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Podcast with Jon Atack

December 4, 2022 By Mike Rinder 6 Comments

Jon and I recorded a new episode of his excellent podcast. Enjoy.   … [Read more...]

Filed Under: A Billion Years, Danny Masterson Tagged With: Danny Masterson, irs, Jon Atack

A Billion Years Media Update

November 9, 2022 By Mike Rinder 22 Comments

  Here's an update on recent media I have done. The first 3 are favorites, a new friend and two old ones. Mike Rowe Podcast   Growing Up in Scientology with Aaron Smith-Levin   Jon Atack Podcast   Bryan Callen Podcast   Apologetics Profile with James Walker   Slate This is a pretty extensive Q and A … [Read more...]

Filed Under: A Billion Years Tagged With: Aaron Smith-Levin, Apologetics Podcast, Bryan Callen, Growing Up In Scientology, James Walker, Jon Atack, Mike Rowe, Slate

Scientology Fair Game Podcast All Episodes

September 6, 2021 By Mike Rinder 12 Comments

There is no new podcast this week due to the Labor Day holiday. I thought it worth listing all the diverse list of podcast guests and topics we have done so far. There are more to come. If there are any episodes you have missed, you can find them here with links and give them a listen. It's been quite a ride. It continues. We appreciate all the support of our faithful listeners and those who have sent in questions for the popular "Listener Question" episodes. You can also find all the episodes and the supporting documents for each at fairgamepodcast.com which also includes a … [Read more...]

Filed Under: Podcast Tagged With: Aaron Saidman, AlexGibney, Brian Sheen, Bruce Hines, Chris Shelton, Christie Collbran, Christie Rinder, Claire Headley, Devon Graham Hammonds, Dylan Fallo, Fair Game Podcast, Ford Greene, Geoff Levin, Hana Whitfield, Ian Berg, Jeff Augustine, John Dehlin, john sweeney, Jon Atack, Julian Wain, Karen de la Carriere, Kate Bornstein, Katherine Wain, Leah Remini, Lloyd Evans, Luke Catton, Marc Headley, Mark Bunker, Mark Vicente, Mary Kahn, Mat Pesch, Mike Rinder, Nick Hanna, Paulette Cooper, Phil Jones, Ray jeffrey, Richard Behar, Ron Miscavige, Sarah Edmondson, Stefani Hutchinson, Steve Cannane, Steve Hassan, Tammy Clark, Taylor Holley, Tony Ortega, Valeska Guider, Vicki Marshall, Yashar Ali, Yulanda Williams

Episode 47: The Life and Lies of L. Ron Hubbard Part 2

June 28, 2021 By Mike Rinder 31 Comments

We continue with our deep dive into the life and lies of Hubbard with Jon Atack. Once again, we have quite a lot of documents to include -- but always at the top of the list are Jon's Let's Sell These People A Piece of Blue Sky and Barefaced Messiah by Russell Miller.  I should also note that though we didnt mention it, for those of you interested in what Hubbard did or didnt do in the war, Chris Owen's excellent and thoroughly researched Ron The War Hero: The True Story of L Ron Hubbard's Calamitous Military Career is essential reading. Hubbard told so many lies about his naval … [Read more...]

Filed Under: Podcast Tagged With: Alexis Hollister, Alexis Hubbard, Chris Owen, Dianetics, Doctor's Report on Dianetics, Jon Atack, Leah Remini, Leon Festiger, Mike Rinder, Russell Miller, Scientology Fair Game podcast, Sonya Bianca, Wilhelm Reich

Episode 46: The Life and Lies of L. Ron Hubbard Part 1

June 21, 2021 By Mike Rinder 45 Comments

  Tonight we begin a new series of episodes we are calling "Deep Dives,"  where we take a detailed look at specific areas of scientology. It seemed only appropriate to begin with L. Ron Hubbard -- the "Source" of scientology and "Founder" from which everything flows. There is no way to cover his entire life in a single episode. Or even 5 episodes. We broke this into 2 parts, the first focused on his life and claims up to Dianetics. Even in two episodes we can only touch upon some of the highlights (lowlights?) as there is a great deal to know. If you have not already done so, I … [Read more...]

Filed Under: L Ron Hubbard, Podcast Tagged With: Cyril Vosper, Dianetics, George Washington University, Jon Atack, L. Ron Hubbard, Leah Remini, Mike Rinder, Robert Hare, Russell Miller, Sonya Bianca

The Great Wisdom of Ron

May 29, 2021 By Mike Rinder 58 Comments

Every day, Tony Ortega has a piece of Hubbard wisdom from the same date in history. The one from May 28th struck me. “Now, you’re a registrar and somebody is coming in, or you’re signing up PCs. (All of you have to wear a registrar’s hat at one time or another.) And you’re trying to get somebody to get some auditing, you’re a registrar, see? And there you are one fine day with a yow-yow-yow and a scream-scream-scream standing in front of your face: Seventy-five hours of auditing have been delivered — he feels terrible! He says, ‘Oh, I could kill everybody in the place,’ and he ought to go out … [Read more...]

Filed Under: L Ron Hubbard Tagged With: Jon Atack, L. Ron Hubbard, Mike Rinder, Phil Wearne, podcast, refunds, Tony Ortega, Victorian Inquiry

Thought Reform and Scientology

April 21, 2021 By Mike Rinder 41 Comments

  On one of the recent Fair Game Podcast, Chris Shelton recommended Robert Jay Lifton's book Thought Reform and the Psychology of Totalism . Then Mockingbird posted a comment concerning this and I thought it important to include it as a post, as he summarizes the eight criteria for Thought Reform isolated by the author. I should note, there are many excellent articles at Mockingbird's Nest blog. Here is his comment in full. I have highlighted the 8 criteria. Mike Rinder recently pointed out something that most people miss, even experts. He pointed out that the E meter is used … [Read more...]

Filed Under: Special Feature Tagged With: brainwashing, Chris Shelton, Jon Atack, L. Ron Hubbard, Mockingbird, Robert Jay Lifton, Scientology, Thought Reform

Episode 27: Jon Atack — OG Scientology Whistleblower

February 8, 2021 By Mike Rinder 31 Comments

This week Leah and I welcome the insightful and wonderfully well-informed Jon Atack. (If anyone doesn't know the term OG, it comes from "Original Gangster" and means "someone who's incredibly exceptional, authentic, or “old-school”" and Jon certainly fills the bill). Way back in the 1980's, Jon was a pioneer whistleblower about scientology abuses. He wrote a seminal book "Let's Sell These People a Piece of Blue Sky" which was first published in 1990. He has since written two other books on the subject of scientology. Jon was a "public" Scientologist for nine years, until 1983, when … [Read more...]

Filed Under: Podcast Tagged With: Fair Game Podcast, Ira Chaleff, Jon Atack, Leah Remini, Mike Rinder, Russell Miller

Recent Podcasts with Jon Atack

December 20, 2020 By Mike Rinder 3 Comments

I have done a couple of podcasts with the wonderfully informed Jon Atack. The second of them went live yesterday and Tony Ortega included it on his site. I am including it here also, as well as the earlier one, as I think the discussions are illuminating. Jon is such a wealth of information. And has such good takes on all things scientology. Leah and I are planning on talking with Jon on our fair Game Podcast soon. That should be a treat. This is the most recent episode of Jon's podcast. I recommend you subscribe to his YouTube channel too:   This is the one we did about 6 … [Read more...]

Filed Under: Podcast Tagged With: Jon Atack, Mike Rinder, podcast, Tony Ortega

Spiritualist Movements

January 27, 2020 By Mike Rinder 36 Comments

  This is a rather lengthy dissertation by long term commenter George M. White, who was one of the first OT VIII completions (that is him above on the Freewinds at graduation). I am publishing it as he sent it to me. He mentioned this when I saw him at a party recently and I offered to put it on the blog. It makes reference to a document called "Student Briefing" and I have included that for your reference at the end of his piece.   Spiritualist Movements, Hypnotism, and the Natural Science Model used in the development of Scientology ©by George M. White, 2020 George M. … [Read more...]

Filed Under: L Ron Hubbard, OT Tagged With: Aleister Crowley, Annie Besant, Battlefield Earth, Birthday Game, Buddha, Charles Leadbeater, Fifth Invaders, Freewinds, George M. White, Hugh Urban, Jesus Christ, Jon Atack, L. Ron Hubbard, Madame Blavatsky, Marcab, Mettreya, OT Levels, OT VIII, Scientology, Volney Matheson, Xenu

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Unbreakable Miss Lovely - Tony Ortega
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Inside Scientology - Janet Reitman
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