actually Mankind’s only hope for salvation. I guess since I don’t understand that, I must have an MU.
Foolproof says
Yep! You do!
Zenster says
I happen to know for a fact that my Body Thetans like to party. I have found their Bong and the remains of a big fat blunt all over my house. And I am OT 9, so how why aren’t my Body Thetans sober? Could it be L Ron Blubbard made a mistake? Oh wait, not possible because he knew everything about everything even though he was one crazy you know what
Todd Cray says
Sing with me, thetans: My thets love to party all the time, party all the time, party all the time
Ann Davis says
A depressing week on the blog. Till now! Hilarious Todd Cray! ?
Ann Davis says
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Ms. B. Haven says
Great article Terra. This got me thinking about the effects of drugs on human ability. I would like to present two examples.
First up. A twenty-something wog going by the name of Carlos Santana playing at a drug addled music festival in 1969 while peaking on acid.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AqZceAQSJvc
Second. An elderly Homo Novis, full Operating Thetan, drug free Founder of the Church of Scientology and the spiritual being who actually invented music on the whole track waaaaaaay back when he was known as Arp Cola. Since he that time when music was created for the very first time the Founder has had countless lifetimes to perfect his craft. Here goes:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZpTUhN__FRk
Maybe it’s just my own personal taste that makes me side with number one here. I wish there were some sort of way to conduct a survey amongst the MU riddled commenters here, but that would hint of science or research and we all know about how that is just an old chestnut that’s not worth pursuing. It’s the results that count.
Gary webb says
I love you Ms. B. Haven . You are my odol.
jim says
Ms. B.
I’ll take option #1, please.
A musician in Power of Source told me of how cringe-worthy the LP was , even before it was sold to scienos. No one I knew who had listened could recommend it. mmmmmmmm
winkle1983 says
I soooo regret clicking on that second link…it’s not enough to hear him speak, but that singing voice is…well, indescribable!
Ms. B. Haven says
I guess I’ll take that as a vote for Carlos over Lafayette (aka Arp Cola).
I’m sorry for your discomfort winkle but sometimes when in the pursuit of real science, suffering is involved. I should have posted a warning to proceed at your own risk, but it’s too late for that now.
sincerely,
Ms. B. Haven (Lab Rat I/C)
Dave F. says
After hearing LRH “singing”, my ears are “SCARRED FOR LIFE” !
Dave F.
Alcoboy says
Your ears are scarred? I just listened to that clip and I’m about to vomit!
Dave F. says
I did that first . . . Then, I realized I couldn’t hear . . . Thankfully, it wasn’t a Porno film !
Dave F.
I Yawnalot says
I just couldn’t help myself. Here’s the first couple of comments from that utube of Hubbard.
igi Cadorna
1 year ago
For such an advanced level Operating Thetan he sure was shit at music.
36
Filbator
Filbator
7 months ago
He sounds like Leonard Nimoy on quaaludes.
13
Ted F
Ted F
1 year ago
R U kidding me? This must be what they play in the hole.
29
Joseph Stalin
Joseph Stalin
11 months ago
His voice sounds funny as hell.
21
dan81dan
dan81dan
7 months ago
DEEP FAT FRIED!
Foolproof says
Getting desperate to find something to attack now are we Miss Chief Lab Rat? However, I must agree with you here, Scientology and/or LRH music is I am afraid really something for the birds. After listening to some of it I thought “well, that’s one LP I won’t buy!” Bet you didn’t expect that eh? Still, you can get your research lab busy on Scientology music for the next 10 years or so to give them something to do it’s “really important!”
Alcoboy says
Right on, Foolproof!
LRH COULD NOT SING!
LRH COULD NOT SING!
LRH COULD NOT SING!
Foolproof says
A-loco-boy, please come in from the kindergarten play area, Mom wants to change your diapers.
Mike Rinder says
Name calling makes you look so good.
Foolproof says
But as for his childish comments that’s ok then? It is about the same level as commenting:
BACK PORCH BRIAN IS AN SP
AND SO IS NO-WYNSKI TOO
AND SO IS TORQUEMADA GEORGE,
SO THERE….
Actually that wasn’t so bad – haha – yes, it is quite cathartic (first definition although could be the other one as well!) I am going to teach that to my grandchildren!
But why would you not admonish the puerile nature of A-loco-boy’s comment or the massive amounts of name calling on this site by others? Ah of course! He is and they are your fawning acolytes!
Mike Rinder says
Yep, you got it.
Foolproof says
Good that you can take a joke Mike, not that I was joking of course – haha!
Alcoboy says
If you had looked more closely, dumbass, you would have seen that I was agreeing with you about LRH’s lack of singing ability.
Sheesh! Maybe you are an OSA plant.
Dave F. says
Perhaps, Foolproof is COB ?
Dave F.
Alcoboy says
Like they used to say on Looney Tunes:
Mmmmmmm……could be.
rosemarietropf says
I think drugs are like guns. It depends on who is using them! Are you a responsible adult who lives in moderation or a whacko who over exaggerates the use of firearms or drugs? Is the solution to prevent all drugs or stop all sales of firearms? There will be a replacement for that soon enough. I’m not wanting to get into a discussion here about guns or drugs….just stating my opinion. Great article! 🙂
Ann Davis says
What she said. ☺
Robert Almblad says
LRH’s body, like ours, is a chemical factory. The statistically WRONG thing to do with that chemical body, if you don’t want to die a miserable and early death are (in their order of importance) 1) Don’t smoke tobacco, 2) healthy diet and exercise, no obesity and 3) take your blood pressure medicine, if prescribed.
LRH died an early and miserable death because his “research” into life with a body was fatally flawed. Smoking gave him a rather self-induced case of pancreatic cancer and a myriad of circulatory problems. This caused him to go more insane and try suicide at the end of his life because he was so miserable.
Did you notice how many Scientologists still smoke because LRH said it increases IQ, is only because you are blowing smoke like a volcano from a zillion years ago…. well, his faulty research caught up with him. He was wrong. Dead wrong. My guess is Miscavige is doing the same: smoking like a chimney.
Eh=Eh says
I will always be grateful for LRH’s position on LSD. That directive alone kept me out of the Sea Org! But apparently it was ok for me to be on staff at the LA Org….go figure! The real reason that those who have taken LSD are not allowed to join the SO is that they are immune from the mind control methods of the C of S, imho. Save a life by giving them a tab of acid! ?
Mary Kahn says
I’ve had an abusive, alcoholic father, a couple of not-so-bad experiences on drugs or alcohol, bad break-ups and soul-crushing losses but the most toxic thing I have ever done was scientology. Too bad I can’t just sweat out the effects of it.
Ex St Louis Member Hiding UTR says
Well said Mary Kahn. Scientology is toxic for every aspect of life. Scientology gives innocent human beings problems they do not want. The side effects are much worse than Psych Drugs. Scientology Sucks!
TrevAnon says
The Purification Rundown can help you with that!
Uhm… wait…. 😉
Bara V says
If you want a big picture of our health today read scientist Didi Perhouse’s “The Ecology of Care: Medicine, Agriculture, Money, and the Quiet Power of Human and Microbial Communities.” Our mistaken path of hypersanitizing has been killing friendly microbes which are actually a part of us. There are many more of them weighing more than ALL of life! Eat that bite that fell on the floor!
mwesten says
“Are we to be forever haunted by the piles of pills, potions, and pot we’ve consumed over the millennia?”
LRH was definitely haunted by his own drug use. In his Affirmations, he blamed various ailments and anxieties on his drug history, particularly his low libido and sexual dysfunction. He obviously wasn’t put off (as those close to him over the years have testified). He simply shifted the blame. By the time he died he was haunted by prehistoric slavers and PTSD-suffering poltergeists.
Considering one is responsible for one’s condition, there’s a whole lot of blame in scientology.
Mac says
How are nicotine and caffeine not drugs? They same to be on board with them. Guess it would be a hard sell to not allow those two…lol. Some of their rules seem bendable…
Ann Davis says
Don’t forget alcohol. One of the many contradictions of scamology.
Alcoboy says
Check out those LRH sanctioned beer and cheese parties that orgs put on for the contracted staff members every Christmas.
Where they get the money for all that beer when they can’t even afford toilet paper is beyond me.
georgemwhite says
I always took a skeptical view of Hubbard’s BS all the way to OT VIII. In the end, it seems that the 15% FSM commission motivated others to paint a brighter picture of what was on the next level. This is what sucked me in. OT VIII was the biggest mind twister I experienced. I blew off OT III because my Catholic education taught me that Hell was a reality which only produced more evil. This was what OT III meant to me. It was easy to accept Xenu as simply a manifestation of Dante’s Hell. Hubbard fit in as one who claimed to have some additional information. On OT VIII on the Freewinds in 1988, one of the primary areas of auditing investigation concerned his complete reversal on the issue of the Genetic Entity. I had to audit this being relative to the DNA tampering from outside of the universe to purify bodies for his return as a politician and his role as anti-Christ. Thank God for the fact that his Bulletin was nonsense based on massive contradictions in his logic. No FSM could paint the brighter picture after that. Hubbard was nothing more than left-handed Theosophy which he alone degraded with his twisted mind. He twisted my mind almost to the point of breaking by installing a completely fallacious system of thought. I never bought into Hubbard as the controller of my destiny and remained on the outside waiting for his wisdom which never came. Thank God for my sixth grade Franciscan teachers who explored better forms of exorcism based on Pope Leo XIII and Saint Dominic.
I Yawnalot says
Thanks George, appreciate your comment on this area. Having some 8s in the family, even though they think I’m the devil reincarnated, the rest of the family, which is huge, (like most US families) are stunned by the very anti social change in them since becoming involved with Scientology. They were pretty whacky before 8 but after it they made twice as many enemies for Scientology by just being their ‘new selves’. They still guzzle the kool aid but never attend their beloved church or take services anymore. What a sick fuck of thing.
Scientologists are the most incredibly stupid, self serving bunch of ao’s to waste perfectly good air. They have no idea of the terrible word of mouth that spreads around concerning what Scientology has done to them, especially by their own families. To continue to love a member of the Church of Scientology is the true test of making it go right, despite all the reasons they present to despise them.
Ms.P says
George – I always enjoy your comments and insights. Can’t wait to read your book. Now that you’re here today, oh oh, here comes Foolproof.
Foolproof says
Haha! No, this time Torquemada George has done it all for me with his rambling drivel above. Per “Hubbard’s writings” he should have spontaneously combusted by now! I wonder why not? Jesus, Hail Mary, Lord Above I hope he doesn’t – then people might believe it! I’d have to eat crow and be tortured by his Inquisition then wouldn’t I? Perhaps his next step after “OTVIII” is just that – self immolation to make me wrong? But no – revise that – if he did that that would make “Hubbard” right! Confusing isn’t it?
georgemwhite says
No, no Foolproof. You have it all wrong. I’m in an offshoot Buddhist Cult now to make it all more confusing for you. You miss the point on the spontaneous combustion. It only happens “if you are not careful” . I am an excellent auditor, the only real OT VIII on the planet. By the way, Hubbard copied the Torquemada stories from Blavatsky almost word for word. Hubbard had no real education, you know. He had to get it from somewhere?
georgemwhite says
After leaving Scientology, I read Saint Augustine’s “City of God” cover to cover three times. I credit the Jesuit education which I received in college for getting me out of Hubbard’s grip. My wife and I visited the Franciscan monasteries near us in Massachusetts where we recovered. We made donations and met with the Nuns. We received instructions on the life of Saint Francis of Assisi and read his works. My favorite was “Ode to the Sun” which healed me in the initial stages of my break with Scientology.
Foolproof says
Well, Amen to that then!
Alex De Valera says
I felt so humiliated every time I was interviewed to join the Sea Org. I had taken LSD in my teens and the thing of course would come up. I found it very irritating that they would schedule an interview to make me join the SO and after decades in Scn they wouldn’t know I was not eligible. Now I think I was lucky to have tried LSD, after all it was less harmful and cheaper than the Cult’s kool-Aid. Thank you so much for your witty, sagacious and well written articles. It is always a pleasure to read you.
Cece says
Alex, should you dare, check the dmsmh index for mary jane.